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If you’re gonna “what if”, you gotta cover all the what if’s.

His NFL chances are about the same either year no matter how you slice it. His chances of career ending injury are about the same no matter how you slice it. So the only real issue is, does he capitalize on the opportunity to get a degree and play another year of college football, or pass on that for the same relative risk/reward? That is a no-brainer.


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I did cover the all of the what if’s.

If his career ending injury happens in the nfl he gets paid for the year ... over $300k. He can go back to college and finish his degree.

If his career ending injury happens. In college he can get his degree but cannot go pro.

Obviously his dream is to play in the league, he sees no chance of improving his draft stock. So that is 100% risk / no reward. If the dude’s dream is to play in the league, whats to hold him back?

No brainer indeed.
 
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If you’re gonna “what if”, you gotta cover all the what if’s.

His NFL chances are about the same either year no matter how you slice it. His chances of career ending injury are about the same no matter how you slice it. So the only real issue is, does he capitalize on the opportunity to get a degree and play another year of college football, or pass on that for the same relative risk/reward? That is a no-brainer.


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I did cover the all of the what if’s.

If his career ending injury happens in the nfl he gets paid for the year ... over $300k. He can go back to college and finish his degree.

If his career ending injury happens. In college he can get his degree but cannot go pro.

Obviously his dream is to play in the league, he sees no chance of improving his draft stock. So that is 100% risk / no reward. If the dude’s dream is to play in the league, whats to hold him back?

No brainer indeed.
Where’s the:
If he never makes a roster but spends 3 years trying just to have a career ending injury in training and never decides to go back to college....

If he stays another year, works on his route running, has a Biletnikoff season and gets drafted in the 2nd round.....

Objectively, he has the same chance to make it in the NFL in 2020 as he does in 2019.

Objectively, he has the same chance of getting injured in the NFL before he gets established as he does getting injured in his last year of college.


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Where’s the:
If he never makes a roster but spends 3 years trying just to have a career ending injury in training and never decides to go back to college....

If he stays another year, works on his route running, has a Biletnikoff season and gets drafted in the 2nd round.....

Objectively, he has the same chance to make it in the NFL in 2020 as he does in 2019.

Objectively, he has the same chance of getting injured in the NFL before he gets established as he does getting injured in his last year of college.


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The problem with your whole argument is that he always, under every scenario, has the ability to come back and finish school if he chooses.
 
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Where’s the:
If he never makes a roster but spends 3 years trying just to have a career ending injury in training and never decides to go back to college....

If he stays another year, works on his route running, has a Biletnikoff season and gets drafted in the 2nd round.....

Objectively, he has the same chance to make it in the NFL in 2020 as he does in 2019.

Objectively, he has the same chance of getting injured in the NFL before he gets established as he does getting injured in his last year of college.


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The problem with your whole argument is that he always, under every scenario, has the ability to come back and finish school if he chooses.
And we all know how often that actually happens


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I think the Josh Stewart scenario is what some of us posters fear.

Tyron has been in college for 4 years. He should have a degree or almost, so little investment to complete if need be.

I understand if Tyron is worried about new OC, new QB, and if the whole season is Tylan (like the start of 2018).

He finished 2018 with a lot more targets per game than he started. Or at least the stats look like that.

I think Tyron made a good decision if 2020 WR class is loaded like it looks to be.

Where as, Stewart opted pro to be in a stacked WR class after a season of nagging injuries.
 

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The thing I see is that his opportunities are better to be drafted next year from a team that will be much better than this year, win-loss wise. He will be the #2 receiver with a whole season to show his stuff. This past season he didn’t seem to turn it on until the second half of the season. A larger body of work on a more successful team would help his stock.
 

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At least if he doesn’t make a team as an I drafted free agent, he will 2 other pro leagues that will give him an opportunity to prove himself


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The thing I see is that his opportunities are better to be drafted next year from a team that will be much better than this year, win-loss wise. He will be the #2 receiver with a whole season to show his stuff. This past season he didn’t seem to turn it on until the second half of the season. A larger body of work on a more successful team would help his stock.
Even with an enormous jump he won’t be in the top 2 rounds.There is not much difference between round 3 and an UDFA rookie minimum in terms of salary. Assuming he makes a team as at least as a UFA. Another year here would cost him $450,000.
 
