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ksupoke

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The Ocasio-Cortez Thread



Huh? I have zero emotion attached to this topic. Just trying to point out the cycle of outrage and find it funny that no one can admit it. There is a steady stream of knock out humor on the left right now because we have a Republican president. But the "outrage" from the Right is just as funny when there's a Democrat in the White House. The two sides literally switch depending on who the POTUS is.
Not really there is always a bit of lunacy during a potus cycle but the left has taken it to a whole new level since the emboldening days of bho, point of fact, bho wasn’t left enough for them so they protested him, bernie isn’t left enough for many so they protest him, the entertainment value, for me, is off the charts.
In terms of emotional attachment, perhaps I’ve misunderstood but several times you’ve read the first part of my post and reacted (that’s emotion) and either not read the rest, ignored it or read something into it. That’s why it looks like you’ve got an emotional attachment again that might be misunderstanding.



That's freakin' hilarious and I would love to get my hands on one of those hats.

zazzle.com she designed it, it has small American flags over both ears and a small Betsy Ross flag on the back.
I’ll take a look at page 56 but a pre warning if it’s a response to that moron herself, it’s highly likely I’ll find it more interesting than funny, unlike most on both sides in DC who are not idiots they are simply corrupt and can only keep their jobs by continuing to be corrupt, aoc, bernie, and ‘the squad’ truly are idiots.
Folks who support them aren’t necessarily idiots but they are gullible, handout seeking loafers.
 

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I’ll take a look at page 56 but a pre warning if it’s a response to that moron herself, it’s highly likely I’ll find it more interesting than funny, unlike most on both sides in DC who are not idiots they are simply corrupt and can only keep their jobs by continuing to be corrupt, aoc, bernie, and ‘the squad’ truly are idiots.
Folks who support them aren’t necessarily idiots but they are gullible, handout seeking loafers.
And I have the emotional attachment....
 

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And I have the emotional attachment....
That’s not emotional that’s an accurate observation. aae Feinstein, corrupt not an idiot, McCain corrupt not an idiot, bho corrupt not an idiot, Bush jr corrupt, hung jury ;)
Aoc and the like have proven they are both corrupt and idiots, that is unless you think we need to curb cow farts.

I have to go walk Major Tom and pi$$ off a few lefties, I’ll check back in later. :innocent:
 

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Ok I looked, those posts are funny and they are spot on, her campaign is crooked and a farce and she is an idiot who should have stayed flashing boobs as a bartender.
And my point is a Lefty could say, "Those posts are funny and they are spot on, his campaign is crooked and a farce and he is an idiot who should have stayed on reality television."

Neither of you are right or wrong. It's all an opinion. You think one is funny based on your opinion and biases and a Lefty will think the other is funny because of their opinion and biases. It's all bullshit.
 

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And my point is a Lefty could say, "Those posts are funny and they are spot on, his campaign is crooked and a farce and he is an idiot who should have stayed on reality television."

Neither of you are right or wrong. It's all an opinion. You think one is funny based on your opinion and biases and a Lefty will think the other is funny because of their opinion and biases. It's all bullshit.
actually... there is a right and a wrong... and it goes well beyond "opinion".

Socialism is wrong (AOC)... Nationalism (Trump) is "opposed", but is not necessarily wrong.
 

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that graph is pretty interesting.... the market didn't do much for decades between 55-85, then once Reagans policies and economy took hold, it climbed like crazy until Slick Willy finally stopped it with his dotCom crash and high taxes...

this chart doesn't show it, but hopefully we're in for another steep climb once Trump gets this trade deals worked out and cuts payroll taxes again.
Once the policies of not giving a crap about federal budgets came in to play under Reagan in the 1980s the stock market really took off with all that spending of other people's money. And, yep, as you can easily see when under Clinton we briefly turned of the spigot of free spending of government money the market pulled back.
But, you are right, with Trump showing no caution at all and running absolutely massive federal deficits despite a booming economy which should be reining them in, I'm sure the spend/spend/spend government will keep the stock market running until they have spent all of the our future's citizens money.

