Elon Musk offers to buy Twitter

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Thank you for making the origin of your sentiment clear.
Oh lord, this guy. Just because I don't worship all billionaires. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates I have no qualms with. In the past few years Elon has pump and dumped Bitcoin and Dogecoin (the latter a complete scam of a cryptocoin), paid $250k for a sexual harassment lawsuit then made crass jokes about it on Twitter, praised China, CHINA, for having workers who live at factories and work 16 hour days. I see billionaires as humans with money, how do you see them?
 

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https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1537780840238927872


https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1537845889829584900


https://twitter.com/Jezebel/status/1537831946511781889
My position is....

Twitter can run their business how they want when it comes to what can be said or not said on their platform

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Elon Musk can run his business he wants when it comes to what can be said or not said by his employees.

Neither is a government entity. Neither is prohibited from engaging in "censorship" by the First Amendment.

There are a few notable exceptions that don't appear to apply to Musk's firing....like you can't fire for attempts to unionize, etc.
 
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Oh lord, this guy. Just because I don't worship all billionaires. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates I have no qualms with. In the past few years Elon has pump and dumped Bitcoin and Dogecoin (the latter a complete scam of a cryptocoin), paid $250k for a sexual harassment lawsuit then made crass jokes about it on Twitter, praised China, CHINA, for having workers who live at factories and work 16 hour days. I see billionaires as humans with money, how do you see them?
Maybe you should read up on Bill Gates behavior at Microsoft sometime. And of course theirs the whole Epstein thing.

Warren is the man though.
 
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My position is....

Twitter can run their business how they want when it comes to what can be said or not said on their platform

AND

Elon Musk can run his business he wants when it comes to what can be said or not said by his employees.

Neither is a government entity. Neither is prohibited from engaging in "censorship" by the First Amendment.

There are a few notable exceptions that don't appear to apply to Musk's firing....like you can't fire for attempts to unionize, etc.
Particularly when the companies in question rely so heavily on the public persona of Elon Musk. By working at these companies you are basically signing up to be apart of his cult of personality.
 

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My position is....

Twitter can run their business how they want when it comes to what can be said or not said on their platform

AND

Elon Musk can run his business he wants when it comes to what can be said or not said by his employees.

Neither is a government entity. Neither is prohibited from engaging in "censorship" by the First Amendment.

There are a few notable exceptions that don't appear to apply to Musk's firing....like you can't fire for attempts to unionize, etc.
I don't disagree with any of that, but there is a difference between legal right and right thing to do. It's legal to burn a flag or run around yelling racist words, but it's not the right thing to do. It's legal for Twitter to censor. If it's censorship based on political ideology, I don't think it's the right thing to do.

As far as bad mouthing the CEO that's a gray area too. Again not legally a problem, but ethically I think employees should be able to voice dissatisfaction with policies and upper management decisions without retribution. Making personal attacks is kind of asking for an exit interview.
 

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I don't disagree with any of that, but there is a difference between legal right and right thing to do. It's legal to burn a flag or run around yelling racist words, but it's not the right thing to do. It's legal for Twitter to censor. If it's censorship based on political ideology, I don't think it's the right thing to do.

As far as bad mouthing the CEO that's a gray area too. Again not legally a problem, but ethically I think employees should be able to voice dissatisfaction with policies and upper management decisions without retribution. Making personal attacks is kind of asking for an exit interview.
I'm not particularly interested in judging people based upon my perception/opinion on what the "right thing to do" is. The one area where I tend to do that is on public policy questions in government....first I look at "can my government legally do that", and then I look at "should" they do that.

If I think a private organization is doing something they have every legal right to do, but "shouldn't" do because it conflicts with my morals/ethics, I'll simply not give them my business or associate with them if I feel strongly enough about it.
 

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It's almost like he wanted to just mess with twitter to prove a point (and possibly manipulate stocks).....
I think he bit off more than he could chew and found a convenient but legitimate out. And yeah the other thing you said.

It's funny how a bunch of people were really cheering this when it happened but are ignoring this right now. Wonder why that is...
 
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Don’t know Musk’s full intentions, but Twitter previously stated that less than 5% of accounts were bots, fake, or spam. Musk informed Twitter early in the process that he wanted to know the Daily Average User (DAU) numbers were real users.

Providing DAU, customers, or subscribers is an extremely common metric for companies to share during M&A. In fact, I can’t imagine an instance in which that metric would not be shared. For Twitter, DAU is absolutely vital because revenue is almost solely comprised from advertising. And advertising is always about the reach of the message generated from eyeballs. If Twitter is over representing the number of real accounts on a daily basis using the platform, ad dollars may severely contract.

The question should be —- why hasn’t Twitter released that data? Is it because they don’t know actual answer or they know the answer may significantly affect the stock price?

Of course, maybe Musk pulled out of the deal due to need to spend money on child support payments.
 
Mar 11, 2006
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His own mom calling him out on Twitter

https://twitter.com/mayemusk/status/1545502807956103168?t=fIESwCviH3dwfA6MfRv15g&s=19
“Calling him out”? Interesting interpretation. I think she was pointing out we shouldn’t have wars and a women (like her) wouldn’t go to war because they care about their children (ie Elon).