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Maybe for your fellow Americans? Do we not care enough for our neighbors to take a shot and be sure instead of to assume we are fine ?

Do it for the people in your church, for your kids or grandkids teachers and custodians at school, for their bus drivers, for your mail man, for the guy who watches your house when your out of town, for the cashier at Lowes or Wal Mart, for the future OSU Cowboy who is currently starting on your local High School football team
One of the outcomes of keeping people divided like our political and media industrial complex does. is there is less of this desire to do things like this for our neighbors, etc..
 

Binman4OSU

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One of the outcomes of keeping people divided like our political and media industrial complex does. is there is less of this desire to do things like this for our neighbors, etc..
I think it is past time we as American's told our political and industrial complex manipulators on all sides to sit down and shut up.

I found out 20 years ago I am happier, and can accomplish sooo much more by being involved in my community through Rotatory, Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Church Youth Groups, Monthly meetings for a local cause etc. I also learned by doing this. The flapping gums on TV and the people we elect to Washington have no idea and are completely out of touch with We The People
 

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So townie opening his mouth to disparage all conservatives with a bunch of straw arguments again I bet. Glad I have him on ignore. He doesn't listen to reason or truth. Just somebody's account to anonymously scream his hatred of white Christians.

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It's a false narrative, those he disparages are neither Christian nor represent all of who happen to be born of a lighter melanin. The problem with modern racism is that those who practice it don't realize that it reaches all races and all segments. Like MLK said, we need to be judged based on the content of our character not the color of our skin. If we would ALL do that it would be a much better world...next time you walk into a restaurant, bar or other place where races are mixed, challenge yourself to not see color and only welcome all of God's creation...If anything good can come of the past year of racial injustice and strife...for all things holy, make it a point to be a part of the solution and to further inclusion of all types and not exclusion of some in favor of others. Start to see only character and not color. We all will be better once we do that. I am in the process of challenging myself to walk in the other mans shoes...I think that's a good thing if we would all do it and realize we are all people whom God loves and wants relationship with.
 

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Maybe for your fellow Americans? Do we not care enough for our neighbors to take a shot and be sure instead of to assume we are fine ?

Do it for the people in your church, for your kids or grandkids teachers and custodians at school, for their bus drivers, for your mail man, for the guy who watches your house when your out of town, for the cashier at Lowes or Wal Mart, for the future OSU Cowboy who is currently starting on your local High School football team
So if we don't get the vaccine, we're lumped into a group that hates kids, 'Murica, my neighbors, my family, their kids, and everyone else in the world?

Wow....
 

Binman4OSU

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So if we don't get the vaccine, we're lumped into a group that hates kids, 'Murica, my neighbors, my family, their kids, and everyone else in the world?

Wow....
No where close to what I said. I gave you a list of things that you getting/not getting a vaccine can ACTUALLY impact maybe in a good or even in a bad way in your community by getting/not getting said vaccine.

You have to find the reason for yourself to do so. If you can find ZERO reason in your life, community, or family which will not convince you then that is up to you.

I just ask you to TRULY look within those realms and question is it worth it or not
 

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So if we don't get the vaccine, we're lumped into a group that hates kids, 'Murica, my neighbors, my family, their kids, and everyone else in the world?

Wow....
No where close to what I said. I gave you a list of things that you getting/not getting a vaccine can ACTUALLY impact maybe in a good or even in a bad way in your community by getting/not getting said vaccine.

You have to find the reason for yourself to do so. If you can find ZERO reason in your life, community, or family which will not convince you then that is up to you.

I just ask you to TRULY look within those realms and question is it worth it or not
I think you are mistakenly trying to lump him in with people that don't have antibodies and aren't getting the vaccine. He's saying people like him WITH antibodies are being undercounted

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But for those who contracted the virus before the vaccine was available, why should we feel compelled to go get it? You can say "insurance", but that's not a compelling enough reason for me.
Being honest, man, I don't know why you're asking. What reason can anyone on here give that you would actually listen to?

As above, there's now tons of data that if those with prior infections get the vaccine, it still increases your immune response and keeps it stronger. You'll delay the window where you'd be likely to catch it again and pass it on. You'd also increase the probability that even with massive exposure, you'd still have a neutralizing response where you don't get sick or infect others because not all exposure is the same.