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And my point is a Lefty could say, "Those posts are funny and they are spot on, his campaign is crooked and a farce and he is an idiot who should have stayed on reality television."

Neither of you are right or wrong. It's all an opinion. You think one is funny based on your opinion and biases and a Lefty will think the other is funny because of their opinion and biases. It's all bullshit.
There are opinions and there are facts, Trump, regardless of what you think of him is not an idiot, has he said things that I’d consider idiotic, sure but he’s not an idiot. The squad are idiots, they’ve proven devoid of even a basic understanding of the document which they took an oath to uphold. Cali said it better than I can, nationalism can be debated to a degree but if you accept the Constitution as the supreme law of the land (this would mean your allegiance lies with the US and you are an American, regardless of birth) then it’s not wrong. OTOH using that same foundation it’s clear that socialism is wrong however I’m also pragmatic enough to acknowledge that elements of socialist programs have infiltrated our republic to the point it would be nigh on impossible to take them away.

I agree with your comment on it all being bs to a point, if my opinion is you’re a handout seeking louse, that’s all it is, if through your actions and words you prove that’s what you are it’s not an opinion and no longer bs, it’s an accurate description, those I’ve mentioned have proven themselves to be just that.

The problem I see is that the ‘normal’ for democrats is more of this (antifa pu$$ies and others who support the idea that I owe them something) than the Tsongas, Mondale, even the old Schumer wasn’t this far left. I watched an interview with Willie Brown he’s a democrats democrat, he is shocked and saddened by where the democrats have gone a similar sentiment I’ve had about republicans, mainly fiscal and foreign policy related. I’m stuck i can’t be a lefty because outside of decriminalizing drugs and overhauling the cjs they don’t stand for anything I agree with, mainly because they’re lazy and believe the taxpayer owes them comfort and they don’t support the Constitution, I can’t be a republican because I abhor their record on fiscal and foreign policy and I can’t be a Libertarian because a ‘true’ Scotsman doesn’t acknowledge a central law of any kind, ie the Constitution.

It’s funny since gbsr was in office, there’s a corner outside of the B&N in Walnut Creek and virtually every weekend you could count on the Lyndon larouche loonies to have a large poster of whomever the potus was with a pencil mustache and a mushroom cloud, the obvious meaning was that they were Hitler and would start wwiii. B&N is gone but the corner now has a Democrat group with a picture of Trump with a pencil mustache & a mushroom cloud and has been there since his election almost every weekend. I haven’t been there since last October, I’m hoping to get up there next time my wife is able to visit, I’m going to wear my hat and my 2nd amendment t-shirt, I enjoy seeing if I can provoke someone into a rational conversation and if not well the tears will suffice.

So I just sit back and enjoy the show and vote for whomever is closest to my ideology and wants the least of my money, but as I’ve mentioned elsewhere we all have windmills to slay so even at that there’s a bit of hypocrisy on my part.
I’m glad we can discuss this without devolving into dic@ measuring and insults. I’ve never thought of you as extreme just a touch misguided from time to time ;):)
 
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In terms of the market growth, I’d suggest looking at the history of individual retirement accounts as the foundation for its growth since the 70’s.
This was the first ‘real’ time the average American cared about the DJI or the DJT.

50's - about 4% of the working public owned stock
late 70's after the advent of the individual retirement account and what it spawned - 15%
Clinton era - 50%
during the gbjr era it peaked at about 65% and post recession it now sits at about 55% and is on the way back up

follow that trend and you can follow the volatility of the market, again, people are irrational, markets are rational, more to the point, the number of the top 20% of earners who own stock has only varied from about 85% to 95% since the gbjr era that number now sits around 92%, a lot of money was there to be made and it was.
 
