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Good question.
I think the core tenants of both parties are the same. They just try to go about it vastly different. Both parties have goals of making life better for all. Republicans try to get that way with the power of individualism and equality. Democrats try to get that way with the power of collectivism and equity.
I think the core tenants of both parties are the same. They just try to go about it vastly different. Both parties have goals of making life better for all. Republicans try to get that way with the power of individualism and equality. Democrats try to get that way with the power of collectivism and equity.
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1) Neither. Sanders is downright scary to me ideologically -- I do not favor anything remotely close to socialism.
But if I had to choose -- Hillary. Bill Clinton may had his moral failures, but I thought he was a great President. Certainly you will admit that Bill is way more toward the center than Obama or how Biden has governed in his first 100 days.
2) I don't know how you think Greene is towards the center of the Republican Party. Now that is hyperbole. I am guessing if there was a poll of who the most far-right national current politicians there is --- she is easily top 3.
But if I had to choose -- Hillary. Bill Clinton may had his moral failures, but I thought he was a great President. Certainly you will admit that Bill is way more toward the center than Obama or how Biden has governed in his first 100 days.
2) I don't know how you think Greene is towards the center of the Republican Party. Now that is hyperbole. I am guessing if there was a poll of who the most far-right national current politicians there is --- she is easily top 3.
Here is a ranking of 437 US House Reps ranked from most bi-partisan to least. Not at all surprising that those in the bottom 50 (ie least bi-partisan and most ideological) are more in the media than those who reach across the aisle.
The bottom 25 includes:
Republicans: Jim Jordan, Steve Scalise, Mo Brooks, Steve King, and Liz Cheney
Democrats: All members of the squad - AOC, Talib, Omar, Presley, and Adam Schiff
The most bi-partisan 25 includes very few in the media often:
Democrats: Hentry Cueller
Republicans: Elise Stefanik (plus OK’s Tom Cole)
Interesting that the Republicans just replaced Liz Cheney in her leadership position with someone who ranks as one of the most bi-partisan congressperson.
https://www.thelugarcenter.org/assets/htmldocuments/116 BPI House.pdf
The bottom 25 includes:
Republicans: Jim Jordan, Steve Scalise, Mo Brooks, Steve King, and Liz Cheney
Democrats: All members of the squad - AOC, Talib, Omar, Presley, and Adam Schiff
The most bi-partisan 25 includes very few in the media often:
Democrats: Hentry Cueller
Republicans: Elise Stefanik (plus OK’s Tom Cole)
Interesting that the Republicans just replaced Liz Cheney in her leadership position with someone who ranks as one of the most bi-partisan congressperson.
https://www.thelugarcenter.org/assets/htmldocuments/116 BPI House.pdf
MADDOWBLOG
With Holocaust rhetoric, Greene creates new test for McCarthy
The question isn't whether Greene will keep engaging in ridiculous antics; the question is what Kevin McCarthy is prepared to do about it.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., pauses while speaking during a news conference outside the Capitol on Feb. 5, 2021.Al Drago / Bloomberg via Getty Images
May 24, 2021, 7:00 AM CDT
By Steve Benen
There's no point in questioning whether Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) will keep engaging in ridiculous antics. The latest controversy surrounding the unhinged congresswoman is simply the latest in a lengthy series. The better question is what House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) intends to do about it.
In an appearance last week on the podcast "The Water Cooler with David Brody," Greene lamented to a nodding Brody about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's decision to maintain a mask mandate on the House floor because of concerns many GOP members may not be vaccinated. "This woman is mentally ill," Greene said of Pelosi, D-Calif. "You know, we can look back in a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star and they were definitely treated like second-class citizens — so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany, and this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about."
MADDOWBLOG
With Holocaust rhetoric, Greene creates new test for McCarthy
The question isn't whether Greene will keep engaging in ridiculous antics; the question is what Kevin McCarthy is prepared to do about it.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., pauses while speaking during a news conference outside the Capitol on Feb. 5, 2021.Al Drago / Bloomberg via Getty Images
May 24, 2021, 7:00 AM CDT
By Steve Benen
There's no point in questioning whether Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) will keep engaging in ridiculous antics. The latest controversy surrounding the unhinged congresswoman is simply the latest in a lengthy series. The better question is what House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) intends to do about it.
With Holocaust rhetoric, Greene creates new test for McCarthy
The question isn't whether Greene will keep engaging in ridiculous antics; the question is what Kevin McCarthy is prepared to do about it.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., pauses while speaking during a news conference outside the Capitol on Feb. 5, 2021.Al Drago / Bloomberg via Getty Images
May 24, 2021, 7:00 AM CDT
By Steve Benen
There's no point in questioning whether Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) will keep engaging in ridiculous antics. The latest controversy surrounding the unhinged congresswoman is simply the latest in a lengthy series. The better question is what House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) intends to do about it.
In an appearance last week on the podcast "The Water Cooler with David Brody," Greene lamented to a nodding Brody about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's decision to maintain a mask mandate on the House floor because of concerns many GOP members may not be vaccinated. "This woman is mentally ill," Greene said of Pelosi, D-Calif. "You know, we can look back in a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star and they were definitely treated like second-class citizens — so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany, and this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about."
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You resorted to a whataboutism, then admitted you wouldn’t back it up with citation. If you’re not willing to do a little legwork, you forfeit the right to complain when the folks on the other side of the issue do theirs. Your argument was admittedly lazy.
In my opinion, this wasn’t partisan on my part. I’m picking on the MAGA extremists, not Republicans in general. I voted for way more Republican candidates than Democrats in 2020, and was practically a straight ticket Republican voter before that.
In my opinion, this wasn’t partisan on my part. I’m picking on the MAGA extremists, not Republicans in general. I voted for way more Republican candidates than Democrats in 2020, and was practically a straight ticket Republican voter before that.
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Whataboutism? Pathetic. You know the likes of Omar, AOC, Tliab all have said things and did you speak up then? Let me be lazy again and make a presumption without wasting my time to prove the obvious....no you did not. Your reply to my OP was 100% partisan. Only someone living under a rock would need a citation for their abhorrent comments and I am not interested in citing what you, as a purported follower of the political arena the past few years, already know. You are just making an ignorant partisan argument...to argue. I cannot wait until the squad pops off again and you either ignore it or defend it with...wait for it...a whataboutism.
Btw, loved the "I have black/gay/trans friends" type argument in an attempt to validate your position. Where is your citation of how you voted? Just supposed to take your word for it? Lazy.
Wtf I keep taking you off mute is beyond me.
Btw, loved the "I have black/gay/trans friends" type argument in an attempt to validate your position. Where is your citation of how you voted? Just supposed to take your word for it? Lazy.
Wtf I keep taking you off mute is beyond me.