New evidence tying Hunter Biden business to communist China and Russia

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Nov 6, 2010
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Hes been under investigation in New York and will very well stands to face pretty serious charges once he loses legal protections enjoyed by heads of state. He’s going to have to answer some difficult questions pretty soon. The continued downfall of rump will be entertaining for all to witness.


He is not even worth $1 billion, it’s not even close. That’s just the image he wants to project. But I am unsurprised that his base of followers who don’t care about the fact that he cheats on his wives, and brags about groping women, also don’t care about his significant debts. Like that could never be a factor in any decisions he makes as president. Mmhmm. But I definitely believe he has made a ton of money off of being president. I suspect the main reason he wanted to be president is because of how financially lucrative it is. Obama could command hundreds of thousands of dollars per speech. I doubt people will pay rump that kind of money for a speech, but it is still pretty easy money.
I must admit, Trump is not stupid. He has draped himself in conservatism, and in the process, has galvanized half the country into his own defense. No matter what he has done or what he will do in the future, any attempt to hold him accountable won't be seen as a legitimate enforcement of law, but rather a persecution of conservatism. I almost wish he had been re-elected, as I think like Obi Wan, he'll be way more powerful in political death than he ever was in life.
 

Cimarron

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Hes been under investigation in New York and will very well stands to face pretty serious charges once he loses legal protections enjoyed by heads of state. He’s going to have to answer some difficult questions pretty soon. The continued downfall of rump will be entertaining for all to witness.


He is not even worth $1 billion, it’s not even close. That’s just the image he wants to project. But I am unsurprised that his base of followers who don’t care about the fact that he cheats on his wives, and brags about groping women, also don’t care about his significant debts. Like that could never be a factor in any decisions he makes as president. Mmhmm. But I definitely believe he has made a ton of money off of being president. I suspect the main reason he wanted to be president is because of how financially lucrative it is. Obama could command hundreds of thousands of dollars per speech. I doubt people will pay rump that kind of money for a speech, but it is still pretty easy money.
You might want to look into the history of....

Bill Clinton
LBJ
JFK

If you think money is a factor in how they govern then lets review Biden, Obama, Clinton..... For having nothing certainly fell into millions of dollars very rapidly from some rather questionable sources.

Do you understand how kickbacks work?

You might review the county commissioner scandals in Oklahoma back in the early to mid 1980s.
 

Cimarron

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I must admit, Trump is not stupid. He has draped himself in conservatism, and in the process, has galvanized half the country into his own defense. No matter what he has done or what he will do in the future, any attempt to hold him accountable won't be seen as a legitimate enforcement of law, but rather a persecution of conservatism. I almost wish he had been re-elected, as I think like Obi Wan, he'll be way more powerful in political death than he ever was in life.
Obama lied about the death of a US Ambassador, ran illegal guns to drug cartels, used federal agencies to spy of political opposition, had his "wing man" at the DOJ, and more. And liberals fall in line like little puppies.

Nixon would have been impeached for far less.
 
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Obama lied about the death of a US Ambassador, ran illegal guns to drug cartels, used federal agencies to spy of political opposition, had his "wing man" at the DOJ, and more. And liberals fall in line like little puppies.

Nixon would have been impeached for far less.
Dude, you are way too far off the reservation, but I hope you can find some peace in the fact that Obama and Hillary will never, ever, have any impact on your life.
 

Midnight Toker

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Hes been under investigation in New York and will very well stands to face pretty serious charges once he loses legal protections enjoyed by heads of state. He’s going to have to answer some difficult questions pretty soon. The continued downfall of rump will be entertaining for all to witness.


He is not even worth $1 billion, it’s not even close. That’s just the image he wants to project. But I am unsurprised that his base of followers who don’t care about the fact that he cheats on his wives, and brags about groping women, also don’t care about his significant debts. Like that could never be a factor in any decisions he makes as president. Mmhmm. But I definitely believe he has made a ton of money off of being president. I suspect the main reason he wanted to be president is because of how financially lucrative it is. Obama could command hundreds of thousands of dollars per speech. I doubt people will pay rump that kind of money for a speech, but it is still pretty easy money.
You might want to look into the history of....

