Oklahoma State baseball's all-time starting nine

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https://twitter.com/OSUBaseball/status/997151611070726150

https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/...lahoma-state-baseballs-all-time-starting-nine

This is the latest in our series of all time starting nines for some of college baseball’s most successful programs. Players' professional careers were not considered, just their college careers — along with consideration given to their positional fits as well as a batting order that could provide a combination of a high batting average, speed and power.

1. Jeff Guiel (1996-97) – Outfield
2. Monty Fariss (1986-88) – Shortstop
3. Robin Ventura (1986-88) – Third base
4. Pete Incaviglia (1983-85) – Outfield

5. Jimmy Barragan (1985-87) – First base
6. Tyler Mach (2006-07) – Second base
7. Michael Daniel (1990-91) – Catcher
8. Rusty McNamara (1995-97) – Outfield
9. Dennis Livingston (1982-84) – Pitcher
Gary Ward (1978-1996) – Coach


Thoughts?
 
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https://twitter.com/OSUBaseball/status/997151611070726150


https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/...lahoma-state-baseballs-all-time-starting-nine

This is the latest in our series of all time starting nines for some of college baseball’s most successful programs. Players' professional careers were not considered, just their college careers — along with consideration given to their positional fits as well as a batting order that could provide a combination of a high batting average, speed and power.

1. Jeff Guiel (1996-97) – Outfield
2. Monty Fariss (1986-88) – Shortstop
3. Robin Ventura (1986-88) – Third base
4. Pete Incaviglia (1983-85) – Outfield

5. Jimmy Barragan (1985-87) – First base
6. Tyler Mach (2006-07) – Second base
7. Michael Daniel (1990-91) – Catcher
8. Rusty McNamara (1995-97) – Outfield
9. Dennis Livingston (1982-84) – Pitcher
Gary Ward (1978-1996) – Coach


Thoughts?

I pretty much agree with the list. But, if you're leaning more toward the best season/upside shown, I think you have to go with Heaney at P. He may have had the best season of any OSU pitcher ever.
 
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https://twitter.com/OSUBaseball/status/997151611070726150



https://www.ncaa.com/news/baseball/...lahoma-state-baseballs-all-time-starting-nine

This is the latest in our series of all time starting nines for some of college baseball’s most successful programs. Players' professional careers were not considered, just their college careers — along with consideration given to their positional fits as well as a batting order that could provide a combination of a high batting average, speed and power.

1. Jeff Guiel (1996-97) – Outfield
2. Monty Fariss (1986-88) – Shortstop
3. Robin Ventura (1986-88) – Third base
4. Pete Incaviglia (1983-85) – Outfield

5. Jimmy Barragan (1985-87) – First base
6. Tyler Mach (2006-07) – Second base
7. Michael Daniel (1990-91) – Catcher
8. Rusty McNamara (1995-97) – Outfield
9. Dennis Livingston (1982-84) – Pitcher
Gary Ward (1978-1996) – Coach


Thoughts?
Jeff Salazar in the OF. The dude played an amazing CF and made it to the bigs. Had one of the most amazing HR robbing-catches I've ever seen for Arizona.

Plus, wouldn't you want to a DH in there?
 
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Doug Dascenzo has to be in the outfield.

Dascenzo returned for his junior year in 1985 and built upon his success of the previous year by batting .390 with a school and conference record 67 stolen bases in 71 games. He was second on the team with 90 walks and 20 doubles while also playing a near flawless center field with only one error while recording 130 putouts for a .993 fielding percentage.

Ward called him out of center field to relief pitch a couple of times.

He went on to play for the Cubs and is now a coach in the minors.
 

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All time starting nine or Ward era to now starting nine, if that's the case everyone on the list and those mentioned afterwards have a pretty good argument for inclusion.
I suspect there are some old timers who might argue all time.
you could almost make three teams (Pre Ward, Ward and Post Ward) because of all the changes in the bats. Hard to compare stats between them all but still some fun discussion.
 

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you could almost make three teams (Pre Ward, Ward and Post Ward) because of all the changes in the bats. Hard to compare stats between them all but still some fun discussion.
I think this is right on, additionally the stats certainly inflated (all across baseball not just college and not just Oklahoma State) are also based on double the number or more of games. Off the top of my head I'd look at guys like; Adair, Allie P, Borland, the above mentioned Soergel (both), one of my all time favorites was Danny Thompson.
There are probably 60 or more guys deserving of a place on an all time squad depending on what you were trying to define as all time. aae, I remember many years ago GW said something to the effect that getting Evans (from Yavapi jc, I think) was huge in turning the program around, Evans was as good a power hitter as the Pokes have ever had just statistically (for a number of reasons you already pointed out) not on par with many of the guys included but if he was instrumental in GW turning the program around I'd find a spot for him.
Like you said great for a lively discussion
 

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Four Cowboys are in the College Baseball HoF: Inky, Ventura, Ward (as coach), and Tom Borland. There have been a bunch of great OSU/OA&M pitchers, but Borland stands out.