Having played the game a bit, I'll flip the question on you. With vaccines now widely available, why not get it? It sounds like you don't have confirmation that you had it or your own antibodies. Why not take the now easy step and just about guarantee that you have protection and limit your ability to pass it on?
 
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So I went for an annual checkup this morning. My doctor asked me if I had taken the vaccine and when I told him that I hadn't he asked why. I told him that I really wasn't against it but had put it off because of the usual reasons ie..not enough research, I'm very healthy and extremely good looking, superman blood (O+), strong vitamin program, wanted to let those at high risk get it first, blah blah blah. He addressed each of my concerns and then he asked "If you hadn't heard anything from MSM and politicians, and you came in my office and I told you that you need to take this vaccine would you let me give you the shot?" Sooooo my wife and I will be getting the vaccine as soon as we can get in. On a side note, he did prefer the Pfizer and Moderna over the others.
 
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But for those who contracted the virus before the vaccine was available, why should we feel compelled to go get it? You can say "insurance", but that's not a compelling enough reason for me.
I had Covid and got the vaccine. At least part of the reason for me was that I want things to go back to normal and the vaccine is the clearest way. The statistics around the number of people who have antibodies through getting covid are necessarily going to be way fuzzier than the ones that say 37.4% of Oklahomans have at least one dose.

So it was that the vaccine is going to improve my immune response in the future, and a way for me to help the metrics get where they need to be for Cain's Ballroom to be full again.
 

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So if we don't get the vaccine, we're lumped into a group that hates kids, 'Murica, my neighbors, my family, their kids, and everyone else in the world?

Wow....
No you just hate the airline industry, travel industry, restaurant business, and the ability to not wear stinking mask. Honestly, it's selfish as h*ll not to get a simple stupid vaccine so we can move forward out of a stinking hell hole of a pandemic. We had over 450 people in the hospital in January in Tulsa 3 months of vaccine and we had about 50...we are now down to 40...the vaccine is the only difference between January and early March when our numbers dropped to 50 or so. Why would anyone want this virus and the forced mitigations to continue???...to me, that is exactly what people are choosing who refuse to get a simple vaccine along with the Millions of Americans who want it over and are doing their part to bring it to an end.

I'm sorry, man...that was harsh...I love you man...:) Get the vaccine and end the lockdowns, the mask, the virus, the covid crap. Let's end this togehter!! Get er done!
 
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Rack

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So I went for an annual checkup this morning. My doctor asked me if I had taken the vaccine and when I told him that I hadn't he asked why. I told him that I really wasn't against it but had put it off because of the usual reasons ie..not enough research, I'm very healthy and extremely good looking, superman blood (O+), strong vitamin program, wanted to let those at high risk get it first, blah blah blah. He addressed each of my concerns and then he asked "If you hadn't heard anything from MSM and politicians, and you came in my office and I told you that you need to take this vaccine would you let me give you the shot?" Sooooo my wife and I will be getting the vaccine as soon as we can get in. On a side note, he did prefer the Pfizer and Moderna over the others.
Not sure where you live...but if in Tulsa see below.

 
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But for those who contracted the virus before the vaccine was available, why should we feel compelled to go get it? You can say "insurance", but that's not a compelling enough reason for me.
A family member had the virus over the summer and ended up with no antibodies in their follow up tests. From my understanding, the presence of antibodies can vary within people who had Covid, though I would yield to some of the Dr's that post here feedback on this. Regarding motivation, I would say empathy and compassion for your fellow man would hopefully be compelling factors.
 

UrbanCowboy1

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Being honest, man, I don't know why you're asking. What reason can anyone on here give that you would actually listen to?

As above, there's now tons of data that if those with prior infections get the vaccine, it still increases your immune response and keeps it stronger. You'll delay the window where you'd be likely to catch it again and pass it on. You'd also increase the probability that even with massive exposure, you'd still have a neutralizing response where you don't get sick or infect others because not all exposure is the same.

Having played the game a bit, I'll flip the question on you. With vaccines now widely available, why not get it? It sounds like you don't have confirmation that you had it or your own antibodies. Why not take the now easy step and just about guarantee that you have protection and limit your ability to pass it on?
Damn, that's a good doctor. Essentially "forget about all the other crap, do you trust me"

 

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Being honest, man, I don't know why you're asking. What reason can anyone on here give that you would actually listen to?

