The pathetic last ditch attempt to stop the Kavanaugh confirmation

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ramases2112

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The democrats are nothing more than a bunch of degenerate desperate liars. How low have they fallen. This bull**** is allowed to be used against Republicans (or anyone associated with them) because of the capitulation from previous attempts. Its time for Republicans to publicly call out these idiots and shame them before everyone, else this pathetic trend will continue. What a despicable act.
https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...s-silence-about-brett-kavanaugh-rape-attempt/
https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...asey-ford-donned-brain-pussy-hat-trump-march/
https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...ned-letter-fighting-trump-border-enforcement/
 
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If their is some truth to this story he did it drunk and was a minor. I call BS and desperate Dems last ditch smear and based on the lying Democrats during the hearing I think that their is no truth to this accusation. This woman will get the hero treatment by the MSM and be interview on every liberal outlet. This stinks to high heaven.
 
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I forgot to add that this is from a party that called a man who killed a woman a lion of the Senate and a deputy DNC official who is accused of committing violence against women even endorsing him in his race for attorney general of Minnesota.
 

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I do not think this is Dem driven at all. I think this is revenge driven by this lady who is accusing

https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1041686910828257280
Plus there were witnesses. For HIM and not her. The people she named as witnesses said it didn't happen.
 

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Flake, Murkowski, and Collins all are open to delaying the confirmation vote.
It may be beneficial for them to delay the vote. This lady will get destroyed quickly in court with the revenge aspect. Then Kavanaugh will fly through confirmation vote as the Dem "Trump" card of sexual misconduct will have been burnt on a person hell bent on revenge.
 

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While I don't think this will stop the confirmation, I have to hand it to the Dems. They had a crappy hand and NO leverage, but they played this card well.
 

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The woman, who said she had an unpleasant incident with Kavanaugh, should have reported it to the police, so there could be a legal record of it. Stillwater's former major was accused of groping a woman's breasts, but no legal record of the matter existed. Therefore, the mayor survived a recall vote, largely due to him having no record of illegal wrongdoing. So, I won't be surprised Kavanaugh gets enough votes to be confirmed.
 
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Feinstein, at the very least, should be reviewed by the Senate ethic panel (yes, I realize Senate ethic panel is an oxymoron).
 

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This whole thing tells us all we need to know about the Democratic leadership and how low they have sunk!
From the get-go, the Dems have advocated to waiting until the midterms for a nomination - in the hopes the senate flips utilizing a similar "elections matter" argument that the GOP did with the Obama/Garland nomination.

If Feinstein indeed did have this in the summer and sat on it until now, that is pretty masterful use of the delay tactic. They have no power right now, and IMO this is a great play of their crappy cards.

I don't think it will be effective at derailing, but it may very well delay.
 
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Feinstein, at the very least, should be reviewed by the Senate ethic panel (yes, I realize Senate ethic panel is an oxymoron).
From the get-go, the Dems have advocated to waiting until the midterms for a nomination - in the hopes the senate flips utilizing a similar "elections matter" argument that the GOP did with the Obama/Garland nomination.

If Feinstein indeed did have this in the summer and sat on it until now, that is pretty masterful use of the delay tactic. They have no power right now, and IMO this is a great play of their crappy cards.

I don't think it will be effective at derailing, but it may very well delay.
Senator Feinstein is the same Senator who had a confirmed Chinese spy working as her personal aid
for 20 years and somehow she never knew it !
 

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From National Review:

Weighing the Allegations against Brett Kavanaugh
By DAVID FRENCH
September 16, 2018 9:09 PM

They’re serious but not solid.

The allegations against Brett Kavanaugh — outlined now on the record in the Washington Post by Palo Alto University professor Christine Blasey Ford — are substantial and serious. She claims that Kavanaugh knocked her down, groped her, and attempted to remove her clothes. Here’s the core of her story:

While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.​
“I thought he might inadvertently kill me,” said Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California. “He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.”​
Ford said she was able to escape when Kavanaugh’s friend and classmate at Georgetown Preparatory School, Mark Judge, jumped on top of them, sending all three tumbling. She said she ran from the room, briefly locked herself in a bathroom and then fled the house.​

Do not count me among those who would minimize this alleged assault. I went to a high school that had more than its share of drunken parties, and my classmates could do crazy and stupid things, but an act like this was beyond the pale. This isn’t “boys will be boys.” Actions have consequences, and it’s hardly unjust to tell a person that if he mistreated another human being like this — even a long time ago — he has to remain “merely” a judge on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Since Kavanaugh has denied the story, however, the question of whether the event is so egregious that it should disqualify him is moot. At the very least, if the attack happened, he should be disqualified for lying.

