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If the point is to avoid violence, people in St. Louis and Chicago should be seeking asylum in Central or South America. Most Central and South American countries have a lower homicide rate than those cities in the US.
It's economic opportunity that brings them here. I don't blame them, but escaping violence makes a better talking point.
It's economic opportunity that brings them here. I don't blame them, but escaping violence makes a better talking point.
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And republicans accused Obama of having an open border the same they are doing to Biden. I’m not defending either just pointing out the hypocrisy of both sides. Personally I would rather take the $ we are spending on a fence and invest in technology and more border patrol agents (like a lot more).
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I agree. Border security is important. But with a wall we are talking 9th century technology for a 21st century problem. If we are going to be serious about people crossing the border don't worry about a wall and do something more current about it.
Build processing centers every couple of hundred miles. Have them manned with drones covering their areas and either beef up the border patrol or use the national guard. It doesn't even have to be an emergency call up. Just rotate units in the border states or even beyond when they have to do training. Someone is trying to get through, catch them and take them to a modern processing center. They get a week of being treated like a human being with hot showers and decent meals. If they are truly seeking asylum help them. If they are trying to emigrate for financial reasons, have lawyers who can assist them with their next move and if that move is back to a 3rd world country so be it. If we catch people who have ulterior motives for coming in either prosecute them or ship them back to wherever they came from.
I'm fine with people emigrating here legally and I get the desperation for people who try to sneak in. But dropping 50 billion on a wall that a shovel or ladder can beat won't solve it.
Build processing centers every couple of hundred miles. Have them manned with drones covering their areas and either beef up the border patrol or use the national guard. It doesn't even have to be an emergency call up. Just rotate units in the border states or even beyond when they have to do training. Someone is trying to get through, catch them and take them to a modern processing center. They get a week of being treated like a human being with hot showers and decent meals. If they are truly seeking asylum help them. If they are trying to emigrate for financial reasons, have lawyers who can assist them with their next move and if that move is back to a 3rd world country so be it. If we catch people who have ulterior motives for coming in either prosecute them or ship them back to wherever they came from.
I'm fine with people emigrating here legally and I get the desperation for people who try to sneak in. But dropping 50 billion on a wall that a shovel or ladder can beat won't solve it.
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I could be wrong but we’ve spent like $15B on 500 miles of fence (remember we were told you could build a 20’ beautiful concrete wall the entire length for like $6B and Mexico would pay for it but I digress).
So if my math is right and the border is rounded to 2000 miles that means the entire fence would cost about $60B which is probably light because most of what has been built is the low hanging fruit. So take that $60B earn 5% and that’s $3B/yr. Assume total cost of a Border Patrol officer is $200,000/yr including benefits and you can hire 15,000 officers. Along a 2,000 mile border that’s 1 agent every block basically.
I realize the first $15B is sunk but w the $ we are talking I was just trying to use round #s to show what Human Resources at the border vs 9th century technology (as you smartly described).
So if my math is right and the border is rounded to 2000 miles that means the entire fence would cost about $60B which is probably light because most of what has been built is the low hanging fruit. So take that $60B earn 5% and that’s $3B/yr. Assume total cost of a Border Patrol officer is $200,000/yr including benefits and you can hire 15,000 officers. Along a 2,000 mile border that’s 1 agent every block basically.
I realize the first $15B is sunk but w the $ we are talking I was just trying to use round #s to show what Human Resources at the border vs 9th century technology (as you smartly described).
Because nationwide homicide rates in comparison to the worst-city homicide rates has anything at all to do with the personal asylum stories of immigrants.
Sure, if someone is dumb enough to show up at the border and their argument for coming is overall homicide rates instead of a personal story of violence that is not able to be corrected by the corrupt authorities then, of course, send them back. But, I meet a lot of immigrants and hear a lot of stories. None of them that I have met have actually been stupid enough to think like that.
Sure, if someone is dumb enough to show up at the border and their argument for coming is overall homicide rates instead of a personal story of violence that is not able to be corrected by the corrupt authorities then, of course, send them back. But, I meet a lot of immigrants and hear a lot of stories. None of them that I have met have actually been stupid enough to think like that.