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His biggest risk is a career ending injury - which can happen at any level. He could return for his Sr season and have a career ending injury, but he’d have a degree. Or he could leave and have the same career-ending injury risk, but then not have a degree. In either case his chances of making an NFL roster is about the same. His risk of injury is about the same. This is a bad decision - IMO.
If he hasn't gotten his degree, he can always come back and finish it. Everyone is different. For some a fifth year of school is worthwhile, for others it isn't.
 
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Since the NFL Combine begins today, here's our preview coverage. First, Bill Haisten's latest column on Jordan Brailford...

Because he graduated from Booker T. Washington (academically, the state’s No. 1 public high school) and from Oklahoma State with two degrees, Jordan Brailford will be successful.

It’s impossible to know exactly what he’ll be doing in a few years, but it’s a safe presumption that he’ll be settled in a nice career.

Of more immediate interest is what he’ll be doing this summer.


The 6-foot-3, 245-pound Brailford hopes to be in an NFL training camp, battling to make a roster as a defensive end.

His quest began with a strong 2018 season at OSU, continued with an excellent week of work at the East-West Shrine Game and leads to this week’s NFL combine in Indianapolis.

Brailford’s goal: to perform at a level that would compel a team to take him no later than the third round of the April 25-27 NFL draft.
Mark Cooper and Eric Bailey profiled the OSU and OU invites...

Justice Hill

RB, 5-10, 185

On-field workout date: Friday

NFL.com grade: 5.48 (NFL backup or special teams potential)

NFL.com bottom line (Lance Zierlein): Hill is an undersized but excitable runner with a go-go tempo that can work for and against him on any given series. He runs tough along the interior and has the vision and agility to slip tackles, but his lack of size and explosive top-end play speed could work against him. Hill might not have the skills needed to handle third-down duties, so he could be pigeon-holed as a try-hard backup with average upside.
Finally, here's a look back at in-state participants (and combine stats) since 2014
 
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TJ doesn’t strike me as the greatest decision maker. Nonetheless, wish the best for him.
Don't remember him getting in trouble while he was in Stillwater where a lot of athletes do. I think he should have came back, but maybe he made a good decision with 2020 WR class being loaded and new OC. Gonna miss him out there for sure.
 

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If you’re gonna “what if”, you gotta cover all the what if’s.

His NFL chances are about the same either year no matter how you slice it. His chances of career ending injury are about the same no matter how you slice it. So the only real issue is, does he capitalize on the opportunity to get a degree and play another year of college football, or pass on that for the same relative risk/reward? That is a no-brainer.


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it's also 1 more year to make $$. i bet there was a lot more thought put into his decision than you're giving him credit for. you sound butt hurt.......
 
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If you’re gonna “what if”, you gotta cover all the what if’s.

His NFL chances are about the same either year no matter how you slice it. His chances of career ending injury are about the same no matter how you slice it. So the only real issue is, does he capitalize on the opportunity to get a degree and play another year of college football, or pass on that for the same relative risk/reward? That is a no-brainer.


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it's also 1 more year to make $$. i bet there was a lot more thought put into his decision than you're giving him credit for. you sound butt hurt.......
Only if he makes a roster, which I doubt. That’s kinda the point though, isn’t it? The low probability of actually making NFL dollars vs getting a degree.


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Don't remember him getting in trouble while he was in Stillwater where a lot of athletes do. I think he should have came back, but maybe he made a good decision with 2020 WR class being loaded and new OC. Gonna miss him out there for sure.
He was finally coming into his own towards the end of the season. I think he would’ve been targeted more but who knows. I hope he proves everyone wrong and lands a spot next season.
 

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Only if he makes a roster, which I doubt. That’s kinda the point though, isn’t it? The low probability of actually making NFL dollars vs getting a degree.


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like i said, there are probably other factors involved besides "Gumby says get a degree"........