West Virginia GOP poster.

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cowboyinexile

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That's racist as shit.

The WAPO article was behind a paywall but I'm guessing the gist is someone compared a Muslim congresswomen to the 911 terrorists because they practice the same faith.
 

bleedinorange

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Ok

The poster is calling a member of Congress a terrorist because of her faith.

Should we insinuate Southern Baptist congressmen are rapists by making posters with them, Art Briles and saying "you know they really liked it"? Cause it's the same thing
This is one of the dumbest, most irrelevant posts to a subject I've seen in a while. Try again, next time with coherence.
 

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Muslim isn't a race.
Ok

The poster is calling a member of Congress a terrorist because of her faith.

Should we insinuate Southern Baptist congressmen are rapists by making posters with them, Art Briles and saying "you know they really liked it"? Cause it's the same thing
Not because of her faith, because of her words. Look up some of the stuff that her and her friends say about killing Jews, etc.. she sympathises with terrorists.

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That's racist as shit.

The WAPO article was behind a paywall but I'm guessing the gist is someone compared a Muslim congresswomen to the 911 terrorists because they practice the same faith.
Dang nabit. No idea why there's a pay wall there. Try this.

Chaos, injury and a resignation result after a poster linking Rep. Omar to 9-11 is shown on WV House floor
March 2, 2019 Frieda Powers Print Article

A confrontation erupted in the West Virginia statehouse when the state Republican Party allegedly displayed an anti-Muslim poster linking to Rep. Ilhan Omar.

One injury, the potential of disciplinary action against a Democratic member and the resignation of one official followed the confrontation over the poster which, as part of “WV GOP Day,” was displayed in the state Capitol rotunda Friday, WSAZ reported.

The poster depicted an image of the World Trade Center in New York City in flames on 9/11 above a picture of Omar, the freshman Minnesota Democrat who is a Muslim.

“‘Never forget’ – you said. . .” the caption on the upper image read. “I am the proof – you have forgotten,” read the caption under the hijab-wearing congresswoman’s photo.

The poster stirred controversy in the West Virginia House of Delegates and a story on the incident by NBC News was linked in a tweet by Omar, one of the first two female Muslim members of Congress.

She added another tweet showing a photo from an Instagram post noting a handwritten “Assassinate Ilhan Omar” allegedly written on a bathroom wall.

Democratic Del. Mike Pushkin took to the West Virginia House floor to slam the poster which was one of many others displayed outside the House of Delegates chamber as part of a “Republicans Take the Rotunda” event.

“It’s ugly, it’s hateful and there’s absolutely no place for it in American politics,” Pushkin said, according to WVNews. “Not in the country that I love. Not in the state that I love. We all give up our time during this time of year to come up here and serve our constituents because we love this state. Well, I love everybody in the state no matter what they look like, who they pray to, who they love. I’m tired of it. It disgusts me.”

An argument with the House’s sergeant at arms, Anne Lieberman, broke out after objections to the display from several Democrats and following an alleged anti-Muslim remark.

“The sergeant of arms of this body had the nerve to say to us ‘all Muslims are terrorists’ that’s beyond shameful and that’s beyond freedom of speech,” Democratic Del. Michael Angelucci said.according to WSAZ.

Lieberman, who became the state’s first female sergeant at arms last year, initially denied making the comment but submitted her resignation, “effective immediately,” by the end of the day, according to West Virginia Public Broadcasting.

The House Rules Committee was scheduled to meet Saturday morning to discuss possible disciplinary action against Democratic Del. Mike Caputo who allegedly injured a doorkeeper, who was taken to the hospital, when he angrily tried to kick open the chamber doors in an outburst over the poster.

“We’ve got doorkeepers going nose to nose with members, Sergeant at Arms going nose to nose with members. We have created an anger that I’ve never witnessed in 23 years in this body and it sickens me. It absolutely sickens me. But, yeah I, kicked that door open. I’ll own it,” Caputo, the minority whip in the House, said.

“I did and I said some things that I don’t normally say. So, the point should be that we shouldn’t do what’s going on outside here. Whether it’s the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, there’s no place for that,” he added.


(File Photo: screenshot)
Republican Del. Dianna Graves was one of several members who invoked the First Amendment right to free speech in addressing the controversy from the House floor.

“My issue with what I saw outside has to do with another truly American foundational issue and that’s freedom of speech. So, while I may not agree with everything that is out there, I do agree that freedom of speech is something that we have to protect, even if we don’t agree with it. Maybe especially when we don’t agree with it,” Graves said.

Republican Del. Tom Bibby concurred but urged the lawmakers move on to other business, saying, “Freedom of speech is very dear and near to me. Let’s hold it all within the House and, Mr. Speaker, we’ve got lots to do today. Let’s move on.”

Pushkin, who is Jewish, had cited other forms of hate speech, notably “in the early ’30s in Germany,” which caused him to be bothered by the GOP display.

“I would fight for anybody’s right in here to say whatever they want, no matter how stupid it is. I believe in the freedom of speech with every ounce of me. I’m a strong supporter of the First Amendment. I would never ask somebody to take something down. I rose to condemn it, and I would hope you would, too,” he said.

House Speaker Roger Hanshaw called on the delegates to show each other more respect.

