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Binman4OSU

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The most telling thing to me is that the first CIA director Roscoe Hillenkoetter wrote to a letter in Congress in 1960 saying
"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense."
 
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Strange radio bursts from space come in clusters: study

By Marlowe Hood1 hour ago


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The Arecibo radio telescope, pictured on July 2, 2003 (AFP Photo/)
Paris (AFP) - Mysterious and powerful radio waves from deep space are coming in clusters, scientists revealed on Wednesday, having only discovered their existence a decade ago.


The repeated pulses emanate from well beyond the edge of the Milky Way Galaxy, according to a study published in the journal Nature.

It was previously thought that these so-called fast radio bursts (FRBs) -- which can emit as much energy in a millisecond as the Sun emits in 10,000 years -- were one-off phenomena.

Less than 20 have been detected since 2007, though more than 10,000 are suspected to occur every day.

Their origins remain unknown. Up to now, astronomers speculated that they were produced by cataclysmic events such as stars exploding into a supernovas, or neutron stars collapsing into black holes.

But none of these scenarios are consistent with multiple pulses, leaving scientists at a loss as to how to interpret the new data.

Peter Scholz, a graduate student at the McGill Space Institute at McGill University in Montreal and a co-author of the paper, discovered evidence of the bursts in November while sifting through data gathered by the Arecibo telescope in Puerto Rico.

"I knew immediately that the discovery would be extremely important in the study of FRBs," Scholz said in a statement.

The telescope, the largest of its kind, had picked up a total of 10 radio wave pulses, all grouped within the space of a minute.

"Not only did these bursts repeat, but their brightness and spectra also differ from those of other FRBs," said Laura Spitler, lead author and a researcher at the Max Planck Institute for Radio Astronomy in Bonn, Germany.

The latest findings appear to be at odds with research published only last week in Nature that concluded that FRBs are generated by one-off cataclysms.

But it is now thought that there could be two or more sources for frequent radio bursts.

The researchers speculated that multiple pulses could come from an "exotic object" such as a hugely powerful, rotating neutron star.

Locating the galaxy from which the serial burst came would be "critical to understanding its properties," said Jason Hessels, a co-author of the study and a professor at the University of Amsterdam.

Pinpointing the source could also tell astronomers how long it took for the waves to reach Earth, a voyage likely measured in billions of light years.

Comparing theoretical travel time in a vacuum with actual travel time could shed light on the distribution of matter in the universe.
 

Binman4OSU

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So SETI has a big announcement or something going on tomorrow.

They tweeted this out this morning

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The website listed is a SETI owned website

http://is-life-everywhere.org/?utm_...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

which goes to a place holder that says to check back tomorrow.

SETI is a highly respected organization which is subcontracted out and has ran numerous projects and held many contracts for the US Govt, NASA, JPL, US Military etc etc etc for decades and decades.

The organization operates in 3 areas.

Astrobiology trying to find evidence of microbial life on Mars through study of the atmosphere and landscapes of the planet and its moors with state of the art equipment

A non stop search for radio or light emissions from planets in the galaxies that would only exist in the presence of technically sophisticated beings

Education engagement to get young kids interested in space based sciences and training public school teachers in STEM subject areas
 
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Binman4OSU

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well the website now has a Directive shall we call it of what activities should take place following the credible detection of confirmed Extraterrestrial Intelligence

They set out an agreement of how, what they would and how they would disseminate information about the detection of extraterrestrial intelligence

saying

We, the institutions and individuals participating in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence,

Recognizing that the search for extraterrestrial intelligence is an integral part of space exploration and is being undertaken for peaceful purposes and for the common interest of all mankind,

Inspired by the profound significance for mankind of detecting evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence, even though the probability of detection may be low,

Recalling the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies, which commits States Parties to that Treaty "to inform the Secretary General of the United Nations as well as the public and the international scientific community, to the greatest extent feasible and practicable, of the nature, conduct, locations and results" of their space exploration activities (Article XI),

Recognizing that any initial detection may be incomplete or ambiguous and thus require careful examination as well as confirmation, and that it is essential to maintain the highest standards of scientific responsibility and credibility,

Agree to observe the following principles for disseminating information about the detection of extraterrestrial intelligence:


They they list their principles

  1. Any individual, public or private research institution, or governmental agency that believes it has detected a signal from or other evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence (the discoverer) should seek to verify that the most plausible explanation for the evidence is the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence rather than some other natural phenomenon or anthropogenic phenomenon before making any public announcement. If the evidence cannot be confirmed as indicating the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence, the discoverer may disseminate the information as appropriate to the discovery of any unknown phenomenon.

  2. Prior to making a public announcement that evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence has been detected, the discoverer should promptly inform all other observers or research organizations that are parties to this declaration, so that those other parties may seek to confirm the discovery by independent observations at other sites and so that a network can be established to enable continuous monitoring of the signal or phenomenon. Parties to this declaration should not make any public announcement of this information until it is determined whether this information is or is not credible evidence of the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence. The discoverer should inform his/her or its relevant national authorities.

  3. After concluding that the discovery appears to be credible evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence, and after informing other parties to this declaration, the discoverer should inform observers throughout the world through the Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams of the International Astronomical Union, and should inform the Secretary General of the United Nations in accordance with Article XI of the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Bodies. Because of their demonstrated interest in and expertise concerning the question of the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence, the discoverer should simultaneously inform the following international institutions of the discovery and should provide them with all pertinent data and recorded information concerning the evidence: the International Telecommunication Union, the Committee on Space Research, of the International Council of Scientific Unions, the International Astronautical Federation, the International Academy of Astronautics, the International Institute of Space Law, Commission 51 of the International Astronomical Union and Commission J of the International Radio Science Union.

