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Rob B.

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you just made all of that up, didn't you. You didn't even read the article, did you.

and, BTW.... capital letters does not make a statement true... just saying. I'm not giving my opinion, I am listing articles and actual facts. Sorry they don't align with this fiction story that you want to believe so you can prop up Sanders for the job.

with a new offense and questions at starting quarterback that weren’t answered until Cole McDonald won the job during the 43-34 victory at Colorado State to begin the season.

McDonald played sparingly last season as a redshirt freshman behind two-year starter Dru Brown, completing 5 of 9 passes for 22 yards. But Brown was one of seven players who left the program as graduate transfers (he’s now at Oklahoma State), leaving the quarterback job wide open, even as the team was learning the run-and-shoot.
Well gee whiz, I was wrong about McDonald's rs year.

Speaking of making shit up....
actually, they were a prolific passing offense with Brown being high on the Hawaii all-time passing stats in only a couple of seasons....
He's a mere 12,000 yards behind the leader...and nowhere in sight of single season or even single game leaders. Keep spinning dummy.
Rank Player Yards Years
1Timmy Chang17,0722000 2001 2002 2003 2004
2Colt Brennan14,1932005 2006 2007
3Bryant Moniz10,1692009 2010 2011
4Dan Robinson6,0381997 1998 1999
5Garrett Gabriel5,6311987 1988 1989 1990
6Dru Brown5,273[5]2016 2017
7Raphel Cherry5,0461981 1982 1983 1984
8Sean Schroeder4,838[6]2012 2013
9Gregg Tipton4,7751985 1986
10Ikaika Woolsey4,233[7]2013 2014 2015 2016

Single season Rank Player Yards Year
1Colt Brennan5,5492006
2Bryant Moniz5,0402010
3Timmy Chang4,4742002
4Colt Brennan4,3432007
5Colt Brennan4,3012005
6Timmy Chang4,2582004
7Timmy Chang4,1992003
8Cole McDonald3,8752018
9Dan Robinson3,8531999
10Nick Rolovich3,3612001

Single game Rank Player Yards Year Opponent
1Bryant Moniz560[8]2010San Jose State
2Colt Brennan559[9]2006Arizona State[10]
3Colt Brennan548[11]2007Louisiana Tech
4Colt Brennan545[12]2007San Jose State
5Nick Rolovich543[13]2001BYU
6Timmy Chang534[14]2003Louisiana Tech
7Bryant Moniz532[15]2010Louisiana Tech
8Dan Robinson530[16]1999Navy
9Colt Brennan515[17]2005New Mexico State
10Nick Rolovich5052001Air Force


 

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Well gee whiz, I was wrong about McDonald's rs year.

Speaking of making shit up....


He's a mere 12,000 yards behind the leader...and nowhere in sight of single season or even single game leaders. Keep spinning dummy.
Rank Player Yards Years
1Timmy Chang17,0722000 2001 2002 2003 2004
2Colt Brennan14,1932005 2006 2007
3Bryant Moniz10,1692009 2010 2011
4Dan Robinson6,0381997 1998 1999
5Garrett Gabriel5,6311987 1988 1989 1990
6Dru Brown5,273[5]2016 2017
7Raphel Cherry5,0461981 1982 1983 1984
8Sean Schroeder4,838[6]2012 2013
9Gregg Tipton4,7751985 1986
10Ikaika Woolsey4,233[7]2013 2014 2015 2016
Just for reference Tone Jones occupies the same position (6) on OSU's all time career passing yards list. You can be in the top 10 in yardage and still not be very good.

And also, Corndog is in our top 10 career yardage leaders despite only starting for one year.
 

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Just for reference Tone Jones occupies the same position (6) on OSU's all time career passing yards list. You can be in the top 10 in yardage and still not be very good.

And also, Corndog is in our top 10 career yardage leaders despite only starting for one year.
But...but Phil, Dru Brown led a prolific passing attack in his 2 years at Hawaii without sniffing 3,000 yards either year. ;)
 
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2700 yards is prolific? Drop the shovel you have dug deep enough.
it's top 20% in the country... seriously, your position is now down to semantics?

that season was under a 1st year HC, with a team that had lots of moral issues.

....has started 22 straight games, tied for the third-longest streak in UH history...sits number six on UH’s all-time career passing yards list with 5,273 yards...sits number eight on UH’s all-time career total offense list with 5,586 yards.
 
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Just for reference Tone Jones occupies the same position (6) on OSU's all time career passing yards list. You can be in the top 10 in yardage and still not be very good.

And also, Corndog is in our top 10 career yardage leaders despite only starting for one year.
I loved Tone Jones.... he was simply on some bad teams.

corndog got some NFL attention

I don't think you're making a very good point.... but no matter

I can't wait for the season to get here

Go Pokes
 

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it's top 20% in the country... seriously, your position is now down to semantics?

that season was under a 1st year HC, with a team that had lots of moral issues.

