Covid-19

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Rack

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WOW, that is interesting that a hospital isn't enforcing masks.
We are asking people to mask up but also not enforcing in the physicians buildings and leaving it up to our individual practices and doctors offices to provide extra mask as they require. Also asking them that they provide them if required. Restrictions remain in place at the main hospital but we are relaxing a bit due to the pandemic becoming somewhat endemic. It was never intended to be permanent although that would have some benefit I’m sure. I for one want things back to pre pandemic as I’m tired of wearing mask everyday for the past two and a half years. I was also tired of the expense to provide them for visitors.
 

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Pfizer says Paxlovid doesn’t help COVID-19 patients unless they are high risk

Pfizer’s COVID-19 antiviral Paxlovid isn’t effective for people who are vaccinated and healthy.

The company on Tuesday shared updated data from a Phase 2/3 clinical trial evaluating Paxlovid, saying that the antiviral does not help reduce symptoms in people who are considered “standard risk” for a severe COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, or death, as had been previously reported.

It also said Paxlovid did not have a significant impact on high-risk people who have been vaccinated.
 

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https://twitter.com/Forbes/status/1537865332999831556

DeSantis defended his decision not to preorder vaccines in a news conference on Thursday, saying his administration was “affirmatively against the Covid vaccine for young kids.”


Yet another example of why this is the guy I want to be president the least. He is a dictator in waiting. Note that it isn't that this vaccine is mandated. What he wants is for people to follow his rules. He wanted to make the choice and only gave in due to overwhelming anger. He did not want the parent to get the choice. He advocates for "parents' rights" only in the aspects that they agree with his positions. Why is the state "against" a vaccine that the medical community advocates? I don't care if he doesn't want the state to promote it. But, to take the access away from parents shows exactly how this guy will lead.

People that agree with him think his antics are great. But, that shows caring about getting your way more than caring about freedom. Nearly every time he is in the news for a policy it is about restricting others in some way. He is anti-libertarian.
 
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Are these new findings, because I could have sworn that everyone was preaching that vaccines were more effective than natural immunity with both being far superior?

New study indicates natural immunity offers greater protection from COVID-19 than vaccines

WASHINGTON (TND) — A new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine is backing up claims that natural immunity provides greater protection from COVID-19 infection than multiple vaccine doses.

“Natural Immunity wins again,” Johns Hopkins's Dr. Martin Makary tweeted alongside a link to the study.

“Where's the humility of public health officials to simply say, ‘We got this so wrong,’” Makary questioned in a second tweet. “Many lives were ruined, credibility was lost, & tragically vaccines were rationed to those with natural immunity (early in the vaccine rollout) as non-immune seniors died clamoring to get them.”


The study indicates the immune response elicited from COVID-19 infection was “higher” than that elicited from a second dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

Among persons who had been previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 (regardless of whether they had received any dose of vaccine or whether they had received one dose before or after infection), protection against reinfection decreased as the time increased since the last immunity-conferring event,” the NEJM study reads. “[H]owever, this protection was higher than that conferred after the same time had elapsed since receipt of a second dose of vaccine among previously uninfected persons.
“Study after study have shown that natural immunity after covid infection is superior to vaccine immunity,” tweeted former Harvard Professor of Medicine Martin Kulldorff. “Forcing the vaccine on everyone is a stain on hospitals, universities and public health officials. How can we trust them on other matters?”

NEJM’s study also touches on a term known as “hybrid immunity,” the immunity obtained from both previous infection and the receipt of a vaccine.

“Some laboratory studies have indicated that ‘hybrid immunity’ (i.e., immunity conferred by the combination of previous infection and vaccination) offers greater broad-spectrum protection, elicits higher levels of neutralizing antibodies, and provides greater protection against infection than immunity conferred by vaccination or infection alone,” the study asserts.

But critics are struggling to agree that a vaccine dose does anything to promote a greater immune response in those who have been previously infected.


Critics hold that natural immunity does not carry across variants, and that its protection is far weaker than proponents claim.

“New studies show that natural immunity to the coronavirus weakens (wanes) over time, and does so faster than immunity provided by COVID-19 vaccination,” Dr. Lisa Maragakis and Dr. Gabor Kelen wrote in a report discussing natural immunity.

Furthermore, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention still recommends individuals get a COVID-19 vaccine even if they have already been infected.
 

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Pfizer says Paxlovid doesn’t help COVID-19 patients unless they are high risk

Pfizer’s COVID-19 antiviral Paxlovid isn’t effective for people who are vaccinated and healthy.

The company on Tuesday shared updated data from a Phase 2/3 clinical trial evaluating Paxlovid, saying that the antiviral does not help reduce symptoms in people who are considered “standard risk” for a severe COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, or death, as had been previously reported.

It also said Paxlovid did not have a significant impact on high-risk people who have been vaccinated.
Anthony Fauci says that he's experienced rebound Covid symptoms after taking a Pfizer's antiviral Paxlovid - which studies now show is NOT effective for people who are vaccinated

  • Dr. Anthony Fauci said that he's on his second course of Paxlovid after testing positive again for Covid-19
  • According to Pfizer's own data, the drug is limited in its abilities to fight Covid-19 in a vaccinated person
  • The CDC issued a warning about the potential for Covid-19 rebound symptoms after taking Paxlovid in May 2022
  • The warning noted that none of the reported rebound cases saw patients suffer a severe case of Covid-19, though Fauci described his symptoms as 'much worse'
  • A UC San Diego study found that patients who were experiencing Covid rebound symptoms suffered because Paxlovid did not get to enough infected cells
  • At the same conference where he announced the rebound, Fauci called for an 'aggressive' national vaccine campaign