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Checks and balances are hilarious.
Hey I'm happy to see Congress try to retake some of the authority they have willingly ceded over the decades. I just think it's funny because they are doing it with Trump even though past presidents have been far more hawkish and deserving of this.....in other words it's political theater.

What I find most disturbing is the belief that they'll willingly give this power back up once Trump is out of office.
 

NotOnTV

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Hey I'm happy to see Congress try to retake some of the authority they have willingly ceded over the decades. I just think it's funny because they are doing it with Trump even though past presidents have been far more hawkish and deserving of this.....in other words it's political theater.

What I find most disturbing is the belief that they'll willingly give this power back up once Trump is out of office.
They might.
 

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Hey I'm happy to see Congress try to retake some of the authority they have willingly ceded over the decades. I just think it's funny because they are doing it with Trump even though past presidents have been far more hawkish and deserving of this.....in other words it's political theater.

What I find most disturbing is the belief that they'll willingly give this power back up once Trump is out of office.
Who was more hawkish on Iran? Reagan who sold them weapons? Obama who brought them to the nuclear deal table with pallets of cash?
 

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So does the measure limit just Trump or will it apply to future presidents as well?
I cannot imagine that the measure names the current president specifically but it is pretty fascinating that every single news article models this as "congress restraining president Trump" instead of "congress restraining the powers of the presidency." Every single one that I saw of about 20.
 

SLVRBK

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Hey I'm happy to see Congress try to retake some of the authority they have willingly ceded over the decades. I just think it's funny because they are doing it with Trump even though past presidents have been far more hawkish and deserving of this.....in other words it's political theater.

What I find most disturbing is the belief that they'll willingly give this power back up once Trump is out of office.
There is some legal thought that the Congress doesn't have the constitutional authority to limit POTUS war powers, the WP Act has never been tested in court.

In general the idea is that, yes, Congress has the power to declare war but only POTUS has the power to make war. Therefore, as Commander in Chief he can commit troops anytime he sees fit in defense of America or our Allies and the only power Congress has is the power or the purse to defund the action. Neither side really wants the WP Act to go to court so this is why we see AUMF's to fund military action rather than declarations of war, Congress approves the funding but can remove it if deemed necessary.
 

Deere Poke

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I expect Dems will now challenge the President's power to NOT wage war.
Now the law gets to be challenged in court. There are a lot of people who believe the original law may be overturned and ruled unconstitutional. Which could end up granting the President even more military powers. Pretty dumb move by the 8 republicans that voted for this if their true objective was to limit a Presidents military powers. Everyone had pretty much agreed to play by the rules of the law which was written in 74 and not challenge it.