Thank you Arnold

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Rack

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While I understand Arnold's comments, him comparing the night of broken glass to this stupid unfortunate event is a big time reach...and frankly it's kind of an insult to Jews to make this nearly as big, or similar, an event.

Please. While both events are bad, these two are not slightly comparable and the level at which we are divided doesn't need to escalate because of a few idiots who did idiotic things and will serve prison time for it. It's not as IF, as it actually WAS in Arnold's example, these people are taking power.

Please educate yourself Americans...

from https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-night-of-broken-glass
"On the night of November 9, 1938, violence against Jews broke out across the Reich. It appeared to be unplanned, set off by Germans' anger over the assassination of a German official in Paris at the hands of a Jewish teenager. In fact, German propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels and other Nazis carefully organized the pogroms. In two days, over 250 synagogues were burned, over 7,000 Jewish businesses were trashed and looted, dozens of Jewish people were killed, and Jewish cemeteries, hospitals, schools, and homes were looted while police and fire brigades stood by. The pogroms became known as Kristallnacht, the "Night of Broken Glass," for the shattered glass from the store windows that littered the streets.
The morning after the pogroms 30,000 German Jewish men were arrested for the "crime" of being Jewish and sent to concentration camps
, where hundreds of them perished. Some Jewish women were also arrested and sent to local jails. Businesses owned by Jews were not allowed to reopen unless they were managed by non-Jews. Curfews were placed on Jews, limiting the hours of the day they could leave their homes.
After the "Night of Broken Glass," life was even more difficult for German and Austrian Jewish children and teenagers. Already barred from entering museums, public playgrounds, and swimming pools, now they were expelled from the public schools. Jewish youngsters, like their parents, were totally segregated in Germany. In despair, many Jewish adults committed suicide. Most families tried desperately to leave."

None of this is to downplay what happened at the capital the other night, it was an egregious offense by the POTUS to not squelch that and instead to egg it on...he's paying, and will pay for the rest of his life, the political and real cost of that very poor choice. It's just not on the same historical level as Arnold attempted to paint it, and I think that's dangerous for people like him to do. That being said, it's a mostly free country...and I like Arnold as a person and actor.
 
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Arnold gave California a wonderful gift on his way out of office as the governor of California. He helped push legislation and signed it into Law that outlawed political hacks gerrymandering voting districts. It re-shaped California representation on the state and federal level. You don’t have to be very smart to know what political party benefit the most from that.
 
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While I understand Arnold's comments, him comparing the night of broken glass to this stupid unfortunate event is a big time reach...and frankly it's kind of an insult to Jews to make this nearly as big, or similar, an event.

Please. While both events are bad, these two are not slightly comparable and the level at which we are divided doesn't need to escalate because of a few idiots who did idiotic things and will serve prison time for it. It's not as IF, as it actually WAS in Arnold's example, these people are taking power.

Please educate yourself Americans...

from https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-night-of-broken-glass
"On the night of November 9, 1938, violence against Jews broke out across the Reich. It appeared to be unplanned, set off by Germans' anger over the assassination of a German official in Paris at the hands of a Jewish teenager. In fact, German propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels and other Nazis carefully organized the pogroms. In two days, over 250 synagogues were burned, over 7,000 Jewish businesses were trashed and looted, dozens of Jewish people were killed, and Jewish cemeteries, hospitals, schools, and homes were looted while police and fire brigades stood by. The pogroms became known as Kristallnacht, the "Night of Broken Glass," for the shattered glass from the store windows that littered the streets.
The morning after the pogroms 30,000 German Jewish men were arrested for the "crime" of being Jewish and sent to concentration camps
, where hundreds of them perished. Some Jewish women were also arrested and sent to local jails. Businesses owned by Jews were not allowed to reopen unless they were managed by non-Jews. Curfews were placed on Jews, limiting the hours of the day they could leave their homes.
After the "Night of Broken Glass," life was even more difficult for German and Austrian Jewish children and teenagers. Already barred from entering museums, public playgrounds, and swimming pools, now they were expelled from the public schools. Jewish youngsters, like their parents, were totally segregated in Germany. In despair, many Jewish adults committed suicide. Most families tried desperately to leave."

None of this is to downplay what happened at the capital the other night, it was an egregious offense by the POTUS to not squelch that and instead to egg it on...he's paying, and will pay for the rest of his life, the political and real cost of that very poor choice. It's just not on the same historical level as Arnold attempted to paint it, and I think that's dangerous for people like him to do. That being said, it's a mostly free country...and I like Arnold as a person and actor.
A more accurate analogy to the Nazi party was the Beer Hall Putsch where they attempted a coup but failed miserably. Unfortunately, they had enough support that they didn't stay in jail for very long.
 

Rack

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That we cannot all agree that these are two EXTREEMLY different types of events is very telling and kind of explains a lot about the summer of love and the culmination of all things politically biased by some idiot Trump followers last week. The point I'm making is that we should be able to all denounce ALL idiots who conduct violent acts from all sorts of causes without always jumping to comparing them to Nazis. It's lazy as h*ll.