Majorie Taylor Greene Thread

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IMO, you need to decide which issues are most important to you and then make a determination if a specific political party is more aligned to that issue. Don’t worry about a couple of crazies.

One thing is true is both Republicans and Democrats now have Congressmen/women that are very extreme. The topic of the thread, Greene, is a loon. Same with her Republican friend from the state to her south, Gaetz. Democrats have AOC, Omar, and who may be the worst Cori Bush.

Sure the Republicans look bad skirting around not to offend Trump, and Dem leadership has been slow to stop some of the outlandish statements from the squad ...but I don’t think these extremists are defining the agenda for either party. Yes, I think it is concern, but I don’t think a couple of wack jobs is a reason to leave a political party.
What exactly are the central principles of the party?
 
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What exactly are the central principles of the party?
Good question.
I think the core tenants of both parties are the same. They just try to go about it vastly different. Both parties have goals of making life better for all. Republicans try to get that way with the power of individualism and equality. Democrats try to get that way with the power of collectivism and equity.
 
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One party just literally voted out their #3 because she refused to support the extremists view in the party
True - fair point. I didn’t like that either. That is worrisome that decisions were made with party unity winning over moral courage.

And the other party had someone with extreme views come in 2nd in the 2016 primary. Which is also worrisome and concerning.
 

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True - fair point. I didn’t like that either. That is worrisome that decisions were made with party unity winning over moral courage.

And the other party had someone with extreme views come in 2nd in the 2016 primary. Which is also worrisome and concerning.
The Republicans had someone with extreme views come in 1st and 2nd in 2016.

Hyperbole is fun.
 

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Hyperbole? So you don’t think Greene and Sanders hold views that are on the extreme side of each of their respective parties?
1. There were two major candidates for the Democratic nomination in 2016. Which one would you have preferred win the nomination?

2. Considering what has been happening in the Republican Party the past few months, it's questionable if Greene is that far from their ideological center.
 
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1. There were two major candidates for the Democratic nomination in 2016. Which one would you have preferred win the nomination?

2. Considering what has been happening in the Republican Party the past few months, it's questionable if Greene is that far from their ideological center.
1) Neither. Sanders is downright scary to me ideologically -- I do not favor anything remotely close to socialism.
But if I had to choose -- Hillary. Bill Clinton may had his moral failures, but I thought he was a great President. Certainly you will admit that Bill is way more toward the center than Obama or how Biden has governed in his first 100 days.

2) I don't know how you think Greene is towards the center of the Republican Party. Now that is hyperbole. I am guessing if there was a poll of who the most far-right national current politicians there is --- she is easily top 3.
 
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Here is a ranking of 437 US House Reps ranked from most bi-partisan to least. Not at all surprising that those in the bottom 50 (ie least bi-partisan and most ideological) are more in the media than those who reach across the aisle.

The bottom 25 includes:
Republicans: Jim Jordan, Steve Scalise, Mo Brooks, Steve King, and Liz Cheney
Democrats: All members of the squad - AOC, Talib, Omar, Presley, and Adam Schiff

The most bi-partisan 25 includes very few in the media often:
Democrats: Hentry Cueller
Republicans: Elise Stefanik (plus OK’s Tom Cole)

Interesting that the Republicans just replaced Liz Cheney in her leadership position with someone who ranks as one of the most bi-partisan congressperson.
https://www.thelugarcenter.org/assets/htmldocuments/116 BPI House.pdf
 

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MADDOWBLOG

With Holocaust rhetoric, Greene creates new test for McCarthy
The question isn't whether Greene will keep engaging in ridiculous antics; the question is what Kevin McCarthy is prepared to do about it.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., pauses while speaking during a news conference outside the Capitol on Feb. 5, 2021.Al Drago / Bloomberg via Getty Images

May 24, 2021, 7:00 AM CDT
By Steve Benen
There's no point in questioning whether Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) will keep engaging in ridiculous antics. The latest controversy surrounding the unhinged congresswoman is simply the latest in a lengthy series. The better question is what House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) intends to do about it.
In an appearance last week on the podcast "The Water Cooler with David Brody," Greene lamented to a nodding Brody about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's decision to maintain a mask mandate on the House floor because of concerns many GOP members may not be vaccinated. "This woman is mentally ill," Greene said of Pelosi, D-Calif. "You know, we can look back in a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star and they were definitely treated like second-class citizens — so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany, and this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about."
 