  4. A confirmed detection of extraterrestrial intelligence should be disseminated promptly, openly, and widely through scientific channels and public media, observing the procedures in this declaration. The discoverer should have the privilege of making the first public announcement.

  5. All data necessary for confirmation of detection should be made available to the international scientific community through publications, meetings, conferences, and other appropriate means.

  6. The discovery should be confirmed and monitored and any data bearing on the evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence should be recorded and stored permanently to the greatest extent feasible and practicable, in a form that will make it available for further analysis and interpretation. These recordings should be made available to the international institutions listed above and to members of the scientific community for further objective analysis and interpretation.

  7. If the evidence of detection is in the form of electromagnetic signals, the parties to this declaration should seek international agreement to protect the appropriate frequencies by exercising procedures available through the International Telecommunication Union. Immediate notice should be sent to the Secretary General of the ITU in Geneva, who may include a request to minimize transmissions on the relevant frequencies in the Weekly Circular. The Secretariat, in conjunction with advice of the Union's Administrative Council, should explore the feasibility and utility of convening an Extraordinary Administrative Radio Conference to deal with the matter, subject to the opinions of the member Administrations of the ITU.

  8. No response to a signal or other evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence should be sent until appropriate international consultations have taken place. The procedures for such consultations will be the subject of a separate agreement, declaration or arrangement.

  9. The SETI Committee of the International Academy of Astronautics, in coordination with Commission 51 of the International Astronomical Union, will conduct a continuing review of procedures for the detection of extraterrestrial intelligence and the subsequent handling of the data. Should credible evidence of extraterrestrial intelligence be discovered, an international committee of scientists and other experts should be established to serve as a focal point for continuing analysis of all observational evidence collected in the aftermath of the discovery, and also to provide advice on the release of information to the public. This committee should be constituted from representatives of each of the international institutions listed above and such other members as the committee may deem necessary. To facilitate the convocation of such a committee at some unknown time in the future, the SETI Committee of the International Academy of Astronautics should initiate and maintain a current list of willing representatives from each of the international institutions listed above, as well as other individuals with relevant skills, and should make that list continuously available through the Secretariat of the International Academy of Astronautics. The International Academy of Astronautics will act as the Depository for this declaration and will annually provide a current list of parties to all the parties to this declaration.
 
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I thought most law enforcement and fire departments had procedures on how to handle finding an et? Ghost Adventures investigated a place called stardust ranch on last nights episode. It is suppose to be a ufo hotspot I guess.
 
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We just got even weirder results about the 'alien megastructure' star


Something strange is definitely going on.


FIONA MACDONALD
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Last year, the world freaked out over the discovery of a star that was dimming and flickering so erratically, it couldn't be explained by any known natural phenomenon - prompting one scientist to actually go there and suggest it could be evidence of some kind of alien megastructure.

Follow-up studies have revealed no signs of alien behaviour, but NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has just spent around 1,600 days observing the star, and things have gotten a lot weirder.














That doesn't mean we have any more evidence for the alien megastructure hypothesis - the internet-backed idea that an advanced civilisation is building something giant, like a hypothetical Dyson sphere, around the star to harvest its energy.

But what it does suggest is that something's going on around the star that we've never seen anywhere in the cosmos before - most likely a combination of strange phenomena.

The Kepler data in the latest study was analysed by two Caltech scientists to get an understanding of how the star changed in brightness over the more than four years the telescope was pointed in its direction.
 

Binman4OSU

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Aug 31, 2007
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We just got even weirder results about the 'alien megastructure' star


Something strange is definitely going on.


FIONA MACDONALD
6 AUG 2016
Last year, the world freaked out over the discovery of a star that was dimming and flickering so erratically, it couldn't be explained by any known natural phenomenon - prompting one scientist to actually go there and suggest it could be evidence of some kind of alien megastructure.

Follow-up studies have revealed no signs of alien behaviour, but NASA's Kepler Space Telescope has just spent around 1,600 days observing the star, and things have gotten a lot weirder.














That doesn't mean we have any more evidence for the alien megastructure hypothesis - the internet-backed idea that an advanced civilisation is building something giant, like a hypothetical Dyson sphere, around the star to harvest its energy.

But what it does suggest is that something's going on around the star that we've never seen anywhere in the cosmos before - most likely a combination of strange phenomena.

The Kepler data in the latest study was analysed by two Caltech scientists to get an understanding of how the star changed in brightness over the more than four years the telescope was pointed in its direction.
That paper is interesting.....No known stellar phenomenon known to man at this time to explain what is being observed
 

UrbanCowboy1

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Probably just a dirty lens on the telescope.
I know you jest, but this reminds me of one of my favorite stories in the history of science.

In the 1960's in New Jersey, two astrophysicists wanted to exam radio waves from distant galaxies, but they kept getting interference. They figured it was a local problem, maybe coming from nearby new york. It wasn't. so they thought maybe something was wrong with their processing equipment. It wasn't. They even checked the satellite dish for bird crap and got on their hands and knees and cleaned the entire thing out over the course of days. Still had the interference.

Turns out what they were hearing was the universe itself. They had inadvertently proved the big bang theory by accidentally discovering cosmic background radiation, which was the leftover noise from the beginning of the space/time.

There wasn't anything wrong with their equipment or readings. The answer was right in front of them the whole time.