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StillwaterTownie

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The fear porn continues....Addictions to fear are as addictive as porn. Healthy people turn it off or get help. I'd love it for people to turn off the fear porn and get something healthily into your system. This especially applies to those who routinely follow Covid 19 deaths and numbers daily. Sadly, I've been suspect to both and the first is cured by the Holy Spirit...but please let's get off this fear porn as well. Turn off CNN, turn off Fox, turn off MSN...and more than anything else turn off OP posters that peddle this junk.

God Speed to all those who love and trust him. :)
  • Isaiah 35:4.“Be strong, do not fear; your God will come through.
  • John 14:27. 27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. …
  • Joshua 1:9. 9 Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid;
  • Matthew 6:34. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself.
But a news story said:

"But even as the Big Ten unveiled a conference only football schedule last week, there remained growing concerns about whether schools could pull off playing safely during a pandemic. Rutgers remained sidelined from football workouts this week due to mass COVID-19 outbreak that impacted players, coaches and staff. Also last week, the mother of Indiana freshman offensive lineman Brady Feeney revealed in a Facebook post that Feeney was hospitalized with breathing issues and may have heart-related issues after being one of six IU football players who tested positive for COVID-19 last month." Excerpted from: https://www.stwnewspress.com/sports...cle_4e43c83e-db3b-11ea-9026-1bbd8bd9589e.html
 
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Fear isn't the answer, travel safely, clean the heck out of the plane, wear your mask, social distance as much as possible and be responsible...but travel and play your games. Test and retest...isolate anyone who gets the virus and quarantine them. We cannot be freaking isolated without recourse and without travel forever for a virus with this small of a death rate. Not to mention that it doesn't work to isolate as shown in NYC in the early stages of this thing. It's obscene and insane to keep doing the same things and expect different results. Innovate and eradicate. IF we don't play none of that structure is even available at all. Then kids go and do whatever the F they want, parties at the lake, the beach and the bar...it's MUCH better for them to be in structure. Think that one through.
Keeping players active and playing football may well be safer for the students.
 
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@Rack @osucowboy79 you both gave me a thumbs down. Explain to me how Michigan maintains their bubble and travels to, say, Opelika or Athens.
So, Nascar should only qualify so the cars don't run into each other?

Who cares about a bubble? I'd advocate for shields on linemen's face masks to limit spread and play ball but even that is overkill. Outside the trenches the risk of exposure to COVID is miniscule. The articles you cite say the same thing.
 

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Anecdotal, but factual follow-up to some previous stories I posted back in March or April.

My mom just reported that she tested positive for the antibodies, and was notified today. It confirms that she indeed had it when she thought she did back in March. Her closest colleague (who is actually immunocompromised) got it, and was an early confirmed case in Oklahoma. My mom then had symptoms for a week or two around the same time, as did several other friends, but tests were not available, so only 1 in like 10 of their whole group were even counted as cases. Keep in mind, these are all out of shape women in their 60's. None died, and all have recovered.

Now it's making me wonder if we were exposed and had it sometime shortly after that.

Also, how would my mom's confirmed case be counted? Will it be counted in tomorrow's #'s?
 

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Fear isn't the answer, travel safely, clean the heck out of the plane, wear your mask, social distance as much as possible and be responsible...but travel and play your games. Test and retest...isolate anyone who gets the virus and quarantine them.
In two weeks MLB has had to postpone 27 games.

We cannot be freaking isolated without recourse and without travel forever for a virus with this small of a death rate.
Two things:
1. No one is suggesting isolation without recourse and restricting travel forever, and
2. Right now COVID-19 is right now the third leading cause of death in the country, behind only heart disease and cancer.

Then kids go and do whatever the F they want, parties at the lake, the beach and the bar...it's MUCH better for them to be in structure. Think that one through.
You're suggesting we give them the freedom to play football so we can control their behavior better? Micromanage their lives through football?

Once school starts the players will be in class with kids who are going to bars, parties at the lake, etc. What happens to your bubble then? Think that one through.
 

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From the ABC article:​
Cuomo, a Democrat, on May 10 reversed the directive, which had been intended to help free up hospital beds for the sickest patients as cases surged. But he continued to defend it this week, saying he didn't believe it contributed to the more than 5,800 nursing and adult care facility deaths in New York — more than in any other state — and that homes should have spoken up if it was a problem.​

5800 nursing home deaths out of 32,000. Sending patients back to nursing homes was stupid, but it doesn't come close to accounting for the spike in and of itself.
To this point the state of New York refuses to follow federal regulations on reporting nursing home deaths.