Yet unless all parties start telling the same story, there is no way to know for certain if this event occurred. We don’t need certainty, however, to make a decision on whether a man should sit on the Supreme Court. I have the same standard for Brett Kavanaugh as I did for Roy Moore, for Donald Trump, for Bill Clinton — or for any other politician who’s accused of misconduct. Is it more likely than not that the allegation is true?

Given the totality of the evidence, I believe it is more likely than not that Bill Clinton committed rape and sexual harassment. I believe it is more likely than not that Donald Trump has committed sexual assault. I believe it is more likely than not that Roy Moore engaged in sexual misconduct with underage girls. But the evidence against Kavanaugh falls far short of the evidence arrayed against each of these men. So far at least it falls far short of the evidence against virtually any other politician or celebrity who has faced consequences during this #MeToo moment. Here’s why:

First, one way to help test the veracity of old claims is to ask whether there is any contemporaneous corroboration. Did the accuser tell a friend or family member or anyone about the alleged assault when it occurred? With Clinton, Trump, Moore, and many other politicians and celebrities, there was ample contemporaneous corroboration. Here, there was not. According to the Washington Post, “Ford said she told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012, when she was in couples therapy with her husband.”

That’s almost three decades of silence — three decades when memories can grow cloudy and recollections can change.

But even the allegedly corroborating notes of the therapist raise a separate problem. They actually contradict her story on a key detail. According to the Post, “The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy that Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room.” Nor do the notes mention Kavanaugh’s name, even though her husband says Ford named Kavanaugh in the sessions.

Those are important discrepancies, and if six years ago she told the therapist four men and says two men now, that suggests that her memory of the event may be suspect.

As a former trial lawyer, I can tell you that while neither notes nor memories are infallible, in a contest between contemporaneous notes and later verbal testimony about those notes, the content of the written notes usually prevails. Juries are extremely skeptical of witnesses who contradict written notes — after all, the notes are taken when the words are immediate and there isn’t the overwhelming pressure of a trial to conform your testimony to the desired outcome.

At least the investigation seems somewhat manageable. If there were only four boys there, who were the other two? Let’s hear from them. In fact, investigators should interview everyone else at the party.

Yet given all the years that have passed, would it be possible to find anyone who remembers being at that party? Would they remember any details at all? If someone saw Kavanaugh stumbling drunk at the party, that would obviously bolster Ford’s account. If another attendee says, “He was totally sober and with me the whole time,” that helps Kavanaugh. But the odds of getting details that precise are long indeed, and there is always a chance that a motivated classmate might lie — for either person.

Finally, there are no other allegations of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh. If there’s one thing we’ve seen time and again, it’s that one allegation often triggers a cascade of additional claims. There seem to be precious few men who engage in serious sexual misconduct just once. If this was the kind of behavior that Kavanaugh engaged in, then look for more people to come forward. If no one does, however, we’re left with a sole claim, made by an opposing partisan (Ford is an outspoken progressive), that Kavanaugh strenuously denies, that lacks any contemporaneous corroboration, and that is contradicted in material respects by her therapist’s own notes.

That does not add up to “more likely than not.”

But these conclusions are tentative and preliminary. The next three days are crucial. We’ll likely hear more from Ford. I expect we’ll hear more from Kavanaugh. People who were at the party may come forward with their own accounts. The news cycle is moving so fast that it seems almost absurd to speculate about the state of our knowledge even 24 hours from now, but if this is the core evidence supporting the (very serious) claim against Kavanaugh, it’s not sufficient to derail the nomination of a man with an otherwise sterling record of professional excellence and personal integrity.

DAVID FRENCH — David French is a senior writer for National Review, a senior fellow at the National Review Institute, and a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom. @davidafrench
 
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Plus there were witnesses. For HIM and not her. The people she named as witnesses said it didn't happen.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john...ter-strongly-denies-allegations-of-misconduct


The Kavanaugh classmate quoted in the New Yorker is Mark Judge, a writer in Washington, D.C. Judge spoke to THE WEEKLY STANDARD Friday afternoon, strongly denying that any such incident ever occurred. "It's just absolutely nuts. I never saw Brett act that way," Judge told TWS.