OK State proves it's better fit for SEC

[More Cowbell]

I'm not so sure it's going to burst anytime soon. I'd expect the streaming giants are about to step in and throw even bigger money around.

That's a likely scenario and I hope whoever is the new B12 commish really focuses on that.

I do think there is a limit to how rich the SEC/B10 can get without the other 60% of the country. If they truly separate into their own playoff structure, the interest level in their teams is going to plummet overall. Fans really only care about (watch) what affects their favorite team, and there's nowhere that is more true than college sports.

 

[LS1 Z28]

And most of the conference will still be glorified MAC.

I hate to tell you this, but most of the country will view the Big 12 in a similar light after OU & Texas leave. We could change that if we started winning national championships, but none of the remaining teams have even made the playoffs. So I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[NinjaPoke]

A couple of playoff appearances would definitely make us more attractive to other conferences. We're going to have to do something, because the SEC & B1G are about to leave everyone else behind from a revenue standpoint.

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What if the ACC, nBigXII, and PAC-12 join forces? Perhaps we would be able to compete with the B1G and SEC.

 

[RxCowboy]

And/or the big schools in the B1G will start trying to take a bigger piece of the pie and schools like Indiana and Maryland will have to start taking cuts to stay in the conference.

Ohio State gonna go all Tejas.

 

[okpoke2003]

https://twitter.com/espnpr/status/1534999038667501569?s=21&t=pTKCpDsrECjtwbogKwPD2w

 

[CowboyHoopsPride]

And/or the big schools in the B1G will start trying to take a bigger piece of the pie and schools like Indiana and Maryland will have to start taking cuts to stay in the conference.

Hmm….feel Like we’ve seen that movie before. Can’t quite remember the title.

 

[Dispassionate Outsider]

Get to the playoffs Win games.

At that point, maybe ESPN puts up enough money for the SEC to bring in OSU, but there would have to be a partner school keep it even.

Mizzou was invited to even out A&M and due to its AAU membership. They do not fit in the SEC, but contraction isn’t an option.

 

[LS1 Z28]

What if the ACC, nBigXII, and PAC-12 join forces? Perhaps we would be able to compete with the B1G and SEC.

It's tough to say for sure. Giving the TV networks quality non-conference football games would help, but what they really want are football bluebloods that will bring lots of viewers every weekend. I would love to steal Clemson and Florida State from the ACC, but they're locked into their TV contract for over a decade.

It would also help if the streaming companies like Amazon and Netflix decided to get involved with collegiate athletics. That would make the bids more competitive.

Everything is fluid. I don't think anyone really knows what's going to happen. We need to do the best we can to position ourselves to be at the highest level of competition whenever the dust settles though.

 

[LS1 Z28]

I bet they're kicking themselves for not televising the first two games on their primary networks, because they were even better than the last one.

 

[More Cowbell]

Get to the playoffs Win games.

At that point, maybe ESPN puts up enough money for the SEC to bring in OSU

The tough part is that we HAVE won games. In the Gundy era, at a clip behind only a couple of SEC teams. That doesn't make our fanbase markedly bigger or OSU in the same national narrative as the second tier SEC teams. Gundy's statement after the Fiesta Bowl win was exactly what needs to happen and was more than a little strategic. We have a logo. We really need to market this program nationally.

 

[RxCowboy]

https://twitter.com/espnpr/status/1534999038667501569?s=21&t=pTKCpDsrECjtwbogKwPD2w

I have to admit, it was fun watching baseball and softball at the same time. On alternate nights I had one on the laptop on a TV tray in front of me and one on the TV.

 

[CowboyHoopsPride]

I have to admit, it was fun watching baseball and softball at the same time. On alternate nights I had one on the laptop on a TV tray in front of me and one on the TV.

I did too until about the last three innings of each game.

 

[RxCowboy]

I did too until about the last three innings of each game.

Have to admit, those last games were a gut punch. Arkansas was a good team. Good lord I hated losing to Texass.

 

[Dispassionate Outsider]

Get to the playoffs Win games.

At that point, maybe ESPN puts up enough money for the SEC to bring in OSU

The tough part is that we HAVE won games. In the Gundy era, at a clip behind only a couple of SEC teams. That doesn't make our fanbase markedly bigger or OSU in the same national narrative as the second tier SEC teams. Gundy's statement after the Fiesta Bowl win was exactly what needs to happen and was more than a little strategic. We have a logo. We really need to market this program nationally.

10-win seasons and bowl game wins just don’t have the same impact as playoff wins.

 

[Chairman of the Board]

10-win seasons and bowl game wins just don’t have the same impact as playoff wins.

And conference championships. The next 5 years for OSU football are huge. Need to breakthrough at least once, IMO. The good thing is Gundy gets it, I haven't always thought that, but you can tell he's not satisfied with 9-10 win seasons.

 

[CowboyHoopsPride]

And conference championships. The next 5 years for OSU football are huge. Need to breakthrough at least once, IMO. The good thing is Gundy gets it, I haven't always thought that, but you can tell he's not satisfied with 9-10 win seasons.

I truly believe what you’re seeing is more of a result in leadership change than him not being satisfied with those type seasons.

 

[LS1 Z28]

The tough part is that we HAVE won games. In the Gundy era, at a clip behind only a couple of SEC teams. That doesn't make our fanbase markedly bigger or OSU in the same national narrative as the second tier SEC teams. Gundy's statement after the Fiesta Bowl win was exactly what needs to happen and was more than a little strategic. We have a logo. We really need to market this program nationally.

It all comes down to TV numbers. OSU's TV numbers are the best of the remaining teams in the Big 12. Our ratings last year would've ranked 2nd in the Pac 12 behind only USC, and 3rd in the ACC behind only Clemson & Florida State. Winning games consistently has made us a valued commodity on the free market.

The question now is whether or not the other conferences will decide to expand before we get locked into another TV deal. If I were the administration at OSU, I would be very careful to exhaust all of our options before signing away our TV rights to a conference what would distribute significantly less revenue than others.

 

[Chairman of the Board]

I truly believe what you’re seeing is more of a result in leadership change than him not being satisfied with those type seasons.

Could be. I feel like he started this before Weiberg took over, but it would explain the change. No matter the source, its encouraging.

 

[osucowboy79]

I truly believe what you’re seeing is more of a result in leadership change than him not being satisfied with those type seasons.

Indeed. It's no secret that Holder and Gundy weren't always on the same page.

 

[Boomer.....]

I have to admit, it was fun watching baseball and softball at the same time. On alternate nights I had one on the laptop on a TV tray in front of me and one on the TV.

Yes it is!