Big 12 to meet to consider 6 new teams(PAC)

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PAC 12 commish is out of his depth with what's going on, but he's their second in a row, so there's that.

“It’s clear that UCLA and USC made a decision for short-term financial gain at the expense of their student-athletes. It’s 100 percent clear to me. It’s really unfortunate, and I think they are already regretting it, given the pushback that they’ve gotten from almost every corner of their communities. I think they will regret it more as time goes on,” Kliavkoff told The Athletic when talking about the situation."


Hopefully Yormark's a little more clued in to college athletics.
It honestly shocks me how unprofessional the PAC commissioner has been this last week. He just comes off as an immature teenager. You didn't see the Big 12 doing that last year when the s*** hit the fan.
 

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I was in favor of doing the SEC thing initially but after some thought, if we can get anywhere NEAR competitive dollars then i'd almost prefer to stay in the Big 12. Especially if we can rise to the top as consistent winners and or strong contenders in all sports. I think being a winner in any top 3 or 4 conference is worth more value than being middle of the road team or possibly doormat in down years in another conference.
There's no such thing as "competitive dollars" outside the SEC/BIG. The absolute best case scenario is half of what those teams make, and its almost certainly going to be less than half.
 

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It honestly shocks me how unprofessional the PAC commissioner has been this last week. He just comes off as an immature teenager. You didn't see the Big 12 doing that last year when the s*** hit the fan.
He's new to college athletics, like Larry Scott was before him, and his two biggest programs just left the conference. Let's just say his learning curve is extremely steep and he's trying to save the job he's got.

It'll never be proven, but you'll also never convince me that the B1G & UCLA & USC didn't have discussions last summer when the whole 'Alliance' thing was being brokered between the B1G, PAC & ACC.
 
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They did a very lame half-time performance at the Fiesta Bowl that was full of typical Oklahoma stereotypes. The only thing I was offended by was how bad and unoriginal it really was...
And worse was that they played all during the post-game awards when all their players had left the field and they tried to drown out the PA congratulating the Pokes while on stage.

I also personally had a run in with them in the parking lot afterwards where they would not yield a walk way and were smug and offensive.
 
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There's also no telling how sustainable this entire product will be in 5-10 years. I'm already losing interest due to NIL and transfers. Surely others around the country are as well. If the arms race continues through the creation of super conferences with premier TV contracts leaving the other teams behind, then the product has even less intrigue as a whole. Is it possible that D1 football is working towards a bubble that will pop? If so, it might be best for OSU to avoid the super leagues for that reason alone.
NASCAR says "hello".
They were all the rage in the late 90's early 2000's. Now they can't give their tickets away.
Screwed up their golden goose.
 

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He's new to college athletics, like Larry Scott was before him, and his two biggest programs just left the conference. Let's just say his learning curve is extremely steep and he's trying to save the job he's got.

It'll never be proven, but you'll also never convince me that the B1G & UCLA & USC didn't have discussions last summer when the whole 'Alliance' thing was being brokered between the B1G, PAC & ACC.
Big 10 message board rumors of USC/UCLA last year but you never know what take from those, just like Twitter rumors. Hell, there were rumors of UT to Big being a done deal back when B12 South was flirting with the PAC
 
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Bowlsby did make the ESPN tampering accusation. And whether or not it actually happened, the accusation went nowhere.
Well, it went no where in the court of law or in public. We really don’t know what it helped slow down or prevent. At one point there were rumors of espn helping pay to expedite ou and ut’s departure, AAC tampering, etc.
 

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There's no such thing as "competitive dollars" outside the SEC/BIG. The absolute best case scenario is half of what those teams make, and its almost certainly going to be less than half.
I think given the right leadership and negotiations we could get at or near 70 million per team as compared to the other 2 netting around 100MM. I think we got lucky with timing and if we capitalize as the next best thing in line for lets say CBS to solidify its NCAA Football standing then we will be 'competitive'
 
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I am coming around to share the same thought. The SEC is very tough, and I fear we would have limited success. Although the B1G is one of the "top two" conferences, there are enough weaker teams there to have more success. But I don't see how we end up there. I think the Big12 competition can be fun and interesting with the mix of teams we have. Future expansion could make it more interesting.
SEC teams I am not afraid of: Vanderbilt, Florida, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tenneessee, Ole Miss, MSU, A&M, Auburn, Texas and Arkansas. I'd expect to be about .500 or better against all of those team. I think OU and Texas will have similar records in the SEC as they had in the Big 12. The key for OU will be getting past Bama and Georgia to win the championship. In spite of all that is said, the SEC is a top-heavy league with a few great teams but a lot of .500 also-ran teams.

As a pest control specialist I once knew said, "Squirrels are just rats with better publicity."
 
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I think given the right leadership and negotiations we could get at or near 70 million per team as compared to the other 2 netting around 100MM. I think we got lucky with timing and if we capitalize as the next best thing in line for lets say CBS to solidify its NCAA Football standing then we will be 'competitive'
Just posted a poll on the best media partner. Would be really curious to see who everyone thinks is our best foot forward.
 

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I think given the right leadership and negotiations we could get at or near 70 million per team as compared to the other 2 netting around 100MM. I think we got lucky with timing and if we capitalize as the next best thing in line for lets say CBS to solidify its NCAA Football standing then we will be 'competitive'
Have you seen anything reputable to support that figure? Everything I've seen is maybe $40 million at best. I recall seeing one speculation of up to $50 mil but it wasn't very reputable. How on earth would a conference with no bluebloods come anywhere close to the BIG and SEC? If they get $100 mil, we can maybe get $50 mil with some extreme creativity.
 
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SEC teams I am not afraid of: Vanderbilt, Florida, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Tenneessee, Ole Miss, MSU, A&M, Auburn, Texas and Arkansas. I'd expect to be about .500 or better against all of those team. I think OU and Texas will have similar records in the SEC as they had in the Big 12. The key for OU will be getting past Bama and Georgia to win the championship. In spite of all that is said, the SEC is a top-heavy league with a few great teams but a lot of .500 also-ran teams.

As a pest control specialist I once knew said, "Squirrels are just rats with better publicity."
Texas will continue to be mediocre, and ou will have nowhere near the success they had in the Big12. I can understand what you’re saying about most of those teams, but Ole Miss, Arkansas, A&M and Florida would probably cause problems for OSU. OSU does not recruit near a few of those programs as well. Just my opinion with no skin in the game.
 
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And we’re 0-3 against Ole Miss in bowl games! A lot of orange koolaid being consumed by some fans on this board!
.750 might be a bit much, but I think we would have a winning record versus those those teams. If you want to use past season, we are 1-0 vs Bama, 1-1 vs Georgia, and 6-4 vs A&M over the last 20 years, and those are the 3 favorites to win the SEC this coming season.
 
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