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StillwaterTownie

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don't even try to snowball me with your nonsense.... The 17th amendment was passed when the radical libs and Marxists were in power, and those political winds have shifted back toward the wisdom and genius of our founding.

I'm not much interested in your "polls" about what "people want", since they don't even know what it even means. If asked about the electoral college they apparently say replace it (barely, and declining), but if you asked the same people a similar question about ending the Republic and installing a pure democracy, how do you think the responses would go?

Study: Americans Don't Know Much About History
There's an epidemic of historical and political ignorance, says report
A majority of Americans from all backgrounds struggled to come up with the correct answers in a quiz about American history by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute (ISI). More than 2,500 randomly selected Americans took ISI's basic 33 question test on civic literacy and 71% of them received an average score of 49% or an "F."

Ian Bremmer Is democracy essential? Millennials increasingly aren't sure — and that should concern us all.

According to a study published in October 2017 by Pew Research, there’s a division of opinion in many countries today on whether states are more effectively governed by “experts” or elected officials. In advanced economies, young adults are more likely than older people to prefer technocracy to democracy. The study found that in the U.S., 46 percent of those aged 18 to 29 would prefer to be governed by experts compared with 36 percent of respondents aged 50 and older.

A study from Harvard’s Yascha Mounk and the University of Melbourne’s Roberto Stefan Foa published in the Journal of Democracy in January 2017 produced an even more striking result. Perhaps most alarming was the revelation than one quarter of millennials agreed that “choosing leaders through free elections is unimportant.” Just 14 percent of Baby Boomers and 10 percent of older Americans agreed.
What are those political winds you write of that have shifted back toward the wisdom and genius of our founding? It sure wasn't in the two links you provided.
 

CaliforniaCowboy

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What are those political winds you write of that have shifted back toward the wisdom and genius of our founding? It sure wasn't in the two links you provided.
you have to get out of your basement once in a while to know what is really going on.

How quickly you seem to have overlooked who is now President, the attitudes of the many democrats who elected him, and those who are just plain tired of the marxist/socialist nonsense of Bernie, AOC and the others.

The younger generations are becoming more conservative... have you not paid attention to anything?
 

StillwaterTownie

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you have to get out of your basement once in a while to know what is really going on.

How quickly you seem to have overlooked who is now President, the attitudes of the many democrats who elected him, and those who are just plain tired of the marxist/socialist nonsense of Bernie, AOC and the others.

The younger generations are becoming more conservative... have you not paid attention to anything?
Yes, but make no doubt about it, whatsoever, you sure wouldn't know the youngest generation is becoming more conservative in going by the precinct results in or near OSU in 2018. They all voted straight Democrat and to no surprise had the biggest yes vote in percentages for medical marijuana.

And, no doubt, you would rather overlook the FACT that Oklahoma City elected a Democrat for Congress for the first time in decades. The Democrat woman who won is not like AOC.
 

CaliforniaCowboy

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Yes, but make no doubt about it, whatsoever, you sure wouldn't know the youngest generation is becoming more conservative in going by the precinct results in or near OSU in 2018. They all voted straight Democrat and to no surprise had the biggest yes vote in percentages for medical marijuana.

And, no doubt, you would rather overlook the FACT that Oklahoma City elected a Democrat for Congress for the first time in decades. The Democrat woman who won is not like AOC.
as always.... I do not co-mingle national politics with your local situation. Do you have anything to add to the point aside what happened on limited issues in very limited areas?
 

llcoolw

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don't even try to snowball me with your nonsense.... The 17th amendment was passed when the radical libs and Marxists were in power, and those political winds have shifted back toward the wisdom and genius of our founding.

I'm not much interested in your "polls" about what "people want", since they don't even know what it even means. If asked about the electoral college they apparently say replace it (barely, and declining), but if you asked the same people a similar question about ending the Republic and installing a pure democracy, how do you think the responses would go?

Study: Americans Don't Know Much About History
There's an epidemic of historical and political ignorance, says report
A majority of Americans from all backgrounds struggled to come up with the correct answers in a quiz about American history by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute (ISI). More than 2,500 randomly selected Americans took ISI's basic 33 question test on civic literacy and 71% of them received an average score of 49% or an "F."

Ian Bremmer Is democracy essential? Millennials increasingly aren't sure — and that should concern us all.

According to a study published in October 2017 by Pew Research, there’s a division of opinion in many countries today on whether states are more effectively governed by “experts” or elected officials. In advanced economies, young adults are more likely than older people to prefer technocracy to democracy. The study found that in the U.S., 46 percent of those aged 18 to 29 would prefer to be governed by experts compared with 36 percent of respondents aged 50 and older.

A study from Harvard’s Yascha Mounk and the University of Melbourne’s Roberto Stefan Foa published in the Journal of Democracy in January 2017 produced an even more striking result. Perhaps most alarming was the revelation than one quarter of millennials agreed that “choosing leaders through free elections is unimportant.” Just 14 percent of Baby Boomers and 10 percent of older Americans agreed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sc...telligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence/amp
 

CaliforniaCowboy

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Do you? You failed to support your comment after you wrote, "The younger generations are becoming more conservative..j."
Honestly, I really should not have to do your homework for you. I have explained this to you time and time again, but you do not care to listen, nor to learn. You have agendas, you are not receptive to what is really transpiring.

Drop the partisan politics already.

We the People want better than we've had, and we're going to get it. We want Constitutionality, not Party Affiliation.

Millions and millions and millions of people feel and move in this manner, you simply refuse to recognize or acknowledge what is being said and requested by these people.... We the People.

I've invited you to be with the People, but you want to continue playing party politics and identity politics.

We'll be here when you eventually join us in building (rebuilding) a better America.

Why Democrats Should Be Losing Sleep Over Generation Z
...given their more conservative leanings, Gen Z was not taken into account during this election, even though for many of them it was their first. Younger generations are famous for being liberal, therefore we mistakenly assumed that Gen Z would vote Democratic. But studies show that Gen Z’s views closely resemble those of Libertarian or Moderate Republicans, and that they related with Donald Trump on issues like national security and job creation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashley...-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#65a042457878


Young Americans Are Actually Not Becoming More Progressive
For years, it has been said that Republicans have a “young-people problem” — the party, it was assumed, just couldn’t attract young voters. Yet despite predictions it would experience an “historic trouncing” in 2016, among young voters, 37% of young adults voted for Trump (about the same as voted for Mitt Romney in 2012), with Trump winning among white young adults by 48% to 43%.

Today’s young Americans, who include both Millennials (born 1980–‘94) and iGen (1995–2012), represent the future of the political landscape: 18- to 29-year-olds are now an equal or a larger percentage of voters than those over 65. Given that, it’s crucial to understand why nearly two out of five iGen’ers and young Millennials voted for not just a Republican candidate but a candidate affiliated with a white nationalism many thought had died out long before iGen was born.

http://time.com/4909722/trump-millennials-igen-republicans-voters/
 
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Yes, but make no doubt about it, whatsoever, you sure wouldn't know the youngest generation is becoming more conservative in going by the precinct results in or near OSU in 2018. They all voted straight Democrat and to no surprise had the biggest yes vote in percentages for medical marijuana.

And, no doubt, you would rather overlook the FACT that Oklahoma City elected a Democrat for Congress for the first time in decades. The Democrat woman who won is not like AOC.
Yes...and she keeps trying to prove..." I am not a Democrat"....
 

NotOnTV

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Netflix's Black Mirror has an episode about this. No doubt there are people who would love for this to come to fruition in the US someday too. "Just agree with us and tow the line and you'll have nothing to worry about."
I wonder if they allow it to be shown in China?
 

NotOnTV

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Didn't want to start a new thread so this is the best place I could find.

It is very apparent that Wall Street absolutely loathe's Trump's China trade policies. I was hoping that a lot of the fear was already baked into stock prices, but looks like we're headed for substantial correction territory as the worst case scenario for the trade deal continues to pan out. Couple that with some mid-quarter softness in retail and technology spending and now we see that the "R" word is being bandied about in the financial media.

All things being equal, the Trump campaign cannot afford a steep equity decline and economic slowdown at this point. He needs every bit of good household news he can muster to overcome the mainstream media slime apparatus and the unAmerican, anti-democracy, anti-republic dirty tricks and criminal activity being carried out by the Democrats.

It doesn't matter if China needs to be dealt with in a very tough way, or if he has forced Iran to back down like the real cowards they are. I don't have any real answers or advice for him -- it's just tough all the way around right now and I believe he is close to slipping into underdog territory if he is not already there.
 
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Didn't want to start a new thread so this is the best place I could find.

It is very apparent that Wall Street absolutely loathe's Trump's China trade policies. I was hoping that a lot of the fear was already baked into stock prices, but looks like we're headed for substantial correction territory as the worst case scenario for the trade deal continues to pan out. Couple that with some mid-quarter softness in retail and technology spending and now we see that the "R" word is being bandied about in the financial media.

All things being equal, the Trump campaign cannot afford a steep equity decline and economic slowdown at this point. He needs every bit of good household news he can muster to overcome the mainstream media slime apparatus and the unAmerican, anti-democracy, anti-republic dirty tricks and criminal activity being carried out by the Democrats.

It doesn't matter if China needs to be dealt with in a very tough way, or if he has forced Iran to back down like the real cowards they are. I don't have any real answers or advice for him -- it's just tough all the way around right now and I believe he is close to slipping into underdog territory if he is not already there.


Lordy mercy !!
Some really stupid people post here.
 
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Didn't want to start a new thread so this is the best place I could find.

It is very apparent that Wall Street absolutely loathe's Trump's China trade policies. I was hoping that a lot of the fear was already baked into stock prices, but looks like we're headed for substantial correction territory as the worst case scenario for the trade deal continues to pan out. Couple that with some mid-quarter softness in retail and technology spending and now we see that the "R" word is being bandied about in the financial media.

All things being equal, the Trump campaign cannot afford a steep equity decline and economic slowdown at this point. He needs every bit of good household news he can muster to overcome the mainstream media slime apparatus and the unAmerican, anti-democracy, anti-republic dirty tricks and criminal activity being carried out by the Democrats.

It doesn't matter if China needs to be dealt with in a very tough way, or if he has forced Iran to back down like the real cowards they are. I don't have any real answers or advice for him -- it's just tough all the way around right now and I believe he is close to slipping into underdog territory if he is not already there.
I think this has more to do with the liberals and Trump than the Chinese.