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RxCowboy

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Snowflake? I’m the one that is wanting to watch football in the fall. You’re the one wanting to read a book in your safe space and talk about feelings.
I’m the one that wants economic recovery. You’re the one that wants to hide under your bed until mommy (Kamala Harris) says it’s safe to come out.
I want to watch football this fall too. If reading a book in my safe space and talking about feelings is what it takes to get there, then I'm willing to do it. But you're all "don't tell me what to do" and here we are on the verge of not having football, because of people like you.

Snowflakes who couldn't stand staying home for 3 weeks and couldn't be bothered to wear a mask in public.

I want economic recovery, too. I don't think we're going to have it if we don't get a handle on the pandemic, just like we're not going to have a football season. But, congrats, you're getting what you're asking for.
 

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Play: uT, 0U, OSU, WVU, ISU, KSU
Don't Play: BU, TCU, KU, Tech
Two recent bottom feeders, a recent conf champ game participant and school that didn’t require COVID tests to come back to campus. No real pattern I guess. Anyone else see one?
Wait, which team didn't require tests?

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It says a lot about your character that you are simply unwilling to stand by your convictions. Instead you create an asinine “challenge” to try to deflect from the argument.

If you honestly believe what you are writing, you would be so disgusted with university for playing that you would not be able to watch. Regardless of what anyone else does...

Sorry... I will take the medical advice as it pertains to risk from a infectious disease specialist at Duke over an internet troll without a backbone.
I will take the medical advise from the infectious disease specialist at Duke, and the epidemiologist friend I have at Purdue, the infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists who are advising the Big 10 and Pac 12, the COVID-19 researchers I know personally (I'm working on the Regeneron study).

That's just it, as far as the pandemic is concerned, I looked at all the data and listen to all valid opinions. Medical science is messy and inexact. Studies contradict each other and experts contradict each other. if you're prudent, you don't seek out voices that only agree with your preconceived notions, like you've done with the Duke guy, but you examine all the data and all the opinions. That's what I've done and I've formed my own.

But your way is working so well. Keep it up.
 

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Yes, they were aggressive and did it right, but it is a lot easier to control the spread when you live on a somewhat remote island with roughly the same population as Oklahoma.
Yes, "shelter in place" is easier on an island. Or is it? I mean, staying at home is staying at home, right? Wearing a mask is wearing a mask, right?
 

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Yes, "shelter in place" is easier on an island. Or is it? I mean, staying at home is staying at home, right? Wearing a mask is wearing a mask, right?
You don't have the cross contamination you do here with people traveling to other states. Their borders are essentially closed to outsiders.
 
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I want to watch football this fall too. If reading a book in my safe space and talking about feelings is what it takes to get there, then I'm willing to do it. But you're all "don't tell me what to do" and here we are on the verge of not having football, because of people like you.

Snowflakes who couldn't stand staying home for 3 weeks and couldn't be bothered to wear a mask in public.

I want economic recovery, too. I don't think we're going to have it if we don't get a handle on the pandemic, just like we're not going to have a football season. But, congrats, you're getting what you're asking for.
You mean the snowflakes that listened to Dr. Fauci in March?

"There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes on March 8, 2020.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._reason_to_be_walking_around_with_a_mask.html

The time to get a handle on the pandemic was in Q1. The libs were busy pushing an impeachment agenda, the republicans were fighting it. To top it off our expert on infectious disease was telling everyone not to wear a mask....
 

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Because people don't cross contaminate from other states if they stay home, right?
As you know people get stir crazy staying at home and want to get out. I've personally know of a half dozen people who have "vacationed" to Colorado within the past month. They think it's all isolation and mountain air, but they're still going to restaurants, hotels, etc. My point was that when there is no outside contamination, it makes it easier to contain.
 
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You mean the snowflakes that listened to Dr. Fauci in March?

"There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes on March 8, 2020.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._reason_to_be_walking_around_with_a_mask.html

The time to get a handle on the pandemic was in Q1. The libs were busy pushing an impeachment agenda, the republicans were fighting it. To top it off our expert on infectious disease was telling everyone not to wear a mask....
FYI: You are arguing with someone who think a 20-year in good health who died in a motorcycle accident should have his cause of death listed as coronavirus because he tested positive.
 

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Well one thing is certain now. One side or the other is going to be able to say I told you so. And I'll freely admit I don't know which side that will be....and so will anybody else who is being honest and objective.

I also think it's interesting that the areas of the country that are postponing the season are the same areas of the country that have been more aggressive about shutting things down, masks and other thing covid related. And the ones playing the season are the same areas that have been more relaxed or not shut down at all.