New York’s true nursing home death toll cloaked in secrecy

New York’s coronavirus death toll in nursing homes, already among the highest in the nation, could actually be a significant undercount. Unlike every other state with major outbreaks, New York only counts residents who died on nursing home property and not those who were transported to hospitals and died there.

That statistic that could add thousands to the state’s official care home death toll of just over 6,600. But so far the administration of Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has refused to divulge the number, leading to speculation the state is manipulating the figures to make it appear it is doing a better than other states and to make a tragic situation less dire.

“That’s a problem, bro,” state Sen. Gustavo Rivera, a Democrat, told New York Health Commissioner Howard Zucker during a legislative hearing on nursing homes earlier this month. “It seems, sir, that in this case you are choosing to define it differently so that you can look better."

How big a difference could it make? Since May, federal regulators have required nursing homes to submit data on coronavirus deaths each week, whether or not residents died in the facility or at a hospital. Because the requirement came after the height of New York’s outbreak, the available data is relatively small. According to the federal data, roughly a fifth of the state’s homes reported resident deaths from early June to mid July — a tally of 323 dead, 65 percent higher than the state’s count of 195 during that time period.

Even if half that undercount had held true from the start of the pandemic, that would translate into thousands more nursing home resident deaths than the state has acknowledged.
Another group of numbers also suggests an undercount. State health department surveys show 21,000 nursing home beds are lying empty this year, 13,000 more than expected — an increase of almost double the official state nursing home death tally. While some of that increase can be attributed to fewer new admissions and people pulling their loved ones out, it suggests that many others who aren’t there anymore died.


https://www.chron.com/news/article/New-York-s-true-nursing-home-death-toll-cloaked-15474260.php
 

Binman4OSU

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Take the Russian vaccine from Putin or you are an ANTI-VAXXER!!!






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it will be interesting to see the old Russia "Vaccine" and how it works and who all buys in and uses it

I wonder if the conspiracy theorist who think this whole thing is is a plot to implant microchips through vaccine shots, would take the Russian vaccine now vs the American vaccine later

https://twitter.com/kfor/status/1293163614728261632
 
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it will be interesting to see the old Russia "Vaccine" and how it works and who all buys in and uses it

I wonder if the conspiracy theorist who think this whole thing is is a plot to implant microchips through vaccine shots, would take the Russian vaccine now vs the American vaccine later

https://twitter.com/kfor/status/1293163614728261632
I saw that Philippines president Duterte volunteered to buy a bunch and take the first shot himself. Hey, no downside!
 

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Trump putting this Tweet out which appears to mean he stands behind the players who are putting this out. This is the players group wanting universal healthcare, revenue sharing etc.

Is Trump on board with the players unionizing at the college level as this is what it is a call for

https://twitter.com/ByPatForde/status/1292874406180671494
The group started by Lawrence just wants to play and have universal safety measures and such.
The group out of the PAC12 is standing with him, but I don't think it means Lawrence wants all the stuff they are demanding.

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@Rack @osucowboy79 you both gave me a thumbs down. Explain to me how Michigan maintains their bubble and travels to, say, Opelika or Athens.
So, Nascar should only qualify so the cars don't run into each other?

Who cares about a bubble? I'd advocate for shields on linemen's face masks to limit spread and play ball but even that is overkill. Outside the trenches the risk of exposure to COVID is miniscule. The articles you cite say the same thing.
OSU already showed off some new helmets that have integrated shields.

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Fear isn't the answer, travel safely, clean the heck out of the plane, wear your mask, social distance as much as possible and be responsible...but travel and play your games. Test and retest...isolate anyone who gets the virus and quarantine them.
In two weeks MLB has had to postpone 27 games.

We cannot be freaking isolated without recourse and without travel forever for a virus with this small of a death rate.
Then kids go and do whatever the F they want, parties at the lake, the beach and the bar...it's MUCH better for them to be in structure. Think that one through.
You're suggesting we give them the freedom to play football so we can control their behavior better? Micromanage their lives through football?

Once school starts the players will be in class with kids who are going to bars, parties at the lake, etc. What happens to your bubble then? Think that one through.
The players are saying they are willing to be in a bubble. And a large group of their classes are online usually anyway. At least at OSU.

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Binman4OSU

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The players are saying they are willing to be in a bubble. And a large group of their classes are online usually anyway. At least at OSU.

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the bubble includes the playing facility and practice facilities as well.

Living in a bubble means all teams using the same playing field area and sharing a few practice facilities. Once you travel anywhere the bubble is no longer in tact