New Zealand MANDATORY Gun Buy Back

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CaliforniaCowboy

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Why do they call it a "buy back", did they buy them from the Government originally?

only 700 guns out of 1.5 million have been surrendered.

As 2020 Dems Propose Mass Buyback of Guns, New Zealand’s Couldn’t Be Going Worse

Democrats praised New Zealand when they announced their mandatory gun buyback, but a recent report shows the program is a disaster.

Following the horrific mosque shootings that left more than 50 dead, New Zealand’s Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced a mandatory gun buyback program. The mandate called for all gun owners — with the exception of some specific economic groups, such as farmers — turn over all semi-automatic “military style” weapons to the government.

At the time, Democrats praised Ardern’s leadership on gun confiscation. As IJR previously reported, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and her fellow Democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) praised the decision and called on the United States to do the same thing.

According to a new report from the Washington Post, only 700 of the estimated 1.2 to 1.5 million firearms in New Zealand have been turned over to authorities.

Gun owners have until December 20 before it becomes a crime to own the weapons, but many are waiting it out in hopes that some laws will change in the meantime. Activists have vowed to take the issue to the courts through a class action lawsuit against the government of New Zealand.
https://ijr.com/dems-support-gun-buybacks-as-new-zealand-struggles/
 

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Any time people speak of the government coming to take your guns, I think about how you would hire someone for that job. And how much you would have to pay them.
 

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Any time people speak of the government coming to take your guns, I think about how you would hire someone for that job. And how much you would have to pay them.
yeah... that's not how it works.

The goal is to make everybody a criminal. Then when they end up pulling you over or entering your home they have a reason to arrest you and control you.

You can't say or do much once you're a law breaker - which we all most certainly will be under a leftist agenda.

They are not going to come and take your guns, but when they come to a home for domestic reasons, or they arrest you for DUI or public drunkenness or what ever excuse they've come up with to harass you, that's when they also confiscate your weapons.
 

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That's the end result but I don't think that's their intention. You are referring to the Democrats who talk about taking our guns, right?
Has that happened in the mainstream? I'm not talking about stuff like an assault rifle ban (which I agree is idiotic). I guess I don't really follow stuff like this closely but has anyone said let's ban hunting rifles nationwide or anything like that?

I just get the feeling most of it is fearmongering.
 

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Any time people speak of the government coming to take your guns, I think about how you would hire someone for that job. And how much you would have to pay them.
The people talking about the government taking your guns are trying to scare people into buying more guns.
No they aren't, they are pointing to factual incidents where there are leftists that want to make it a crime for owning a gun.
The leftists are wanting to override the 2nd amendment.

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No they aren't, they are pointing to factual incidents where there are leftists that want to make it a crime for owning a gun.
The leftists are wanting to override the 2nd amendment.

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You can't tell me the gun marketing crowd doesn't exploit the uncertainty in politics to sell more guns.
 

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Has that happened in the mainstream? I'm not talking about stuff like an assault rifle ban (which I agree is idiotic). I guess I don't really follow stuff like this closely but has anyone said let's ban hunting rifles nationwide or anything like that?

I just get the feeling most of it is fearmongering.
The last time it came up for a vote in SCOTUS, the 4 liberal justices voted that the 2nd amendment does NOT guarantee a private individuals right to own a gun and Ginsberg in particular has stated they want another crack at it if they ever get 5 liberals on the court.

I don't believe it's fear mongering....there is no doubt in my mind that the left wants to repeal the 2nd amendment or at the very least restrict it so much that it may as well not exist
 

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No they aren't, they are pointing to factual incidents where there are leftists that want to make it a crime for owning a gun.
The leftists are wanting to override the 2nd amendment.

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You can't tell me the gun marketing crowd doesn't exploit the uncertainty in politics to sell more guns.
They don't have to because the people who like guns are going to buy more guns anyway. What you're talking about are the people who are noticing these leftists crying for taking away guns from people, and are telling everyone about it. There's a difference.
The people who are commenting about the liberals aren't the same as the ones who are able to take advantage of it and sell more guns. Besides you're acting like it's all made up anyway, which it's not they really are trying to get rid of guns.

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Has that happened in the mainstream? I'm not talking about stuff like an assault rifle ban (which I agree is idiotic). I guess I don't really follow stuff like this closely but has anyone said let's ban hunting rifles nationwide or anything like that?

I just get the feeling most of it is fearmongering.
so, just so I get this straight... you cannot use an AR15 to hunt?

Assault rifles ARE BANNED.... the discussion is about scary guns (assault STYLE) guns, that are really just the same as any other hunting gun, it's a matter of preference from there.

if you say ban "assault style" guns, then you are in effect saying ban hunting rifles.

unless you're specifically talking about only not banning bolt-action rifles and revolvers.
 

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They don't have to because the people who like guns are going to buy more guns anyway. What you're talking about are the people who are noticing these leftists crying for taking away guns from people, and are telling everyone about it. There's a difference.
The people who are commenting about the liberals aren't the same as the ones who are able to take advantage of it and sell more guns. Besides you're acting like it's all made up anyway, which it's not they really are trying to get rid of guns.

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I've found I can disagree or agree on these threads and get a fight. The fact that marketing finds a way to exploit fear to sell something is common sense and happens in every industry possible. The fact that leftists want to take your guns away is also believable. Both statements are true and easy to accept but both will get you a fight on here.

I'm not anti 2nd amendment, I'm anti stupid arguments. Otherwise logical people seem to lose their minds when it comes to this gun stuff.