Yeah, well, it's been 12 years. How much longer do you think he'll need before he sprouts those wings? Maybe he just needs better assistants. Stoops wasnt cutting it any longer despite being a HOFer, he had to shake things up and fire people and hire good ones in replacement. Things really started looking better after that. I think after this much time has passed, we have a good idea of what to expect out of Gundy. I heard about the blake thing and he tried to turn his mediocre ability has a HC into a race thing and i'm glad it didnt go that way, because clearly the guy wasnt ready ,and as it turns out, not HC material.