Official Texas Bowl Thread: Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma State

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SanditeCowboy

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And I am a big fan of HCMG. He may get paid more than you think he should but look at the overall players he gets. Fairly good players yes but not the 4 and 5 stars he has to compete with. Even aTm has a high star recruiting class pretty much every year. Sure he gets a couple here and there but it takes more than two or three even on one side of the ball. I don't think he gets complacent. I think he realizes you can only get so much out of an individual. Yes an individual not an athlete. You listen to his press conferences and he talks more of life lessons for these individuals and preparation for that next step. He speaks of this more than just the games. I know one thing each one of his players can probably handle the losses knowing that they tried. Just saying
I agree with the life lessons and developing the player for life. I love that about Gundy. But this is a multimillion dollar business and he is a multimillion dollar coach. When you are in that high dollar game you have a high level of accountability. He is responsible for the 3* recruits he/his staff sign. He has done a spectacular job at turning those 3 stars into 4 and 5 stars until the last 2 years. Consequently it is really irritating when he talks about the players on the other team pushing his around and just stopping short of saying they are better - like he did in the post game radio interview tonight. He is responsible for the level of players he recruits.

With that being said, if these mediocre seasons continue his seat will get hot.


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Anybody have his post game words of wisdom?


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Gundy said he's excited about the direction of the program and that it could have tanked and that no one with OSU should leave tonight with their head down.

He was very upbeat and sounded like he was not upset at all.

Robert then mentioned how much he liked the recruiting class, which pretty much summed up how worthless the interview was.

Oh....
And Gundy said we had good plans on both offense and defense
He also said he was concerned about being pushed around on both sides of the ball coming in to the game. He and Robert just stopped short of stating the team with the better players won. I hate hearing this sentiment from our head coach as he is responsible for bringing those players that got pushed around into the program.


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Presley is a game changer at return options if he can get big enough.

Getting Bundage back is huge.

Having KHP back is huge.

Another year of growth for Trace Ford is huge.

Another year with a healthy SS is huge.

Chuba May come back who knows?

Our biggest areas of weakness were OL/DL and WR. At some point we have got to have some linemen become NFL prospects. When’s the last OL besides Lane and Okung who have made a roster? Even Tulsa has sent a couple guys to the NFL. This OL gap of piss poor recruiting has to end at some point right....?
 

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Wow..watching a real offense with Wazzu..forgot what that looked like...
If Gundy retires at the end of his contract and Leach is still coaching, I'd have no problem with Leach as our head coach. That won't ever happen, but it's mind-boggling that no one has hired Leach away from Washington State. It's a terrible program, mostly because of the horrid facilities and lack of big-money donors.
It's a never ending contract.

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Anybody have his post game words of wisdom?


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Gundy said he's excited about the direction of the program and that it could have tanked and that no one with OSU should leave tonight with their head down.

He was very upbeat and sounded like he was not upset at all.

Robert then mentioned how much he liked the recruiting class, which pretty much summed up how worthless the interview was.

Oh....
And Gundy said we had good plans on both offense and defense
He also said he was concerned about being pushed around on both sides of the ball coming in to the game. He and Robert just stopped short of stating the team with the better players won. I hate hearing this sentiment from our head coach as he is responsible for bringing those players that got pushed around into the program.


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The only thing I would trade player wise with them is o line. And it’s not much better than ours. Outside of that we were far better at each position. Qb a push at best.


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A few thoughts

Chuba was clearly the best player on the field (should’ve had more carries)

I thought Dru played well enough for us to win

Receivers had two huge drops that would’ve put us in scoring position

Rodarius wasn’t good.

Specialists were bad.. Ammendola’s misses weren’t chip shots, but come on, man. I guess it was a fitting way for him to go out. Hutton got better, but his first few punts were awful

A&M fans showed up.. basically a home game for them, they were loud, but not great at holding their alcohol
 

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Can't wait for HCMG to resign. You may then realize how good you had it.
Or we can celebrate that this clown is gone and not coasting and sucking money from my pocket. Shut up sunshine pumpin pansy
It'd be one thing if we actually saw most of you guys posting a bunch even when winning games, instead you puff up your chests and come in here like some hero to declare to the world how much you hate Gundy and he needs to be gone. That's why people don't like to listen to you. Whether you are right or wrong doesn't matter. You and others only come to game threads to b*tch.

