Apple to start scanning images stored to icloud for child abuse

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oks10

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First of all "personal privacy" is an illusion.. we willing gave that up to the Googles, Facebooks and Apples of the world without so much of a whimper.

Secondly, they are comparing the pictures to known hashes of child porn pictures so you have little to worry about thus far... however it does open the door to future issues.
That's why I put quotes around it. I didn't read into it to see that they were scanning from known pictures. So, even LESS to be concerned about I guess.
 

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Some of you guys... I'd be way more concerned about it accidently flagging a photo than I would about the "planting a photo on the device of a consumer they're pissed off at"... My wife takes tons and tons of photos of our kids including bath photos when they're babies. We're cognizant that those photos are being backed up on a server so we try to cover everything but what happens if Apple sees a perfectly innocent photo of your baby playing in the bath and flags it?

I don't own any Apple products so I don't have skin in the game, but if some of you are worried about them scanning photos on their server I've got some bad news for you about your "personal privacy"...
This happened to me on Facebook... I got 30 days of Facebook jail for posting a "past photo that violated child pornography policies". They sent me a notice and said they removed the photo. I'm pretty sure it was a photo of my ~10 mo old chubby baby daughter, sitting on the couch at Christmas time in nothing but a diaper, with Christmas present bows stuck to the sides of her head like Princess Leia. 110% completely an innocent photo. AND I would have posted that photo like in 2014, 2015 timeframe... and I got nailed for the infraction in the fall of 2020. I spent about an hour Googling how you could protest a suspension to no avail, just had to wait out the jail time. It was stupid AF. :mad:
 

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Some of you guys... I'd be way more concerned about it accidently flagging a photo than I would about the "planting a photo on the device of a consumer they're pissed off at"... My wife takes tons and tons of photos of our kids including bath photos when they're babies. We're cognizant that those photos are being backed up on a server so we try to cover everything but what happens if Apple sees a perfectly innocent photo of your baby playing in the bath and flags it?

I don't own any Apple products so I don't have skin in the game, but if some of you are worried about them scanning photos on their server I've got some bad news for you about your "personal privacy"...
That happened to MSU Mankato's football coach a few years ago. He had an issue with his university issued phone and took it to IT. IT found a video of his kids in the bathtub on it, turned it over to HR and eventually it fell into the hands of an overzealous prosecutor. A judge threw the charges out but it didn't matter.

Taking personal videos on a university phone is on him but I don’t think he should have had his life ruined over it.
 

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Apple delays its criticized plan to scan iPhones for child exploitation images

Critics said Apple’s system was at odds with its promises to protect its customers’ privacy.

“Last month we announced plans for features intended to help protect children from predators who use communication tools to recruit and exploit them, and limit the spread of Child Sexual Abuse Material,” the company said in a statement. “Based on feedback from customers, advocacy groups, researchers and others, we have decided to take additional time over the coming months to collect input and make improvements before releasing these critically important child safety features.”
 

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Apple delays its criticized plan to scan iPhones for child exploitation images

Critics said Apple’s system was at odds with its promises to protect its customers’ privacy.

“Last month we announced plans for features intended to help protect children from predators who use communication tools to recruit and exploit them, and limit the spread of Child Sexual Abuse Material,” the company said in a statement. “Based on feedback from customers, advocacy groups, researchers and others, we have decided to take additional time over the coming months to collect input and make improvements before releasing these critically important child safety features.”
A bigger point I ask myself is what authority does Apple have to do this? Why does it fall to a corporation to be on the lookout for child predators?
 

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A bigger point I ask myself is what authority does Apple have to do this? Why does it fall to a corporation to be on the lookout for child predators?
Would you rather the government be scanning through your cloud??

Obviously the answer is probably "neither" but if they're gonna be trying to find these types of images, I'm more comfortable with a private company that I've accept a terms and conditions with (and that I can cut ties with at any time) doing it than the government.
 

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Would you rather the government be scanning through your cloud??

Obviously the answer is probably "neither" but if they're gonna be trying to find these types of images, I'm more comfortable with a private company that I've accept a terms and conditions with (and that I can cut ties with at any time) doing it than the government.
It is neither, ha. But you make a good point and I get it. It's just such a slippery slope for anyone to have this kind of monitoring power. I know that ship sailed a long time ago, but I still try to hold true to the idea that freedom comes with risks.
 

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It is neither, ha. But you make a good point and I get it. It's just such a slippery slope for anyone to have this kind of monitoring power. I know that ship sailed a long time ago, but I still try to hold true to the idea that freedom comes with risks.
No disagreement from me here.
 

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Would you rather the government be scanning through your cloud??

Obviously the answer is probably "neither" but if they're gonna be trying to find these types of images, I'm more comfortable with a private company that I've accept a terms and conditions with (and that I can cut ties with at any time) doing it than the government.
Big Government is scanning EVERYTHING already!
 

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That happened to MSU Mankato's football coach a few years ago. He had an issue with his university issued phone and took it to IT. IT found a video of his kids in the bathtub on it, turned it over to HR and eventually it fell into the hands of an overzealous prosecutor. A judge threw the charges out but it didn't matter.

Taking personal videos on a university phone is on him but I don’t think he should have had his life ruined over it.
The world has changed and our laws have a difficult time keeping up with protecting innocent people.

The "predator" in the above situation was the over zealous prosecutor.