New York legislature votes to legalize abortion up to birth, let non-doctors commit abortions

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Donnyboy

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He was what 50 when thet was filmed? Was his 60's when he was paying of porn stars his maturation period? He is pro-life now cause the bible thumpers eat it up. Like how many do you think he has paid for himself cause we know his MO is the be unfaithful and pay it off.
 
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Seriously, docjoctoo, if you care dearly about innocent little babies being slaughtered in the womb, then I hope you wouldn't be wrong and foolish enough to support SB13. Or seriously, do you want Oklahoma to become an exporter state for abortion?? If so, may God help you.

I'm certainly not pro abortion. This is because I believe in trying to nip the problem of abortion before it's even in the bud. The government should teach responsible sexual behavior in high school, including the various forms of birth control and help poor women with birth control. Teaching abstinence only in schools is far from enough, because hardly anyone remains that way.
Townie...we are talking about late-term abortion. Can you kill the baby described above or not? If not would you allow others to kill this baby?
 
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Of course not. No one is aborting viable babies at 9 months - fake news by those who want all abortion banned.
Townie...you must remember the Philadelphia "doctor" who delivered live healthy babies then snipped off their spinal cords leaving them to die of asphyxia. His was an unregulated abortion mill who killed (murdered ) dozens of babies at all stages of pregnancy and stacked them in his freezer. He didn't think he was doing wrong by doing these "late-term" abortions. He simply thought he was offering a service to women who needed help. He was finally found out and then convicted of murder.
 
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Townie...you must remember the Philadelphia "doctor" who delivered live healthy babies then snipped off their spinal cords leaving them to die of asphyxia. His was an unregulated abortion mill who killed (murdered ) dozens of babies at all stages of pregnancy and stacked them in his freezer. He didn't think he was doing wrong by doing these "late-term" abortions. He simply thought he was offering a service to women who needed help. He was finally found out and then convicted of murder.
He quite obviosly was a mass murderer. But banning all abortion and contraceptives isn't the solution to such gross problems in society.
 
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He quite obviosly was a mass murderer. But banning all abortion and contraceptives isn't the solution to such gross problems in society.
He quite obviosly was a mass murderer. But banning all abortion and contraceptives isn't the solution to such gross problems in society.
Townie...so which abortions should be acceptable?
 

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Townie...we are talking about late-term abortion. Can you kill the baby described above or not? If not would you allow others to kill this baby?
Of course not. No one is aborting viable babies at 9 months - fake news by those who want all abortion banned.
That tweet just says that all she did were considered "medically necessary", nothing about not doing late term. In fact she admits to doing them after 24 weeks but gives no upper limit.

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Of course not. No one is aborting viable babies at 9 months - fake news by those who want all abortion banned.
Townie...you must remember the Philadelphia "doctor" who delivered live healthy babies then snipped off their spinal cords leaving them to die of asphyxia. His was an unregulated abortion mill who killed (murdered ) dozens of babies at all stages of pregnancy and stacked them in his freezer. He didn't think he was doing wrong by doing these "late-term" abortions. He simply thought he was offering a service to women who needed help. He was finally found out and then convicted of murder.
Kermit Gosnell. Watch the documentary about him. Note the empty press seats because no one wanted to cover it.

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Kermit Gosnell. Watch the documentary about him. Note the empty press seats because no one wanted to cover it.

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When the Philidelphia authorities entered Dr. Gosnell's clinic they found...
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When the team members entered the clinic, they were appalled, describing it to the Grand Jury as 'filthy,' 'deplorable,' 'disgusting,' 'very unsanitary, very outdated, horrendous,' and 'by far, the worst' that these experienced investigators had ever encountered. There was blood on the floor. A stench of urine filled the air. A flea-infested cat was wandering through the facility, and there were cat feces on the stairs. Semi-conscious women scheduled for abortions were moaning in the waiting room or the recovery room, where they sat on dirty recliners covered with blood-stained blankets. All the women had been sedated by unlicensed staff – long before Gosnell arrived at the clinic – and staff members could not accurately state what medications or dosages they had administered to the waiting patients. Many of the medications in inventory were past their expiration dates… surgical procedure rooms were filthy and unsanitary… resembling 'a bad gas station restroom.' Instruments were not sterile. Equipment was rusty and outdated. Oxygen equipment was covered with dust, and had not been inspected. The same corroded suction tubing used for abortions was the only tubing available for oral airways if assistance for breathing was needed…[32]

[F]etal remains [were] haphazardly stored throughout the clinic– in bags, milk jugs, orange juice cartons, and even in cat-food containers... Gosnell admitted to Detective Wood that at least 10 to 20 percent... were probably older than 24 weeks [the legal limit]... In some instances, surgical incisions had been made at the base of the fetal skulls. The investigators found a row of jars containing just the severed feet of fetuses. In the basement, they discovered medical waste piled high. The intact 19-week fetus delivered by Mrs. Mongar three months earlier was in a freezer. In all, the remains of 45 fetuses were recovered ... at least two of them, and probably three, had been viable."[32]"