This will certainly give us a control group for comparing virus impact vs financial impact. Since that seems to be the biggest things the two sides are pointing to as their reason for what they believe.
 
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I don’t see how that will work and college football doesn’t have preseason games.
The main reason the Power 5 can make decisions on their own is their TV rights deals are not owned by the NCAA. Each conference owns their own rights and they are separate deals.

The ACC has their own network. The ACC Network is owned by ESPN.
The SEC also has their own network with ESPN.
UT has the Longhorn Network with ESPN.
The Big 12 rights are held jointly by ESPN and Fox Sports and each school gets to own one game.

Big 10 Network is with Fox Sports. Pac-12 Network is actually owned by the conference.

So ESPN was a big winner.
Great point. ESPN is a huge winner if they can get some college football in the fall and the spring.
 

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FYI: You are arguing with someone who think a 20-year in good health who died in a motorcycle accident should have his cause of death listed as coronavirus because he tested positive.
What this statement shows is that you lack understanding of how death certificates are completed. I chuckle every time you bring it up as some big "gotcha" when it shows your lack of understanding more than his.

Let me ask you this since you seem to believe that the doctor makes a determination of A cause of death. Which isn't the way it works but you won't listen so we will pretend you are right. My first autopsy that I watched as a medical student was a truck driver that was driving in the middle of the night, single-vehicle accident went off the side of the road and the top of the truck, and his head, was taken off. He also had an acute myocardial infarction just then.

So, what is "his cause of death?" Is it severe brain trauma or is it myocardial infarction?
 
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What this statement shows is that you lack understanding of how death certificates are completed. I chuckle every time you bring it up as some big "gotcha" when it shows your lack of understanding more than his.

Let me ask you this since you seem to believe that the doctor makes a determination of A cause of death. Which isn't the way it works but you won't listen so we will pretend you are right. My first autopsy that I watched as a medical student was a truck driver that was driving in the middle of the night, single-vehicle accident went off the side of the road and the top of the truck, and his head, was taken off. He also had an acute myocardial infarction just then.

So, what is "his cause of death?" Is it severe brain trauma or is it myocardial infarction?
Was the issue that Covid 19 was listed on the death certificate as a contributing factor or that the death was listed among the Covid 19 fatalities? I would think it was the latter.
 
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What this statement shows is that you lack understanding of how death certificates are completed. I chuckle every time you bring it up as some big "gotcha" when it shows your lack of understanding more than his.

Let me ask you this since you seem to believe that the doctor makes a determination of A cause of death. Which isn't the way it works but you won't listen so we will pretend you are right. My first autopsy that I watched as a medical student was a truck driver that was driving in the middle of the night, single-vehicle accident went off the side of the road and the top of the truck, and his head, was taken off. He also had an acute myocardial infarction just then.

So, what is "his cause of death?" Is it severe brain trauma or is it myocardial infarction?
I am not a doctor but I believe that having your head taken off has a higher mortality rate than an AMI even if it’s STEMI.... ;)
 
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Happy the Big 12 is still forging ahead. Maybe we can get some of those Big 10 players to transfer our way. Love Spencer Sanders but wouldn't Justin Fields be nice to have on the roster this fall.
 
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What this statement shows is that you lack understanding of how death certificates are completed. I chuckle every time you bring it up as some big "gotcha" when it shows your lack of understanding more than his.

Let me ask you this since you seem to believe that the doctor makes a determination of A cause of death. Which isn't the way it works but you won't listen so we will pretend you are right. My first autopsy that I watched as a medical student was a truck driver that was driving in the middle of the night, single-vehicle accident went off the side of the road and the top of the truck, and his head, was taken off. He also had an acute myocardial infarction just then.

So, what is "his cause of death?" Is it severe brain trauma or is it myocardial infarction?
You are arguing against the Florida medical team which realized the error and took it off the COVID death count. I chuckle every time people feel they know more than local experts.
 
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I dont understand why there is such a push to play in the Fall instead of the Spring like the Big 10 and Pac 12 are doing?
Will things be better by spring? The reason I ask is because I saw a health expert say that it could be late 2021 before a vaccine is widely distributed and things really get back to normal.

Does the benefit of moving the season back outweigh the dangers of playing two seasons in one year? I saw a health expert say that the lack of offseason recovery time could put the players at risk for long term concerns like CTE. It's hard for me to envision this happening.

I think that there's a good chance that the Big 10 and Pac 12 never play in the spring.