Bill Clinton
LBJ
JFK

If you think money is a factor in how they govern then lets review Biden, Obama, Clinton..... For having nothing certainly fell into millions of dollars very rapidly from some rather questionable sources.

Do you understand how kickbacks work?

You might review the county commissioner scandals in Oklahoma back in the early to mid 1980s.
So we’re here talking about rump, and now you want me to go research all kinds of stuff about other presidents? Why? To Validate all the corruption that he’s involved in, it makes it OK because other people have done it?

I know exactly how Biden and Obama and Clinton ran into so much money. That is a very easy question to answer. Obama was getting as much as $500,000 for a 30 minute speech. How many of those do you think you need to do to make millions of dollars? And that’s before his massively lucrative book deals. George Bush was getting over $100,000 for a simple speech as well. It happens to be pretty popular for former presidents to go on the circuit making tons of money in speaking engagements and book deals. And both Obama and Biden have cashed in on that. The Clintons are a whole Nother deal, they made a bunch of legitimate money and probably a whole bunch more illegitimate money.

But, back on topic. It is certainly worthy of the publics knowledge to be aware of massive debts a president has potentially to a foreign entity. That is what we call a conflict of interest. That’s why he should have divested before taking office in the first place but he knew he was going to monetize his position in office. He even brazenly committed the illegal act of using his office to promote a brand (goya). Makes you wonder how much money the owner of that business bribed him with. Probably promised a substantial “donation” to the campaign, eh?

Certainly going to be very fun watching his legal entanglements unfold that he’s lost immunity. I guess it makes sense why he’s fighting so damn hard to keep the job for four more years. He’s got a lot of hell and headaches ahead of him in court. Sucks that his main lawyer is a sweaty old man who apparently likes to wipe his own snot filled hankerchief all over his sweaty face. Christ, you would think after fleecing the rump campaign for $20,000 a day he could afford some high-quality hair dye.
 
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cowboyinexile

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So we’re here talking about rump, and now you want me to go research all kinds of stuff about other presidents? Why? To Validate all the corruption that he’s involved in, it makes it OK because other people have done it?

I know exactly how Biden and Obama and Clinton ran into so much money. That is a very easy question to answer. Obama was getting as much as $500,000 for a 30 minute speech. How many of those do you think you need to do to make millions of dollars? And that’s before his massively lucrative book deals. George Bush was getting over $100,000 for a simple speech as well. It happens to be pretty popular for former presidents to go on the circuit making tons of money in speaking engagements and book deals. And both Obama and Biden have cashed in on that. The Clintons are a whole Nother deal, they made a bunch of legitimate money and probably a whole bunch more illegitimate money.

But, back on topic. It is certainly worthy of the publics knowledge to be aware of massive debts a president has potentially to a foreign entity. That is what we call a conflict of interest. That’s why he should have divested before taking office in the first place but he knew he was going to monetize his position in office. He even brazenly committed the illegal act of using his office to promote a brand (goya). Makes you wonder how much money the owner of that business bribed him with. Probably promised a substantial “donation” to the campaign, eh?

Certainly going to be very fun watching his legal entanglements unfold that he’s lost immunity. I guess it makes sense why he’s fighting so damn hard to keep the job for four more years. He’s got a lot of hell and headaches ahead of him in court. Sucks that his main lawyer is a sweaty old man who apparently likes to wipe his own snot filled hankerchief all over his sweaty face. Christ, you would think after fleecing the rump campaign for $20,000 a day he could afford some high-quality hair dye.

I hope he doesn't go to prison. With everything he has done him and Blagojevich should be roommates for the next decade or so but you have a base willing to commit treason for him to become a dictator so I don't see how jailing him does much good.