....has started 22 straight games, tied for the third-longest streak in UH history...sits number six on UH’s all-time career passing yards list with 5,273 yards...sits number eight on UH’s all-time career total offense list with 5,586 yards.
Top 20%? In Brown's BEST year at Hawaii they ranked 71st nationally in passing offense. 71st out of 130 FBS teams. I'm no mathematician but that sure looks like bottom half of FBS to me.

Now if you're trying to say he was in the top 20% of all players nationally that's probably true. But only if you include all the back up QBs that got some run in mop up duty or filling in a few games for injured starters and the random non-QB players who threw a pass on trick plays. For players with at least 200 attempts (note Brown had over 400) Brown was 48th out of 112. Also not top 20%.
 

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it's top 20% in the country... seriously, your position is now down to semantics?

that season was under a 1st year HC, with a team that had lots of moral issues.

....has started 22 straight games, tied for the third-longest streak in UH history...sits number six on UH’s all-time career passing yards list with 5,273 yards...sits number eight on UH’s all-time career total offense list with 5,586 yards.
And the guy following him had 3900 yards passing last year.
You will have to supply evidence that 2800 yards passing is top 20% in D1 football for 2017. I’ll wait here for supporting documents.
Brown’s numbers are average nothing more nothing less. Being sixth on that list means nothing. In 25 games he passed for 5273 yards and 62% completion. He could be number 1 on Hawaii’s list still doesn’t change the stats.
Your misguided post won’t change those stats.
You’re next conceptually challenged post won’t change those stats.
 
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If Sanders was ready he would have already been named the starter and first games being away at Oregon State I believe Brown will start that game. I don’t believe Sanders is ready yet to take over the helm.
 

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If Sanders was ready he would have already been named the starter and first games being away at Oregon State I believe Brown will start that game. I don’t believe Sanders is ready yet to take over the helm.
Somehow not naming him the starter yet seems like just the kind of thing that Gundy would do to motivate him to work harder over the summer. Not sure I would come to the conclusions you did earlier just based off of that. Got anything else to back those up?
 
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Somehow not naming him the starter yet seems like just the kind of thing that Gundy would do to motivate him to work harder over the summer. Not sure I would come to the conclusions you did earlier just based off of that. Got anything else to back those up?
Seems that Sanders was either the top ranked player or QB his senior year in the State of Texas and basically could have gone anywhere. I believe he committed to OSU early and Yurcich recruited him. Now Yurcich is gone and rarely do you hear much in the media about Sanders now. If Sanders was as good as expected there would be no questions or threads about who the starter would be.
 

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Seems that Sanders was either the top ranked player or QB his senior year in the State of Texas and basically could have gone anywhere. I believe he committed to OSU early and Yurcich recruited him. Now Yurcich is gone and rarely do you hear much in the media about Sanders now. If Sanders was as good as expected there would be no questions or threads about who the starter would be.
This is very flawed reasoning.
 
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It's summer and we are talking about how bad both of our potential QB's are to prop up the other, questioning leadership and experience. All QB's are leaders, that's the reason they choose or are chosen to be QB's. Some are better than others without question but they all have lead a team and are coached to do so. Competition is what makes guys better, makes them work harder and push each other. I bet there is no one in the QB room that doesn't think they're best option to be the starter and that is how it's supposed to be. I will be so happy when fall practice begins and I would bet that Gundy won't publicly announce a starter till maybe a week before the first game unless there is some major separation over the summer, but he probably has a really good idea who will be taking the most snaps with the 1's.
 
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Seems that Sanders was either the top ranked player or QB his senior year in the State of Texas and basically could have gone anywhere. I believe he committed to OSU early and Yurcich recruited him. Now Yurcich is gone and rarely do you hear much in the media about Sanders now. If Sanders was as good as expected there would be no questions or threads about who the starter would be.
I think they are still considered 1st year players till fall camp rolls around since that's when they started with the team officially. 1st year players aren't allowed to talk to the media and maybe that's why you haven't heard much about them. Not sure but i don't think I've seen either interviewed yet.
 

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I think they are still considered 1st year players till fall camp rolls around since that's when they started with the team officially. 1st year players aren't allowed to talk to the media and maybe that's why you haven't heard much about them. Not sure but i don't think I've seen either interviewed yet.
Plus combine that with a brand new OC and things really start over. Though I doubt we have an overhaul of our offense it will be different and I am sure that means they need more time to see which QB will do better in the new offense.
 

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it's top 20% in the country... seriously, your position is now down to semantics?

that season was under a 1st year HC, with a team that had lots of moral issues.

....has started 22 straight games, tied for the third-longest streak in UH history...sits number six on UH’s all-time career passing yards list with 5,273 yards...sits number eight on UH’s all-time career total offense list with 5,586 yards.
 

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I don’t know much about the situation this upcoming year, but Gundy’s handling of QB’s in the past makes me a little uneasy.

That said I thought Cornelius did ok last year. Our D sucked, again, especially in the first half of the season..
FIFY. It was much better toward the end of the season after it gelled.
 
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