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Boomer.....

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https://twitter.com/Nature/status/1550145392825737217
Is this news? Isn't it pretty well know that natural antibodies help protect from catching another round of COVID just as a vaccination would? I know the mutations make the protection wane, but we're still using the original vaccination based off the first strain to protect us ten or so mutations later.
 

gundysburner

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Is this news? Isn't it pretty well know that natural antibodies help protect from catching another round of COVID just as a vaccination would? I know the mutations make the protection wane, but we're still using the original vaccination based off the first strain to protect us ten or so mutations later.
Have you seen the volume of stuff he posts???
 
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This is actually just bad science reporting. From the article: "There were no appreciable between-group differences in the time to PCR conversion or culture conversion according to vaccination status, although the sample size was quite small, which led to imprecision in the estimates". It basically says the opposite of what the headline said. It's also not even a full article, but a letter to the editor. Anyone with a half decent knowledge of science would catch that stuff immediately. So, either they're an idiot or being disingenuous.

Also, the non-significant effect that the news outlet is interpreting likely has more to do with omicron being more likely to breakthrough vaccines (that is not to say that vaccines make it more dangerous) and omicron having the exact same non-significant pattern as vaccination status. This is a sample of already confirmed infections, which already skews the sampling because boosted people are much less likely to catch delta, but the difference isn't as great for omicron. Effects like this happen with non-random samples. Specifically, only 3% of their delta cased had been boosted compared with 35% of omicron cases (meaning the overwhelming majority of boosted people in the study had omicron with a more even split among the unvaccinated). Again, crap science reporting.

Edit: link to the actual letter to the editor/article
 

steross

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This is actually just bad science reporting. From the article: "There were no appreciable between-group differences in the time to PCR conversion or culture conversion according to vaccination status, although the sample size was quite small, which led to imprecision in the estimates". It basically says the opposite of what the headline said. It's also not even a full article, but a letter to the editor. Anyone with a half decent knowledge of science would catch that stuff immediately. So, either they're an idiot or being disingenuous.

Also, the non-significant effect that the news outlet is interpreting likely has more to do with omicron being more likely to breakthrough vaccines (that is not to say that vaccines make it more dangerous) and omicron having the exact same non-significant pattern as vaccination status. This is a sample of already confirmed infections, which already skews the sampling because boosted people are much less likely to catch delta, but the difference isn't as great for omicron. Effects like this happen with non-random samples. Specifically, only 3% of their delta cased had been boosted compared with 35% of omicron cases (meaning the overwhelming majority of boosted people in the study had omicron with a more even split among the unvaccinated). Again, crap science reporting.

Edit: link to the actual letter to the editor/article
Just wow. That was really bad.

But, not surprising, even with all of the high-quality data out there that this is the type of stuff that @Deere Poke posts every time he tries to add something.
 

Deere Poke

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Just wow. That was really bad.

But, not surprising, even with all of the high-quality data out there that this is the type of stuff that @Deere Poke posts every time he tries to add something.
I simply said it's interesting. Would be interesting to see follow up studies that are more thorough . So many interesting things going on in healthcare at the moment. I'm out and will be quiet for another 6 months. HAGD.
 

Deere Poke

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This is actually just bad science reporting. From the article: "There were no appreciable between-group differences in the time to PCR conversion or culture conversion according to vaccination status, although the sample size was quite small, which led to imprecision in the estimates". It basically says the opposite of what the headline said. It's also not even a full article, but a letter to the editor. Anyone with a half decent knowledge of science would catch that stuff immediately. So, either they're an idiot or being disingenuous.

Also, the non-significant effect that the news outlet is interpreting likely has more to do with omicron being more likely to breakthrough vaccines (that is not to say that vaccines make it more dangerous) and omicron having the exact same non-significant pattern as vaccination status. This is a sample of already confirmed infections, which already skews the sampling because boosted people are much less likely to catch delta, but the difference isn't as great for omicron. Effects like this happen with non-random samples. Specifically, only 3% of their delta cased had been boosted compared with 35% of omicron cases (meaning the overwhelming majority of boosted people in the study had omicron with a more even split among the unvaccinated). Again, crap science reporting.

Edit: link to the actual letter to the editor/article
Thanks, Saw it and was wondering what it was about.
 
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Is it too soon to remind everyone of this gem from sleepy Joe a year ago.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1550126265490763785?s=20&t=uxsEKQZ7h1sfZqtnIS8nKA

After all the vaccines, masks, social distancing and fist bumps of foreign leaders he still gets it
 

oks10

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Is it too soon to remind everyone of this gem from sleepy Joe a year ago.

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1550126265490763785?s=20&t=uxsEKQZ7h1sfZqtnIS8nKA


After all the vaccines, masks, social distancing and fist bumps of foreign leaders he still gets it
Not quite as embarrassing as saying it's just gonna "disappear, like magic"....
 

gundysburner

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Previous one got it too. I'm not sure what points ya'll are trying to score here...
It’s always fun to remind the Trump worshippers of their “very stable genius”

https://youtu.be/Ftpc4fwcDfk
Pointing out Bidens clear deficiencies doesn’t automatically equate to Trump worship, but whatever you need to distract yourself, have at it.


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