Best case he gets lawsuited into oblivion and the goosesteppers find a right winger who want to put America above his own narcissism and we close this chapter in American history.
 

Midnight Toker

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So we’re here talking about rump, and now you want me to go research all kinds of stuff about other presidents? Why? To Validate all the corruption that he’s involved in, it makes it OK because other people have done it?

I know exactly how Biden and Obama and Clinton ran into so much money. That is a very easy question to answer. Obama was getting as much as $500,000 for a 30 minute speech. How many of those do you think you need to do to make millions of dollars? And that’s before his massively lucrative book deals. George Bush was getting over $100,000 for a simple speech as well. It happens to be pretty popular for former presidents to go on the circuit making tons of money in speaking engagements and book deals. And both Obama and Biden have cashed in on that. The Clintons are a whole Nother deal, they made a bunch of legitimate money and probably a whole bunch more illegitimate money.

But, back on topic. It is certainly worthy of the publics knowledge to be aware of massive debts a president has potentially to a foreign entity. That is what we call a conflict of interest. That’s why he should have divested before taking office in the first place but he knew he was going to monetize his position in office. He even brazenly committed the illegal act of using his office to promote a brand (goya). Makes you wonder how much money the owner of that business bribed him with. Probably promised a substantial “donation” to the campaign, eh?

Certainly going to be very fun watching his legal entanglements unfold that he’s lost immunity. I guess it makes sense why he’s fighting so damn hard to keep the job for four more years. He’s got a lot of hell and headaches ahead of him in court. Sucks that his main lawyer is a sweaty old man who apparently likes to wipe his own snot filled hankerchief all over his sweaty face. Christ, you would think after fleecing the rump campaign for $20,000 a day he could afford some high-quality hair dye.

I hope he doesn't go to prison. With everything he has done him and Blagojevich should be roommates for the next decade or so but you have a base willing to commit treason for him to become a dictator so I don't see how jailing him does much good.

Best case he gets lawsuited into oblivion and the goosesteppers find a right winger who want to put America above his own narcissism and we close this chapter in American history.
I’m not necessarily calling for jail. That would probably never happen anyway. But if an investigation comes up with charges, and charges bring a trial or a plea agreement, then it is what it is. He would be known as the Felon ex president Who was also impeached. Putting a nice little cap on his legacy of stupidity & fakeness.
 

Midnight Toker

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Hes been under investigation in New York and will very well stands to face pretty serious charges once he loses legal protections enjoyed by heads of state. He’s going to have to answer some difficult questions pretty soon. The continued downfall of rump will be entertaining for all to witness.


He is not even worth $1 billion, it’s not even close. That’s just the image he wants to project. But I am unsurprised that his base of followers who don’t care about the fact that he cheats on his wives, and brags about groping women, also don’t care about his significant debts. Like that could never be a factor in any decisions he makes as president. Mmhmm. But I definitely believe he has made a ton of money off of being president. I suspect the main reason he wanted to be president is because of how financially lucrative it is. Obama could command hundreds of thousands of dollars per speech. I doubt people will pay rump that kind of money for a speech, but it is still pretty easy money.
I must admit, Trump is not stupid. He has draped himself in conservatism, and in the process, has galvanized half the country into his own defense. No matter what he has done or what he will do in the future, any attempt to hold him accountable won't be seen as a legitimate enforcement of law, but rather a persecution of conservatism. I almost wish he had been re-elected, as I think like Obi Wan, he'll be way more powerful in political death than he ever was in life.
I think he just took advantage of the one group of people stupid enough to fall for his type of rhetoric. Think about it, they knew that he’s cheated on every wife he’s ever had, they knew how many times he’s been sued & order to pay restitution. It’s the same people that simply didn’t care about the pussy grabbing or his associations with questionable characters who are now currently felons. They didn’t care when he, on camera, suggested that Russia do some thing about Clinton, not long before the DNC was hacked. It’s not exactly a scrupulous group of people with high standards for their candidate.

So I am frankly Unsurprised that he has such support from that group of people. I mean like actual preachers and priests and people who are supposed to be at high moral standard support him, all you have to do is say you are a Republican and you’re going to get a minimum of 60 million people voting for you. There are a ton of people who will only vote for one party and it doesn’t matter who that person is. It’s not a bad gig.

Perhaps not every person who works for him has the IQ of Forrest Gump, I’ll grant you that, and on the rare occasion he actually does listen to good advice, it probably worked out well for him. So there is that.
 
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I am not in favor of restricting free speech. The problem with restricting free speech it all depends on who is doing the censorship. Something Iran, Russia, China, Cuba and others like them favor.

And given you choose this response and didn't answer my question we can assume you are not in favor of free speech. Now we know.
Yet here you are with every talking point espoused directly from Donald Trump’s propaganda machine in OAN, Fox News, or Parlor etc. Your views are as toxic as I’ve ever seen, and your sources are total garbage. Almost every topic you start is a POS source, if you even bother with one (obviously from OAN in those threads).
There’s a reason the President of OSU had to give a press conference about Mike Gundy wearing a tshirt. It’s not because he was restricting Gundy’s Free Speech. It’s not because that tshirt stands for freedom. It’s because he was promoting a source that wasn’t credible. It’s because it’s a source of Controlled Media, which used to be the most obvious sign of the Commies.
Wake up and see that Controlled Media is censorship, and that’s the first priority the Trump GoP shoved down our throats. Only idiots agree with the “Leaders” that demand you see things their way and only their way. This administration has done more damage in my lifetime than anything else I’ve ever seen. This rift is worse than 9/11. By far. Right now the GOP is trying to push out their own GoP politicians (Georgia SoS) that won’t goose step with them. Yet here you are spitting up their material as factual. It’s pathetic. It’s like people somehow forgot what the 80’s were like with the USSR. That’s what you want if you’re pulling for an authoritarian that demands you consume only his approved “news.” We’ve subsidized more under this administration than any other time in history, yet you buy that pill that they’re conservatives fighting Socialism...you got had by a Salesman. Period. Audits will be damning, starting in about 60 days.
 

Cimarron

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Dude, you are way too far off the reservation, but I hope you can find some peace in the fact that Obama and Hillary will never, ever, have any impact on your life.
That simply isn't true. Obama was passing regulations that did have a negative impact on the business I'm in.
 

drbwh

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Yet here you are with every talking point espoused directly from Donald Trump’s propaganda machine in OAN, Fox News, or Parlor etc. Your views are as toxic as I’ve ever seen, and your sources are total garbage. Almost every topic you start is a POS source, if you even bother with one (obviously from OAN in those threads).
There’s a reason the President of OSU had to give a press conference about Mike Gundy wearing a tshirt. It’s not because he was restricting Gundy’s Free Speech. It’s not because that tshirt stands for freedom. It’s because he was promoting a source that wasn’t credible. It’s because it’s a source of Controlled Media, which used to be the most obvious sign of the Commies.
Wake up and see that Controlled Media is censorship, and that’s the first priority the Trump GoP shoved down our throats. Only idiots agree with the “Leaders” that demand you see things their way and only their way. This administration has done more damage in my lifetime than anything else I’ve ever seen. This rift is worse than 9/11. By far. Right now the GOP is trying to push out their own GoP politicians (Georgia SoS) that won’t goose step with them. Yet here you are spitting up their material as factual. It’s pathetic. It’s like people somehow forgot what the 80’s were like with the USSR. That’s what you want if you’re pulling for an authoritarian that demands you consume only his approved “news.” We’ve subsidized more under this administration than any other time in history, yet you buy that pill that they’re conservatives fighting Socialism...you got had by a Salesman. Period. Audits will be damning, starting in about 60 days.
um, ok. good post. irony is totally lost on you, sir.