Big 12 to meet to consider 6 new teams(PAC)

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THIS^^^

Not to mention sometimes you have to take bigger risks/bold moves in order to pass the competition.
Sportsbooks also have solved for this. Those groups have systems worth 10's of thousands to they can show any game/sporting event on the planet. I was able to watch every Champions League game at Circa sports book last week. Only 1 of those games was on regular channel programming.
 

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More proof of lack of fan support for PAC 12 this weekend:
Oregon at Washington State attendance 33,058
USC at Oregon State attendance 38,768, both teams with no losses entering the game
Arizona at California attendance 37,216
Utah at Arizona State attendance 39,876
UCLA at Colorado attendance 42,848

In contrast:
Duke at Kansas attendance 47,223
Tarlton University at TCU attendance 43,197 a few weeks ago

I realize this is only a sample but the remaining 8 are stronger than these numbers. BYU attendance will be really good and the other three new additions will probably fit in the PAC 12 range with some upside from joining a P5 conference.
 
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Goes with what I have said before; it doesn't matter how big the potential tv market is if people aren't watching. And the numbers say WC people are not only not attending, they aren't watching in large numbers either.
 
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More proof of lack of fan support for PAC 12 this weekend:
Oregon at Washington State attendance 33,058
USC at Oregon State attendance 38,768, both teams with no losses entering the game
Arizona at California attendance 37,216
Utah at Arizona State attendance 39,876
UCLA at Colorado attendance 42,848

In contrast:
Duke at Kansas attendance 47,223
Tarlton University at TCU attendance 43,197 a few weeks ago

I realize this is only a sample but the remaining 8 are stronger than these numbers. BYU attendance will be really good and the other three new additions will probably fit in the PAC 12 range with some upside from joining a P5 conference.
I wouldn't be so down on the Oregon State attendance. They're literally missing half of their stadium right now as they rebuild one of the main stands. The rest, yeah... not great. Although I'm pretty sure Washington State's stadium only hold like 32-33,000, so I guess technically it was a sellout.
 

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I wouldn't be so down on the Oregon State attendance. They're literally missing half of their stadium right now as they rebuild one of the main stands. The rest, yeah... not great. Although I'm pretty sure Washington State's stadium only hold like 32-33,000, so I guess technically it was a sellout.
This.
 
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Goes with what I have said before; it doesn't matter how big the potential tv market is if people aren't watching. And the numbers say WC people are not only not attending, they aren't watching in large numbers either.
agreed which is why I don't know why Yormarck is so hell bent on going west when he should be going east. I'd rather invade the ACC if possible. Pitt and Louisville are no brainers assuming Florida State, Miami and Clemson are all a pipe dream
 
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agreed which is why I don't know why Yormarck is so hell bent on going west when he should be going east. I'd rather invade the ACC if possible. Pitt and Louisville are no brainers assuming Florida State, Miami and Clemson are all a pipe dream
Because west is the only option potentially available at this point. ACC deal keeps those teams in for 10+ years. For now, Yormark wants to lock down a fourth time zone for the conference. I would fully expect the Big 12 to try to scoop up some ACC schools when the Big Ten and SEC steal Clemson, Florida State and Miami in the next decade.
 

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I'd bet anything that Clemson, Florida State and Miami will be in the Big 10 and SEC much much sooner than 2036
They almost have to if they want to still compete monetarily. The long term contract for the ACC is an albatross. They will be even more behind then the Big 12 will be because they are stuck in their current deal until 2036 with no meaningful increases even beyond that. To 'keep up with the Jones" they will definitely be jumping early. See when SEC and B1G start getting closer to 100MM per school and they are still in the 40s. Not going to be pretty at least with a lot of their boosters etc.
 
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I'd bet anything that Clemson, Florida State and Miami will be in the Big 10 and SEC much much sooner than 2036
I agree, except I'm not sure Miami gets that invitation. It seems to me they've become somewhat of a Louisville or Memphis level of marketability. And the SEC would already have Florida and Florida State, so I think Miami might be a better future Big XII fit.
 

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I agree, except I'm not sure Miami gets that invitation. It seems to me they've become somewhat of a Louisville or Memphis level of marketability. And the SEC would already have Florida and Florida State, so I think Miami might be a better future Big XII fit.
Yeah, WTF happened to this "blueblood"?!?!? Their attendance looks like UCLA-level attendance. :glare: