New deal reached on the wall to avoid govt shutdown--National Emergency Declared

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Binman4OSU

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Report that a new deal has been struck in principle between Dems and Rep to avoid a shut down of the Govt.

Report the deal includes 55 miles of new barrier to be built with $1.4 billion allocated for that barrier.
 

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Report the deal would also restrict the total number of illegals which can be held in detention by ICE

Sean Hannity has already called for Trump to Veto it

Last night in Texas Trump told the rally they had started construction on the wall "right smack on the Rio Grande".....it is unknown what he was talking about as there is currently no construction project there that is known
 

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Even if this bill is signed, I'll bet not one foot of wall is built, but the restrictions on ICE will be set in stone. Even it this does result in construction, it's pointless, like building a house with only 1 wall and three open sides. I'd like to see Trump veto it.
 

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Also, the Dems pushing to restrict ICE in this way is insanity. It's like saying the police can only arrest a certain number of DUIs a month then have to let the rest go.
Official details are not known yet, but according Shelby R-Ala said the Dems have yielded the ground on requiring a cap of immigrants that can be held outside of the border area....The Dems were asking for a max cap of 16,500 illegals to be detained who were captured in the US and not at the border, but apparently they have backed off that.

Apparently the deal agreed to will restrict in full the funding of the number of detention beds available at border areas to 40,520. This is where the original funding set by Congress was but ICE had been routinely exceeding this by 10K+ and far exceeding their budget set by Congress. The Deal will force ICE to return to the number of detainees allowed to 40,520 which is all that has been funded.

Shelby said the WH has been involved and said the WH should support the deal they have struck
 
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Texas House republican Kay Granger who was one of the negotiators of the deal said she thinks Trump will sign it and said "I think everyone will say Good Work"

Hannity called it a garbage compromise
 

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Official details are not known yet, but according Shelby R-Ala said the Dems have yielded the ground on requiring a cap of immigrants that can be held outside of the border area....The Dems were asking for a max cap of 16,500 illegals to be detained who were captured in the US and not at the border, but apparently they have backed off that.

Apparently the deal agreed to will restrict in full the funding of the number of detention beds available at border areas to 40,520. This is where the original funding set by Congress was but ICE had been routinely exceeding this by 10K+ and far exceeding their budget set by Congress. The Deal will force ICE to return to the number of detainees allowed to 40,520 which is all that has been funded.

Shelby said the WH has been involved and said the WH should support the deal they have struck
In other words, the Dems are ok going over budget on just about anything, but want to draw a line in the sand on immigration enforcement spending.

I've said before, I would prefer the money for the wall be spent on detention space instead. Neither party is interested in that though (and I now suspect the Dems would argue strongly against it).
 
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After El Chapo conviction, use seized $14 BILLION to build border wall?
FEBRUARY 12, 2019
BY MARTIN WALSH

Could El Chapo’s seized drug money be used to build the border wall?
That’s one of the questions many are asking on Tuesday following news of the former drug kingpin being found guilty on all counts.

Mexico’s most notorious drug kingpin, Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, will spend the rest of his life in prison after a jury found him guilty on all 10 counts following a three month trial.

According to Breitbart, the United States has seized $14 billion from the former drug lord, which gave Sen. Ted Cruz a brilliant idea.

The Texas Republican introduced the Ensuring Lawful Collection of Hidden Assets to Provide Order (EL CHAPO) Act in April 2017, which calls for the use of the $14 billion seized from the cartel drug lord to be used to pay for the wall.

“Fourteen billion dollars will go a long way toward building a wall that will keep Americans safe and hinder the illegal flow of drugs, weapons, and individuals across our southern border,” Cruz said in a statement.

“Ensuring the safety and security of Texans is one of my top priorities,” he added.

Cruz said using criminally forfeited assets from El Chapo and other Mexican cartel members and drug dealers can “offset the wall’s cost and make meaningful progress toward achieving President Trump’s stated border security objectives.”

“The U.S. Government is currently seeking the criminal forfeiture of more than $14 billion in drug proceeds and illicit profits from El Chapo, the former leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel who was recently extradited to the U.S. to face criminal prosecution for numerous alleged drug-related crimes, including conspiracy to commit murder and money laundering,” Cruz added.

Wisconsin Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner proposed similar legislation in the U.S. House of Representatives, which would use money seized from drug cartels to fund a border wall.

“This is a way to fulfill the president’s desire to have Mexico pay for the wall,” Sensenbrenner, a member of the Judiciary Committee, told the Washington Examiner. “Having the money seized from Mexican drug cartels would mean that the bad Mexicans would end up paying for the wall, and the bad Mexicans have been terrorizing the good Mexicans with crime and kidnappings and murders within Mexico itself.”…

“The [Drug Enforcement Agency] has estimated that the gross receipts of the Mexican drug trade or somewhere between $19-$29 billion a year,” he said. “We don’t have to be 100 percent efficient to get the the money we need to completely pay for the wall relatively quickly.”

El Chapo’s $14 billion would fund well over half of the proposed wall along the southern border between the U.S. and Mexico.
 
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Report that a new deal has been struck in principle between Dems and Rep to avoid a shut down of the Govt.

Report the deal includes 55 miles of new barrier to be built with $1.4 billion allocated for that barrier.

So I guess the Pelosi no longer thinks the wall is immoral since she is willing to fund 1.4 billion for that purpose. So now that It is not immoral to build a wall Democrats just do not want to support it everywhere it is needed?
 

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After El Chapo conviction, use seized $14 BILLION to build border wall?
FEBRUARY 12, 2019
BY MARTIN WALSH

El Chapo’s $14 billion would fund well over half of the proposed wall along the southern border between the U.S. and Mexico.
Brilliant, I say every penny seized in the "war on drugs" should be used for border security and immigration enforcement.
 

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After El Chapo conviction, use seized $14 BILLION to build border wall?
FEBRUARY 12, 2019
BY MARTIN WALSH

Could El Chapo’s seized drug money be used to build the border wall?
That’s one of the questions many are asking on Tuesday following news of the former drug kingpin being found guilty on all counts.

Mexico’s most notorious drug kingpin, Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, will spend the rest of his life in prison after a jury found him guilty on all 10 counts following a three month trial.

According to Breitbart, the United States has seized $14 billion from the former drug lord, which gave Sen. Ted Cruz a brilliant idea.

The Texas Republican introduced the Ensuring Lawful Collection of Hidden Assets to Provide Order (EL CHAPO) Act in April 2017, which calls for the use of the $14 billion seized from the cartel drug lord to be used to pay for the wall.

“Fourteen billion dollars will go a long way toward building a wall that will keep Americans safe and hinder the illegal flow of drugs, weapons, and individuals across our southern border,” Cruz said in a statement.

“Ensuring the safety and security of Texans is one of my top priorities,” he added.

Cruz said using criminally forfeited assets from El Chapo and other Mexican cartel members and drug dealers can “offset the wall’s cost and make meaningful progress toward achieving President Trump’s stated border security objectives.”

“The U.S. Government is currently seeking the criminal forfeiture of more than $14 billion in drug proceeds and illicit profits from El Chapo, the former leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel who was recently extradited to the U.S. to face criminal prosecution for numerous alleged drug-related crimes, including conspiracy to commit murder and money laundering,” Cruz added.

Wisconsin Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner proposed similar legislation in the U.S. House of Representatives, which would use money seized from drug cartels to fund a border wall.

“This is a way to fulfill the president’s desire to have Mexico pay for the wall,” Sensenbrenner, a member of the Judiciary Committee, told the Washington Examiner. “Having the money seized from Mexican drug cartels would mean that the bad Mexicans would end up paying for the wall, and the bad Mexicans have been terrorizing the good Mexicans with crime and kidnappings and murders within Mexico itself.”…

“The [Drug Enforcement Agency] has estimated that the gross receipts of the Mexican drug trade or somewhere between $19-$29 billion a year,” he said. “We don’t have to be 100 percent efficient to get the the money we need to completely pay for the wall relatively quickly.”

El Chapo’s $14 billion would fund well over half of the proposed wall along the southern border between the U.S. and Mexico.
It would be the most justified case of civil forfeiture there ever was.
 

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Well that sucks, I hope Trump doesn't go through with that.....the next Dem president will begin declaring national emergencies over climate change, guns, healthcare, college tuition, housing, bathrooms and anything else that comes to mind. :(