And you thought it was Trump.....

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Binman4OSU

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Stupid about AGW!!
Leaks show GOP member was recruiting and using Proud Boys in Nevada AND Arizona during the election period to support Trump, and then even to try to disrupt the Biden certification in AZ

 
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Only blind partisans would not include Obama. He brought it to unprecedented levels before it got turned up to 12. He’s a toxic divisive prick. The opposite side of the same coin.

It looks like government now can disagree without being disagreeable in most instances
I'm curious of a couple examples of things Obama did or said to really ramp it up, and why you think he is a "toxic prick". I get he is cocky and turned a lot of people off, but I'm curious as to actual actions. I remember he said something about ketchup on hot dogs, but what else?? Was it the Trayvonne Martin commentary?
 
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It does feel better knowing there is a MUCH less significant chance of the POTUS starting some conflict or war every day via Twitter. There is a sense of relief there isn't some new/different thing that is going to impact my daily life because of some topic that Trump just had a notion to Tweet About at 2am on a Tuesday morning. I don't have to wake up each week with some weird thing to research because everyone in the world will ask your opinion and stance on the controversy of the day that Trump had Tweeted about, said, made up, etc
I must have missed it. Which war did Trump start? Seemed like a pretty peaceful 4 years on the war front. Im honestly much more concerned about foreign conflict today than I was 5 months ago. By the time Joe gets done kissing everyone’s hind quarters, writing checks, and informing the world how rotten America is, they won’t have to burn up much ammo. Trump is an insufferable, insecure prick, that I probably wouldn’t enjoy being in the same room with. But.....he busted his ass to secure our border and hold our competition accountable on trade. He got us out of several horrible deals that make zero sense economically ie..The Paris Accord. He tried to get out of the way of business and let capitalism work and he friggin’ loves America almost as much as he loves himself. Minorities have never done better and more blacks voted in the last election than any time in history in spite of the left’s lies about voter suppression. If he could have just shut his pie hole for five minutes he would have walked into a second term with a blindfold on because the left simply doesn’t have anyone worth voting for and their platform is basically a socialist recipe for disaster.
I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what is great about Biden other than he isn’t Trump. I voted for Trump twice but not really. I voted for the policies and platform. In the same vein a vote for Biden wasn’t really a vote for sleepy old Joe. How someone could listen to the rhetoric coming out of this administration and not label it as divisive is beyond me. Bring on the zzzzs
 
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So that’s why the wingnuts don’t want a Commission to investigate the 6th! Probably more the one congressperson helping the Insurrectionist. I have suspected that all along.
 

cowboyinexile

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Common words liberals use as “facts”: Probably. May be. Appears to be. Could be. Possibly. Looks like.
To be fair, learning facts are a good thing.

Also I think you overuse the word liberal. I'd like to know what really went down here but because I'm not willing to sweep it under the rug you will identify me as opposition and try to categorized that. I'm concerned over how someone tried to use a combination of narcissistic behavior and cult of personality to overthrow the government but at the end of the day I eat steaks that are blue rare and would die before I buy an electric vehicle. There are a wide swath of people who are concerned about the antics of Trump on Jan 6th but voted Republican downstream because they wanted a change at the top but were uncomfortable with defunding local police districts.

Sorry if I came across too strong here but the black and white division on politics annoys me.
 

Binman4OSU

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Stupid about AGW!!
So the DOJ should substitute itself as the defendant in a accusation against Trump for defamation stemming from Trump's response to an alleged rape that took place prior to him being in office...but since Trump was in office at the time of the alleged defamation, then Trump shouldn't be the defendant and the DOJ should.

WHAT?

 

TheMonkey

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So the DOJ should substitute itself as the defendant in a accusation against Trump for defamation stemming from Trump's response to an alleged rape that took place prior to him being in office...but since Trump was in office at the time of the alleged defamation, then Trump shouldn't be the defendant and the DOJ should.

WHAT?

Which means taxpayers foot the bill.
 

Cimarron

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Well at least we know who is urging these folks along

https://twitter.com/CREWcrew/status/1401977274212229121
How many Democrats who publicly claimed they had evidence of Trump/Russia collusion (which led to an investigation) when put under oath in truth had no evidence of collusion? All of them?