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So why is the letter now public? I haven’t read any stories about this yet.
Because it is coming out for the first time ever in their Aug 15th 2022 edition of The New Yorker and they published the letter today for the first time ever.

The letter was published by the New Yorker on Monday

And because he came to a deal with the Sec of Def and CIA chief Robert Gates NOT to leave

After consulting with current and former national security officials, including former Secretary of Defense and CIA chief Robert Gates, he decided to stay on, later telling his staff that he would instead "just fight [Trump] from the inside.”

Milley also issued a public apology for the Lafayette Square episode.

“I should not have been there,” he said in a commencement address at the National Defense University on June 11 — 10 days after the incident. “My presence in that moment, and in that environment, created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics.”
 
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Because it is coming out for the first time ever in their Aug 15th 2022 edition of The New Yorker and they published the letter today for the first time ever.

The letter was published by the New Yorker on Monday

And because he came to a deal with the Sec of Def and CIA chief Robert Gates NOT to leave

After consulting with current and former national security officials, including former Secretary of Defense and CIA chief Robert Gates, he decided to stay on, later telling his staff that he would instead "just fight [Trump] from the inside.”

Milley also issued a public apology for the Lafayette Square episode.

“I should not have been there,” he said in a commencement address at the National Defense University on June 11 — 10 days after the incident. “My presence in that moment, and in that environment, created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics.”
What I’m trying to understand is how the letter became public. It sounds like people who are writing a book got it. Doesn’t say how or when. Interesting.
 

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What I’m trying to understand is how the letter became public. It sounds like people who are writing a book got it. Doesn’t say how or when. Interesting.
not one person has come forward today to Deny or Dispute ANY of this.....NOT even Trump himself..and there are alot of names listed here that have been floating around public all day without denials or pushback


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/08/trump-praised-german-generals-loyalty-to-hitler.html

Former President Donald Trump complained to then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly that American generals were not as loyal to him as he believed German generals had been to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, according to a new book about Trump’s tenure in office.
“You f---ing generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?” Trump asked Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, according to an excerpt published online Monday in the New Yorkerof the book,“The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021.”

“Which generals?” Kelly replied.
“The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded, according to the excerpt of the book, which was co-authored by New York Times White House reporter Peter Baker and New Yorker staff writer Susan Glasser. Doubleday is publishing the book in September.
“You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said, according to the book excerpt.
Trump then said, “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the excerpt said.
Glasser and Baker described how Trump soured on Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, after Milley, then-Attorney General William Barr and Defense Secretary Mark Esper resisted his demands to have the military respond to protests outside the White House in response to the murder by police officers of George Floyd.


“You are all losers! You are all f---ing losers!” Trump told them, according to the excerpt.
“Turning to Milley, Trump said, ‘Can’t you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?’” Glasser and Baker reported.
Trump, in an emailed statement, said Milley and other generals referenced in the book were “very untalented people and once I realized it, I did not rely on them, I relied on the real generals and admirals within the system.”
Trump’s statement went on to list a series of accomplishments he took responsibility for, including keeping the U.S. “out of wars.”
Milley later deeply regretted joining Trump and the president’s aides in a walk through Lafayette Square, after that area outside the White House was cleared of demonstrators, according to the book excerpt. Trump was photographed holding a Bible outside a church nearby.
“It is my belief that you were doing great and irreparable harm to my country,” Milley wrote Trump afterward in a resignation letter he never actually sent, the excerpt said.
“General Milley wrote that Mr. Trump did not honor those who had fought against fascism and the Nazis during World War II,” it said.
“It’s now obvious to me that you don’t understand that world order,” Milley wrote in the letter. “You don’t understand what the war was all about. In fact, you subscribe to many of the principles that we fought against. And I cannot be a party to that.”
Trump while president also reportedly showed distaste for the idea of injured armed services members, including those in wheelchairs and missing limbs, participating in a huge military parade that he wanted in Washington on Independence Day.



“Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade,” Trump told Kelly, whose own son was killed in combat in Afghanistan, according to the excerpt.
“This doesn’t look good for me.”
That parade never came to fruition after retired generals such as his then-Defense Secretary James Mattis and Air Force General Paul Selva, the then-vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, strongly resisted the idea, which would have cost millions of dollars and damaged Washington’s streets.
“I’d rather swallow acid,” Mattis said at the time, according to the excerpt.
And when Kelly sarcastically told Trump that Selva was going to organize the parade, the president, not realizing it was a joke, asked Selva what he thought of that plan.
“I didn’t grow up in the United States, I actually grew up in Portugal,” Selva said, according to the excerpt. “Portugal was a dictatorship — and parades were about showing the people who had the guns. And in this country, we don’t do that.”

“It’s what dictators do,” Selva said.
 
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not one person has come forward today to Deny or Dispute ANY of this.....NOT even Trump himself..and there are alot of names listed here that have been floating around public all day without denials or pushback


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/08/trump-praised-german-generals-loyalty-to-hitler.html

Former President Donald Trump complained to then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly that American generals were not as loyal to him as he believed German generals had been to Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, according to a new book about Trump’s tenure in office.
“You f---ing generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?” Trump asked Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, according to an excerpt published online Monday in the New Yorkerof the book,“The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021.”

“Which generals?” Kelly replied.
“The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded, according to the excerpt of the book, which was co-authored by New York Times White House reporter Peter Baker and New Yorker staff writer Susan Glasser. Doubleday is publishing the book in September.
“You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said, according to the book excerpt.
Trump then said, “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the excerpt said.
Glasser and Baker described how Trump soured on Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, after Milley, then-Attorney General William Barr and Defense Secretary Mark Esper resisted his demands to have the military respond to protests outside the White House in response to the murder by police officers of George Floyd.


“You are all losers! You are all f---ing losers!” Trump told them, according to the excerpt.
“Turning to Milley, Trump said, ‘Can’t you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?’” Glasser and Baker reported.
Trump, in an emailed statement, said Milley and other generals referenced in the book were “very untalented people and once I realized it, I did not rely on them, I relied on the real generals and admirals within the system.”
Trump’s statement went on to list a series of accomplishments he took responsibility for, including keeping the U.S. “out of wars.”
Milley later deeply regretted joining Trump and the president’s aides in a walk through Lafayette Square, after that area outside the White House was cleared of demonstrators, according to the book excerpt. Trump was photographed holding a Bible outside a church nearby.
“It is my belief that you were doing great and irreparable harm to my country,” Milley wrote Trump afterward in a resignation letter he never actually sent, the excerpt said.
“General Milley wrote that Mr. Trump did not honor those who had fought against fascism and the Nazis during World War II,” it said.
“It’s now obvious to me that you don’t understand that world order,” Milley wrote in the letter. “You don’t understand what the war was all about. In fact, you subscribe to many of the principles that we fought against. And I cannot be a party to that.”
Trump while president also reportedly showed distaste for the idea of injured armed services members, including those in wheelchairs and missing limbs, participating in a huge military parade that he wanted in Washington on Independence Day.



“Look, I don’t want any wounded guys in the parade,” Trump told Kelly, whose own son was killed in combat in Afghanistan, according to the excerpt.
“This doesn’t look good for me.”
That parade never came to fruition after retired generals such as his then-Defense Secretary James Mattis and Air Force General Paul Selva, the then-vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, strongly resisted the idea, which would have cost millions of dollars and damaged Washington’s streets.
“I’d rather swallow acid,” Mattis said at the time, according to the excerpt.
And when Kelly sarcastically told Trump that Selva was going to organize the parade, the president, not realizing it was a joke, asked Selva what he thought of that plan.
“I didn’t grow up in the United States, I actually grew up in Portugal,” Selva said, according to the excerpt. “Portugal was a dictatorship — and parades were about showing the people who had the guns. And in this country, we don’t do that.”

“It’s what dictators do,” Selva said.
I’m not doubting that Milley wrote it. I just find it strange that the articles don’t include anything about how and when it was released.
 

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Uh, yeah, there’s a reason this was unprecedented. So was insurrection and commandeering classified documents that belong to the National Archives.
 
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