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Once the policies of not giving a crap about federal budgets came in to play under Reagan in the 1980s the stock market really took off with all that spending of other people's money. And, yep, as you can easily see when under Clinton we briefly turned of the spigot of free spending of government money the market pulled back.
But, you are right, with Trump showing no caution at all and running absolutely massive federal deficits despite a booming economy which should be reining them in, I'm sure the spend/spend/spend government will keep the stock market running until they have spent all of the our future's citizens money.

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I think that you are over simplifying things by a whole lot, for starters, I am not for more government spending, and prefer a balanced budget (any budget would be a huge start).

Second, that period that you're referencing just happened to coincide with the baby boomers starting to leave the work force and draw on all those benefits from Presidents PRIOR TO Reagan... but apparently all the President's from Reagan on, are going to get blamed for bad government spending, when most of it is on socialist programs that they had nothing to do with.
 

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That’s not emotional that’s an accurate observation. aae Feinstein, corrupt not an idiot, McCain corrupt not an idiot, bho corrupt not an idiot, Bush jr corrupt, hung jury ;)
Aoc and the like have proven they are both corrupt and idiots, that is unless you think we need to curb cow farts.

I have to go walk Major Tom and pi$$ off a few lefties, I’ll check back in later. :innocent:
Btw, the whole Cow Farts thing can be debunked by a simple study of the former great American Bison Herd's size by comparison. It's the most moronic thing the supposedly science loving left has ever come up with.
 

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Btw, the whole Cow Farts thing can be debunked by a simple study of the former great American Bison Herd's size by comparison. It's the most moronic thing the supposedly science loving left has ever come up with.
And that is saying A LOT.
 

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Anybody who thinks presidents haven't already been using the power of the executive branch to push, prod, reward, punish, limit, constrain, restrain or otherwise influence exactly who, when, what, why and where businesses do business then you haven't been paying attention. If Trump's tweet ticks you off, GOOD, it should, but please don't lose that anger when the next establishment Republican or Democrat sits in that office. Remember how upset republicans were when Obama said he had a pen and a phone....and remember how the left and the mainstream media had ZERO problem with it. Hypocrites all around. You either oppose executive overreach or you don't.....no more of this "only when the other party is in power" BS.

I do not believe that Trump has the power to follow through on this order (and as such don't take it seriously) but if it turns out that he does, it will most certainly be a power that was attained under a previous president, while we the people blissfully played angry birds instead of paying attention to our elected officials.

Also, I thought liberals hated evil corporations and wanted the government to be able to order them what to do to try and help the working class. We all know, that is exactly how the media would be spinning this if it was Obama who had said these exact words (and to be fair the Reps would oppose it).
 

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Btw, the whole Cow Farts thing can be debunked by a simple study of the former great American Bison Herd's size by comparison. It's the most moronic thing the supposedly science loving left has ever come up with.
I don't know if the science can be debunked, what I do know is cows have gas and there's nothing you can do to stop it short of killing them.

California believes they can and evidently so does aoc among others, good luck with that.

BTW read this link, I didn't make it up, I remember when it was passed (pun fully intended) I saved it to my desktop specifically due to the headline.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/cow-fart-regulation-passed-into-california-law/

Sadly this is not from a satire or off the wall site
 
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Btw, the whole Cow Farts thing can be debunked by a simple study of the former great American Bison Herd's size by comparison. It's the most moronic thing the supposedly science loving left has ever come up with.
I don't know if the science can be debunked, what I do know is cows have gas and there's nothing you can do to stop it short of killing them.

California believes they can and evidently so does aoc among others, good luck with that.

BTW read this link, I didn't make it up, I remember when it was passed (pun fully intended) I saved it to my desktop specifically due to the headline.

https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/09/19/cow-fart-regulation-passed-into-california-law/

Sadly this is not from a satire or off the wall site
But what about all the cows in other states AND countries. And moose, elk, deer, goats, etc...

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