OKC looking at Caron Butler

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For comparison's sake, here are some other shot charts from this season.
Danny Granger (34.1% catch-and-shoot 3's):
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Thabo Sefolosha (34.1% catch-and-shoot 3's):
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Derek Fisher (38.7% catch-and-shoot 3's):
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Jeremy Lamb (37.7% catch-and-shoot 3's):
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Butler is better this year at catch-and-shoot 3's than Granger, Sefolosha, Fisher, or Lamb. Also, it's a tiny sample size (6-14), but Butler is better at the left corner three than all of these guys. Sefolosha has just been awful this year shooting the ball, and his defense worsened (very evident in last night's game). I could see Butler getting some of Thabo's minutes, especially if he can defend.
 
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Caron Butler has agreed to join the Thunder but won't clear waivers until Saturday evening. If he clears waivers, he could join OKC on Sun
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This could be a huge addition if Brooks doesn't waste Butler on the bench. I'm hoping that Butler will get 15-20 minutes per game and 3-5 3PT attempts per game.

Butler is in very good company (see chart below) as far as a catch-and-shoot (C&S) 3-point specialist. He ranks 25th in the NBA in C&S 3FG% among players that shoot at least 3.2 per game and play at least 24 minutes per game.
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At 39.6% C&S 3PT%, he immediately becomes the best C&S 3PT shooter on the Thunder!
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Hope he comes to OKC but he's likely heading to Miami.... Wonder why none of these guys ever head to OKC.....
I'm also a bit surprised that Butler didn't go to Miami, especially since he has played with D-Wade and the Heat. However, he would be sitting behind Ray Allen off of the bench, and the Heat have a lot of good C&S 3PT shooters:
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James Jones is healthy, plays the same position as Butler, and never sees the court because of the other guys in Spoelstra's rotation. Butler might have been scared off by that.
 
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Thunder fans, management about to get a good look at the Thunder without Thabo/Perk. Should be interesting. I definitely think our D has struggled without Perk. Our one win since AS break was against a Bobcat game that has surrendered over 60 to Lebron and Melo this year.
 

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Thunder fans, management about to get a good look at the Thunder without Thabo/Perk. Should be interesting. I definitely think our D has struggled without Perk. Our one win since AS break was against a Bobcat game that has surrendered over 60 to Lebron and Melo this year.
The Thunder also beat Memphis on Friday (Feb. 28). Against the Grizzlies, Adams and Thabeet combined for 9 points, 9 rebounds, and 3 blocks in 42 minutes. Adams had a game best +/- (+15) and Marc Gasol had a game worst +/- (-20). Looks good to me.

I wouldn't read in too much about LeBron's 60 points vs. the Bobcats. Charlotte was on a brutal road trip having to play three brutal road games (@ San Antonio, @ OKC, and @ Miami) over 4 days. Meanwhile, Miami has played only 4 games (all at home) since Feb. 20 (their win @ OKC). So, while LeBron's performance was spectacular, it was coming against a team on one of the most brutal scheduling quirks imaginable.

Replacing Perk's defense will be tough, but it's a good time for Adams to get some quality experience. If he plays like he did against Memphis, then we'll be fine. I'm excited to see Caron Butler step into Thabo's role. I'm hoping that Brooks lets Butler start, but we'll see.
 
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I forgot about the Grizzlies, that was a solid win.
Yeah, and it probably saves Perk's strength for the playoffs, he just needs to be in shape. I'm excited to see Butler tonight too.
 

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The Thunder also beat Memphis on Friday (Feb. 28). Against the Grizzlies, Adams and Thabeet combined for 9 points, 9 rebounds, and 3 blocks in 42 minutes. Adams had a game best +/- (+15) and Marc Gasol had a game worst +/- (-20). Looks good to me.

I wouldn't read in too much about LeBron's 60 points vs. the Bobcats. Charlotte was on a brutal road trip having to play three brutal road games (@ San Antonio, @ OKC, and @ Miami) over 4 days. Meanwhile, Miami has played only 4 games (all at home) since Feb. 20 (their win @ OKC). So, while LeBron's performance was spectacular, it was coming against a team on one of the most brutal scheduling quirks imaginable.

Replacing Perk's defense will be tough, but it's a good time for Adams to get some quality experience. If he plays like he did against Memphis, then we'll be fine. I'm excited to see Caron Butler step into Thabo's role. I'm hoping that Brooks lets Butler start, but we'll see.
Yeah but KD only had 28 vs Charlotte so clearly the MVP needs to be given to LeBron over KD!!!
 

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Yeah but KD only had 28 vs Charlotte so clearly the MVP needs to be given to LeBron over KD!!!
Yeah, LeBron obviously wants it badly. Really, though, the Finals MVP matters more as far as legacy goes. Steve Nash has as many regular season MVPs as Kobe and Shaq combined (2), but nobody is going to put Nash over Kobe or Shaq on an all time ranking list.

KD will win at least 1 regular season MVP award over his career, and he'll probably retire with at least 3. But, to be considered one of the all-time greats, he needs multiple Finals MVPs.

The Bill Russell Finals MVP began in 1969. Since then, 10 players have won multiple Finals MVP awards. With the exception of Willis Reed*, the other 9 could easily be considered the best players since 1969 (over Moses Malone, Karl Malone, Robinson, Barkley, Iverson, KG, Dr. J., etc).

6-time Finals MVP: Jordan
3-time Finals MVP: Magic, Shaq, Duncan
2-time Finals MVP: Willis Reed, Kareem, Bird, Olajuwon, Kobe, LeBron

* On an all-time list, I would rank Moses (1 Finals MVP, 3 season MVP) over Reed (2 Finals MVP, 1 season MVP).

EDIT: tl;dr -- the point of this post is that no one will care who wins the regular season MVP if either LeBron or KD wins the Finals MVP in June.
 

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Butler's defense has been atrocious so far. His is completely lost on pick-and-rolls. At this point, it can't be overstated how important Sefolosha and Perkins are for pick-and-roll defense.
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Butler's defense has been atrocious so far. His is completely lost on pick-and-rolls. At this point, it can't be overstated how important Sefolosha and Perkins are for pick-and-roll defense.
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My thoughts exactly. The D has been really bad the last two games. This one was only close because of okc's offensive ability. Which in itself was lax at times today.
 

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My thoughts exactly. The D has been really bad the last two games. This one was only close because of okc's offensive ability. Which in itself was lax at times today.
I think they are getting bored. OKC, Miami, and Indiana have all struggled where they shouldn't recently. I just think there comes a time of the season where the playoffs couldn't be here soon enough.
 
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The Thunder just need some time to mesh.
They have a new guy in Butler, Westbrook coming back, Reggie playing reduced minutes, Perk out, Thabo out, essentially we just overhauled the starters except for KD and Serge... so everyone is adjusting. It's unfortunate we aren't healthy right now. Russ will continue to increase minutes, and we won't get Thabo and Perk back until the end of the year, so it will be interesting to see how quickly we can re-mesh with those guys. It's a lot of roster shaking not to have some major bumps. Unfortunately, we may see some more bumps come playoffs when Perk/Thabo come back. Hopefully the starters are familiar enough with each other that they can get rolling quickly, and the second team will be the same with the exception of Butler.

Also, people bashing Brooks considering the above and that we still have close to the best record I the league is absurd. Some of my OU buddies were calling for him to be fired after the Lakers loss in LA... lol. Typical I guess for those guys.
 
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