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With Holocaust rhetoric, Greene creates new test for McCarthy
The question isn't whether Greene will keep engaging in ridiculous antics; the question is what Kevin McCarthy is prepared to do about it.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., pauses while speaking during a news conference outside the Capitol on Feb. 5, 2021.Al Drago / Bloomberg via Getty Images

May 24, 2021, 7:00 AM CDT
By Steve Benen
There's no point in questioning whether Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) will keep engaging in ridiculous antics. The latest controversy surrounding the unhinged congresswoman is simply the latest in a lengthy series. The better question is what House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) intends to do about it.
In an appearance last week on the podcast "The Water Cooler with David Brody," Greene lamented to a nodding Brody about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's decision to maintain a mask mandate on the House floor because of concerns many GOP members may not be vaccinated. "This woman is mentally ill," Greene said of Pelosi, D-Calif. "You know, we can look back in a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star and they were definitely treated like second-class citizens — so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany, and this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about."
Maddowblog. Impeccable.
 
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still doesn't change the Greene quote, regardless of who requotes it
I am not going to do the legwork, but there have easily been a couple.dozen Hitler, Holocaust, Nazi references lobbed from both sides the last year or so, most notably by Squad members. It is the fad insult right now, most being a stretch and most being ignorant, like this one.
 
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I’ll do the legwork.
I went the middle ground and condemned all of it, stating it happens on both sides, and this is your reply? This is not legwork, it is partisan cherry picking and you know it. You are better than this and makes me question why you offered it at all.
 

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I went the middle ground and condemned all of it, stating it happens on both sides, and this is your reply? This is not legwork, it is partisan cherry picking and you know it. You are better than this and makes me question why you offered it at all.
You resorted to a whataboutism, then admitted you wouldn’t back it up with citation. If you’re not willing to do a little legwork, you forfeit the right to complain when the folks on the other side of the issue do theirs. Your argument was admittedly lazy.

In my opinion, this wasn’t partisan on my part. I’m picking on the MAGA extremists, not Republicans in general. I voted for way more Republican candidates than Democrats in 2020, and was practically a straight ticket Republican voter before that.
 
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You resorted to a whataboutism, then admitted you wouldn’t back it up with citation. If you’re not willing to do a little legwork, you forfeit the right to complain when the folks on the other side of the issue do theirs. Your argument was admittedly lazy.

In my opinion, this wasn’t partisan on my part. I’m picking on the MAGA extremists, not Republicans in general. I voted for way more Republican candidates than Democrats in 2020, and was practically a straight ticket Republican voter before that.
Whataboutism? Pathetic. You know the likes of Omar, AOC, Tliab all have said things and did you speak up then? Let me be lazy again and make a presumption without wasting my time to prove the obvious....no you did not. Your reply to my OP was 100% partisan. Only someone living under a rock would need a citation for their abhorrent comments and I am not interested in citing what you, as a purported follower of the political arena the past few years, already know. You are just making an ignorant partisan argument...to argue. I cannot wait until the squad pops off again and you either ignore it or defend it with...wait for it...a whataboutism.

Btw, loved the "I have black/gay/trans friends" type argument in an attempt to validate your position. Where is your citation of how you voted? Just supposed to take your word for it? Lazy.

Wtf I keep taking you off mute is beyond me.
 

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Whataboutism? Pathetic. You know the likes of Omar, AOC, Tliab all have said things and did you speak up then? Let me be lazy again and make a presumption without wasting my time to prove the obvious....no you did not. Your reply to my OP was 100% partisan. Only someone living under a rock would need a citation for their abhorrent comments and I am not interested in citing what you, as a purported follower of the political arena the past few years, already know. You are just making an ignorant partisan argument...to argue. I cannot wait until the squad pops off again and you either ignore it or defend it with...wait for it...a whataboutism.

Btw, loved the "I have black/gay/trans friends" type argument in an attempt to validate your position. Where is your citation of how you voted? Just supposed to take your word for it? Lazy.

Wtf I keep taking you off mute is beyond me.
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