“We owe it to our selves, we owe it to our constituents, we owe it to men and women and children and families that we represent to do better than we are,” the Republican said.

West Virginia State Senate President Mitch Carmichael called the behavior on display Friday “hateful and wrong” in a statement, according to WSAZ.

“The West Virginia Senate is a body that embraces the goodness in all people and celebrates the unique diversity of those who call this great nation of ours home,” Carmichael said. “We must be strong in our resolve to stand up and speak out against fear and hatred when we see it, and we absolutely condemn the kind of behavior that was on display in our own State Capitol. It is hateful and wrong. Above all, it is not representative of the values that the vast majority of West Virginians hold dear. We, as a state, are far better than what we saw today.”
 
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If Ilhan Omar represents all muslims, then yes this is an attack and an insult to all muslims.


I’d like to believe most muslims are way better than her. She is trash.
 

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If this member of Congress has in fact advocated wiping Israel off the map, then is that what is now supposed to be the accepted, peaceful, moderate sect of Islam? Or should we consider it a more radical and dangerous view. Just a thought.
 

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Ok

The poster is calling a member of Congress a terrorist because of her faith.

Should we insinuate Southern Baptist congressmen are rapists by making posters with them, Art Briles and saying "you know they really liked it"? Cause it's the same thing
not so fast my friend...... the Bible does not tell Baptist's to rape people..... the Koran does tell Muslims to kill infidels.

let's at least have an honest discussion
 

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not so fast my friend...... the Bible does not tell Baptist's to rape people..... the Koran does tell Muslims to kill infidels.

let's at least have an honest discussion
No, just to commit genocide:
"And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." 1 Samuel 15:3

According to the author of 1 Samuel, Saul didn't follow this command, which was one of the reasons God chose David instead.

Honesty is always good, right?
 
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CaliforniaCowboy

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No, just to commit genocide:
"And utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them," God says through the prophet Samuel. "But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." 1 Samuel 15:3

According to the author of 1 Samuel, Saul didn't follow this command, which was one of the reasons God chose David instead.
my gosh... more misquoting of the Bible.

First, there is NO CORRELATION between that biblical passage about ONE EVENT, and the Kuran which is an open and ongoing invitation to kill all infidels. The passages are not even remotely similar.

Second, you are likely misinterpreting the biblical passage for your own evil purposes.

Amalek is a symbol in a prophetic history of Israel. And we must read the intention of the author to be to use Amalek as a symbolic character in order to make a point.

Amalek in the story of 1 Samuel 15 is a prophetic symbol of the enemies of Israel. God needs evil to be destroyed. If we try to keep it for ourselves, it will destroy us (and so later in the story, Saul’s Amalekite shield bearer kills him).

Who knows whether or not this event actually happened.

Much of the bible is not intended to be read literally, and are simply stories and parables, that make a point.
 

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my gosh... more misquoting of the Bible.

First, there is NO CORRELATION between that biblical passage about ONE EVENT, and the Kuran which is an open and ongoing invitation to kill all infidels. The passages are not even remotely similar.

Second, you are likely misinterpreting the biblical passage for your own evil purposes.

Amalek is a symbol in a prophetic history of Israel. And we must read the intention of the author to be to use Amalek as a symbolic character in order to make a point.

Amalek in the story of 1 Samuel 15 is a prophetic symbol of the enemies of Israel. God needs evil to be destroyed. If we try to keep it for ourselves, it will destroy us (and so later in the story, Saul’s Amalekite shield bearer kills him).

Who knows whether or not this event actually happened.

Much of the bible is not intended to be read literally, and are simply stories and parables, that make a point.
It is literally a direct quote from the Bible. They are very similar passages in their commands to destroy those that oppose God and his people. It is an uncomfortable passage for most 21st century Christians, as it has genocidal implications. There are several primary opinions on the passage:
1) God commands Saul to commit genocide, God is perfect and his judgement is perfect. They deserved it with their hostility and centuries long opposition to God's will.
2) Similar to the above, however, he would not command anything similar today. His punishment is more or less culturally appropriate for its time.
3) This passage is evidence of the author injecting his own imperfect thoughts and opinions into the text.

As usual, you appear with some crackpot theory that has no hermeneutical basis. Try again.
 

CaliforniaCowboy

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It is literally a direct quote from the Bible. They are very similar passages in their commands to destroy those that oppose God and his people. It is an uncomfortable passage for most 21st century Christians, as it has genocidal implications. There are several primary opinions on the passage:
1) God commands Saul to commit genocide, God is perfect and his judgement is perfect. They deserved it with their hostility and centuries long opposition to God's will.
2) Similar to the above, however, he would not command anything similar today. His punishment is more or less culturally appropriate for its time.
3) This passage is evidence of the author injecting his own imperfect thoughts and opinions into the text.

As usual, you appear with some crackpot theory that has no hermeneutical basis. Try again.
nope... you do not understand the Bible.... sorry to be the one to have to break the news to you.

"literally a direct quote"... doesn't actually mean anything, nor does it detract from what I posted.

I can literally give you a direct quote from any parable, any story, and even something of pure fiction... but a literal quote, does not make the event true, it simply makes it a literal quote.... sorry, that's just not how it works.