New Zealand Mosque attacks

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This is an interesting line from his Manifesto

“The person who has influenced me above all was Candace Owens”

When people begin to tweet the shooters own written remarks to Candace Owens she responded saying

“LOL! ???? FACT: I’ve never created any content espousing my views on the 2nd Amendment or Islam,” Owens said in response to one now deleted tweet. “The Left pretending I inspired a mosque massacre in…New Zealand because I believe black America can do it without government hand outs is the reachiest reach of all reaches!! LOL!”

“HAHA OMG you racist Leftists are taking your racism and crazy to a whole new level hahah. Black people don’t have to be Democrats” now means…mosque shootings in New Zealand?”
 

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That part left me scratching my head. I don't really know that much about Candace Owens, but I haven't ever heard her say or tweet anything that would influence someone like this.
In Dec 2018 she said that it would have been fine if Hitler only wanted to make Germany great and had not wanted to expand his policies beyond Germany.

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word "nationalism." I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. ... Whenever we say "nationalism," the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German. Everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism

She also has stated she believes the NRA is a civil rights organization that was founded to train African Americans to arm themselves
 
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That part left me scratching my head. I don't really know that much about Candace Owens, but I haven't ever heard her say or tweet anything that would influence someone like this.
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The linked article does a good job of explaining some of what he does in the manifesto. Regarding Owens:


"It is possible, even likely that the author was a fan of Owens’s videos: she certainly espouses anti-immigrant rhetoric. But in context seems likely that his references to Owens were calculated to spark division, and perhaps even violence, between the left and the right. At multiple points in the manifesto the author expresses the hope that his massacre will spark further attempts at gun control in the United States, which he believes will lead to gun confiscation and a civil war. He believes this civil war would be the best opportunity destroy the American “melting pot”. This idea is repeated often enough that it seems to be something the author legitimately believes in.

"Given the tone surrounding the Candace Owens passage, it seems clear that it was “bait”, thrown out to attract attention on social media and sow further political division. The entire manifesto is dotted, liberally, with references to memes and Internet in-jokes that only the extremely online would get."
 

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Article

The linked article does a good job of explaining some of what he does in the manifesto. Regarding Owens:


"It is possible, even likely that the author was a fan of Owens’s videos: she certainly espouses anti-immigrant rhetoric. But in context seems likely that his references to Owens were calculated to spark division, and perhaps even violence, between the left and the right. At multiple points in the manifesto the author expresses the hope that his massacre will spark further attempts at gun control in the United States, which he believes will lead to gun confiscation and a civil war. He believes this civil war would be the best opportunity destroy the American “melting pot”. This idea is repeated often enough that it seems to be something the author legitimately believes in.

"Given the tone surrounding the Candace Owens passage, it seems clear that it was “bait”, thrown out to attract attention on social media and sow further political division. The entire manifesto is dotted, liberally, with references to memes and Internet in-jokes that only the extremely online would get."
Yep. He was specifically calling out and naming people in his manifesto to promote and further divide American politics. His end game is very clear....to promote more divide in American politics and attempt to spark an American Civil War
 
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Article

The linked article does a good job of explaining some of what he does in the manifesto. Regarding Owens:


"It is possible, even likely that the author was a fan of Owens’s videos: she certainly espouses anti-immigrant rhetoric. But in context seems likely that his references to Owens were calculated to spark division, and perhaps even violence, between the left and the right. At multiple points in the manifesto the author expresses the hope that his massacre will spark further attempts at gun control in the United States, which he believes will lead to gun confiscation and a civil war. He believes this civil war would be the best opportunity destroy the American “melting pot”. This idea is repeated often enough that it seems to be something the author legitimately believes in.

"Given the tone surrounding the Candace Owens passage, it seems clear that it was “bait”, thrown out to attract attention on social media and sow further political division. The entire manifesto is dotted, liberally, with references to memes and Internet in-jokes that only the extremely online would get."
That makes sense. He said he hopes that a US civil war would result in racial separation and ensure the future of the white race on the North American continent. It seems out of place that a devout racist like this would tout a black woman as the person that influenced him the most.
 

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That makes sense. He said he hopes that a US civil war will result in racial separation and ensure the future of the white race on the North American continent. It seems out of place that a devout racist like this would tout a black woman as the person that influenced him the most.
Some publications have tagged her as a member of the alt-right movement. Maybe he bought into that?
 
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Some publications have tagged her as a member of the alt-right movement. Maybe he bought into that?
I don't know. I'm sure he probably likes some of the things she's said about immigration. But he's clearly a hardcore racist. He also says that he isn't conservative, and he wants nothing to do with it. She just doesn't seem to fit the mold of someone that would have a great influence on him.
 

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Doesn't seem to matter to the media (the left) that it is a blatantly self-described false-flag. They are going to demonize and marginalize to help further the narrative of the manifesto.
 

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Some publications have tagged her as a member of the alt-right movement. Maybe he bought into that?
They can tag her all they want, she is not.

Hope she has her legal team at the ready.
Wouldn't be surprised if Twitter bans her. Probably will do it in the name of hate speech lmao.