As above, there's now tons of data that if those with prior infections get the vaccine, it still increases your immune response and keeps it stronger. You'll delay the window where you'd be likely to catch it again and pass it on. You'd also increase the probability that even with massive exposure, you'd still have a neutralizing response where you don't get sick or infect others because not all exposure is the same.

Having played the game a bit, I'll flip the question on you. With vaccines now widely available, why not get it? It sounds like you don't have confirmation that you had it or your own antibodies. Why not take the now easy step and just about guarantee that you have protection and limit your ability to pass it on?
I'm asking to see if there are compelling reasons I haven't considered. With numbers plummeting, at-risk populations with full access, our high likelihood of having antibodies, and my relatively small risk vector (I'm still working primarily from home), I just haven't had a sense of urgency about getting a really new vaccine.

I actually talked with my elderly neighbor yesterday who lives across the street. She was living in absolute terror for the last year, and has had her two doses since February. We had a really good talk about the whole thing yesterday, and it occurred to me that if Barbara (a) was that fearful (b) at risk due to age and (c) came over to hangout inside our house, I would have already gotten the vaccine for her sake. But the only time I see her is in the front yard, outside, about once a month. My parents are the next biggest worries, but both of them have already had the virus, and generally aren't very cautious people, so haven't even worn masks to family gatherings, etc... Workplace would be next likely vector, and I'm still working from home. So.... I just haven't had a good reason to go get it.
 

Birry

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I had Covid and got the vaccine. At least part of the reason for me was that I want things to go back to normal and the vaccine is the clearest way. The statistics around the number of people who have antibodies through getting covid are necessarily going to be way fuzzier than the ones that say 37.4% of Oklahomans have at least one dose.

So it was that the vaccine is going to improve my immune response in the future, and a way for me to help the metrics get where they need to be for Cain's Ballroom to be full again.
So where does this end, for you? What if this becomes an annual booster like a flu shot? Will line up yearly for your covid shot?
 
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So where does this end, for you? What if this becomes an annual booster like a flu shot? Will line up yearly for your covid shot?
I guess it depends on a number of factors. Are other countries with similar vaccination numbers experiencing lots of breakthrough infections, does my company bring the shots to the office to be given like they do with the flu? I'm hopeful that boosters won't be needed, but it's also not a bridge that has to be crossed today.
 
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I'm asking to see if there are compelling reasons I haven't considered. With numbers plummeting, at-risk populations with full access, our high likelihood of having antibodies, and my relatively small risk vector (I'm still working primarily from home), I just haven't had a sense of urgency about getting a really new vaccine.

I actually talked with my elderly neighbor yesterday who lives across the street. She was living in absolute terror for the last year, and has had her two doses since February. We had a really good talk about the whole thing yesterday, and it occurred to me that if Barbara (a) was that fearful (b) at risk due to age and (c) came over to hangout inside our house, I would have already gotten the vaccine for her sake. But the only time I see her is in the front yard, outside, about once a month. My parents are the next biggest worries, but both of them have already had the virus, and generally aren't very cautious people, so haven't even worn masks to family gatherings, etc... Workplace would be next likely vector, and I'm still working from home. So.... I just haven't had a good reason to go get it.
As a physician I strongly recommend to my extended family and friends to get the vaccine as soon at possible.
The vaccine is highly effective in preventing serious severe disease and virtually all deaths. Serious side effects are minimal. The longer we allow this to hang around the longer we permit it to change and become impossible to stamp out.
 

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So I went for an annual checkup this morning. My doctor asked me if I had taken the vaccine and when I told him that I hadn't he asked why. I told him that I really wasn't against it but had put it off because of the usual reasons ie..not enough research, I'm very healthy and extremely good looking, superman blood (O+), strong vitamin program, wanted to let those at high risk get it first, blah blah blah. He addressed each of my concerns and then he asked "If you hadn't heard anything from MSM and politicians, and you came in my office and I told you that you need to take this vaccine would you let me give you the shot?" Sooooo my wife and I will be getting the vaccine as soon as we can get in. On a side note, he did prefer the Pfizer and Moderna over the others.
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