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And the haters all disappear into the woodwork again, until the next bball thread.

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Momentum really changed on the play where we sacked Mond on 3rd down by they got a mulligan and an eventual 1st down due to an off-sides penalty.

But the difference in the game was the Aggies got to Brown on so many sacks. This offense w/o SS and Wallace isn't good a making up those lost yards on 2nd or 3rd and long. A sack basically meant we were going to punt.

Dru Brown is not quick enough to be a good D1 QB. He has very little shiftiness and no speed. There were so many time when he ran or scrambled that if it were SS, it would have been huge gains.

The only way the Aggies won was Mond not getting sacked and his speed on his long runs.
 

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Mike Gundy. I was 8 when he was 18 and playing QB at OSU, so I’ve watched him almost my whole life. He’s taken the program to new heights and deserves lots of credit for that. I’m not one that thinks that every play that doesn’t work was a bad call. But I also think there is a 2 year concerning trend about his program.
He’s made his mark by beating the teams he should, and for a long time we won most of the “even matchups.”
But the last two seasons, that hasn’t happened as much. We’ve lost 5 or 6 games to teams we flat out should have beaten. This year that included Texas Tech and Texas A&M. Last year included Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, and Iowa State. With the exception of perhaps TTU last year, the team played very poorly in those losses and basically pissed the game away (that’s how you lose to average teams, after all). OSU fans have the right to expect better than 15-11. Losing to teams you should beat is just bad football.
His contract is too big, but I’m to the point now where I wouldn’t mind if we parted ways. I hope he’s right about the future, but I don’t see it. This team/program is pretty stagnant. I’m tired of all the quirks, secrecy, lack of imagination, and strange decisions.
I don’t buy that you couldn’t get a good young coach here. And if it was just 4-5 years, then fine. The program is capable of more.
I won’t root against him. If we go 11-2 next year I’ll be more than happy to have been wrong, but I’ll be very surprised.
 
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Mike Gundy. I was 8 when he was 18 and playing QB at OSU, so I’ve watched him almost my whole life. He’s taken the program to new heights and deserves lots of credit for that. I’m not one that thinks that every play that doesn’t work was a bad call. But I also think there is a 2 year concerning trend about his program.
He’s made his mark by beating the teams he should, and for a long time we won most of the “even matchups.”
But the last two seasons, that hasn’t happened as much. We’ve lost 5 or 6 games to teams we flat out should have beaten. This year that included Texas Tech and Texas A&M. Last year included Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, and Iowa State. With the exception of perhaps TTU last year, the team played very poorly in those losses and basically pissed the game away (that’s how you lose to average teams, after all). OSU fans have the right to expect better than 15-11. Losing to teams you should beat is just bad football.
His contract is too big, but I’m to the point now where I wouldn’t mind if we parted ways. I hope he’s right about the future, but I don’t see it. This team/program is pretty stagnant. I’m tired of all the quirks, secrecy, lack of imagination, and strange decisions.
I don’t buy that you couldn’t get a good young coach here. And if it was just 4-5 years, then fine. The program is capable of more.
I won’t root against him. If we go 11-2 next year I’ll be more than happy to have been wrong, but I’ll be very surprised.
Somebody, older in Kansas figure this right? This Dude needs to see a sports psychologist - all the golfer that make Money Do.
 
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Gundy said he's excited about the direction of the program and that it could have tanked and that no one with OSU should leave tonight with their head down.

He was very upbeat and sounded like he was not upset at all.

Robert then mentioned how much he liked the recruiting class, which pretty much summed up how worthless the interview was.

Oh....
And Gundy said we had good plans on both offense and defense

He had just looked at his bank account.
 

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If Gundy retires at the end of his contract and Leach is still coaching, I'd have no problem with Leach as our head coach. That won't ever happen, but it's mind-boggling that no one has hired Leach away from Washington State. It's a terrible program, mostly because of the horrid facilities and lack of big-money donors.
Same leach that went 6-7 this year? He’s in a power 5 conference doing less than decent.

that answers your questions.