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I would much rather deal with a honest straight forward person-organization than a slick smile in your face and stab you in the back one. While the smile & stab you types might put more dollars in the bank it probably is close to wash because of the trouble they bring and the extra effort to constantly watch your back
Point taken that our eyeballs don't match our output yet, but let's not act like winning isn't a huge part of "the point". It shows where the program is at now and is likely going, as opposed to what it was 20 and 50 years ago. Earlier in this long thread someone posted the stats that we have the best tv ratings of anyone in the Big 12 that's being left behind.
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No doubt we are a top 20 team and Athletic department. But it all comes down to money, if adding us increases their contract so that we aren’t taking money out of the other schools pockets then I think we won’t have a problem.
I’ve seen numbers elsewhere that show we are top 20 overall tv audience as well, in all cases better than the vast majority of the teams in all the conferences we seem to be trying to work with. But I really don’t know what that average audience has to be to move the needle.
I’ve seen numbers elsewhere that show we are top 20 overall tv audience as well, in all cases better than the vast majority of the teams in all the conferences we seem to be trying to work with. But I really don’t know what that average audience has to be to move the needle.
I’ll just say this, it’s refreshing to finally see someone in charge take such a stand. Approve or not, like it or not, she came out and made her feelings known AS PRESIDENT of our university. She also indirectly sent a message there’s a new sheriff in town, and unlike past administrations we’re not afraid to call someone out when it’s warranted. In the grand scheme of things it may not be anything significant, but it’s nice to know we have someone willing to at least take some kind of action, rather than just sit back and play Mr. Nice Guy/Ms. Nice Lady and not hurt anyone’s feelings.
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Are you kidding?? She is being forward thinking. There is no future for OSU and ou together. Lay every bit of groundwork you can to enforce the GOR, and make them pay to exit. There is simply no downside. During Holder's regime, there was always a bit of a hope/facade that we could tag along with Texas and to some extent ou for our long term benefit. I challenge anyone to lay out a long term benefit to playing nice with them at this point.
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This is an extremely debatable topic for me, I think every OSU fan knows exactly how much success we’ve had in football in the past 11-12 years however I firmly believe that if we had more conference championships we would not even be debating about which conference we might go or if we can even get into one at all. If anything I would say OSU fans OVERESTIMATE how much those wins actually mean to other people. If you’ve seen the graphic that shows the overall records in the big xII over the last 7-8 years whatever it is and has Texas in 5th or whatever, OSU is in 2nd and to most people outside of the big xII that is a complete shock. I understand it also has A LOT to do with OSU being a small market but you would think a p5 team that is consistently winning or competing in conference championships would have no problem being pulled into the SEC or BIG.
I think the GOR should absolutely be enforced and ties should absolutely be severed. Just don't think it was necessary to put it in an official statement. The statement should be focused on what we are doing to secure our future and that's it. Just my opinion which of course means nothing.
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Who said anything about playing nice? No one. Her statement does not make the GOR any more or any less enforceable.
The downside is Big 10, PAC 12, and ACC Administrators may not care to be in business with someone they view as an outspoken university president. In their minds they could be thinking “so if she disagrees with something I say or do am I next?”
Maybe they don’t care at all, I don’t know. But there’s a reason why the saying is “The loudest one in the room, is the weakest one in the room.” Sometimes there’s wisdom in playing your cards close to your chest.
The downside is Big 10, PAC 12, and ACC Administrators may not care to be in business with someone they view as an outspoken university president. In their minds they could be thinking “so if she disagrees with something I say or do am I next?”
Maybe they don’t care at all, I don’t know. But there’s a reason why the saying is “The loudest one in the room, is the weakest one in the room.” Sometimes there’s wisdom in playing your cards close to your chest.
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I haven’t checked Twitter on that yet, so I’m sure you’re right. Some of the forums similar to this one are where I’ve been trying to get a feel for their thoughts. Of course all of them seem to be more in favor of contraction and not expansion, so I’m setting myself up for disappointment I suppose!
