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So many of you use the word socialism to describe what you hate. Let's examine that word as it applies to politics in this country.

Those advocating more and more military spending are more often than not are Republicans. But you Republicans(or whatever the party has morphed into-which is far worse than what was the grand old party) who advocate for more military spending are definitely advocating for a form of what is commonly said to be socialism. That would be the fact that our military services are funded by taxes collected from all of us. A closer look at all the spending on the military reveals huge segments of that spending going to social programs(health care, retirement plans, etc., etc.). As a veteran myself I also conclude that there would be no Veterans Administration if there were no military spending to begin with. Thus, a whole other layer of social programs. Even though many of you Republicans who never served could care less about what happens to soldiers after they sacrifice for you and everyone else, you are supporting social programs through your advocacy for more and more military spending. So look in the mirror at your socialist face.

Let's talk about redistribution of wealth. People like me advocate for a tax code that is more favorable to millions of people instead of a tax code that favors the few. Almost all current Republicans cheered on the latest tax cuts. But that tax cut was just the latest redistribution of wealth to the few that you have applauded. No doubt about it, you have consistently supported redistribution of wealth to less than 1% of the people. You started your redistribution of wealth applause beginning with the Reagan years trickle-down economic theories. A side note is that you should have been careful what you wished for. In Kansas, such policies have ruined Kansas. And then, since many of you live in Oklahoma, you then cheered on a trickle-down policy here in Oklahoma. As usual, it has been a complete disaster here in Oklahoma. So don't take aim at Bernie Sanders or any of us who want a tax code that favors millions of people over the few. You oppose what we advocate, and in doing so, look in the mirror, you prove over and over again that your socialist face is the face you see in your mirror.
 

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So many of you use the word socialism to describe what you hate. Let's examine that word as it applies to politics in this country.

Those advocating more and more military spending are more often than not are Republicans. But you Republicans(or whatever the party has morphed into-which is far worse than what was the grand old party) who advocate for more military spending are definitely advocating for a form of what is commonly said to be socialism. That would be the fact that our military services are funded by taxes collected from all of us. A closer look at all the spending on the military reveals huge segments of that spending going to social programs(health care, retirement plans, etc., etc.). As a veteran myself I also conclude that there would be no Veterans Administration if there were no military spending to begin with. Thus, a whole other layer of social programs. Even though many of you Republicans who never served could care less about what happens to soldiers after they sacrifice for you and everyone else, you are supporting social programs through your advocacy for more and more military spending. So look in the mirror at your socialist face.

Let's talk about redistribution of wealth. People like me advocate for a tax code that is more favorable to millions of people instead of a tax code that favors the few. Almost all current Republicans cheered on the latest tax cuts. But that tax cut was just the latest redistribution of wealth to the few that you have applauded. No doubt about it, you have consistently supported redistribution of wealth to less than 1% of the people. You started your redistribution of wealth applause beginning with the Reagan years trickle-down economic theories. A side note is that you should have been careful what you wished for. In Kansas, such policies have ruined Kansas. And then, since many of you live in Oklahoma, you then cheered on a trickle-down policy here in Oklahoma. As usual, it has been a complete disaster here in Oklahoma. So don't take aim at Bernie Sanders or any of us who want a tax code that favors millions of people over the few. You oppose what we advocate, and in doing so, look in the mirror, you prove over and over again that your socialist face is the face you see in your mirror.
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So many of you use the word socialism to describe what you hate. Let's examine that word as it applies to politics in this country.

Those advocating more and more military spending are more often than not are Republicans. But you Republicans(or whatever the party has morphed into-which is far worse than what was the grand old party) who advocate for more military spending are definitely advocating for a form of what is commonly said to be socialism. That would be the fact that our military services are funded by taxes collected from all of us. A closer look at all the spending on the military reveals huge segments of that spending going to social programs(health care, retirement plans, etc., etc.). As a veteran myself I also conclude that there would be no Veterans Administration if there were no military spending to begin with. Thus, a whole other layer of social programs. Even though many of you Republicans who never served could care less about what happens to soldiers after they sacrifice for you and everyone else, you are supporting social programs through your advocacy for more and more military spending. So look in the mirror at your socialist face.

Let's talk about redistribution of wealth. People like me advocate for a tax code that is more favorable to millions of people instead of a tax code that favors the few. Almost all current Republicans cheered on the latest tax cuts. But that tax cut was just the latest redistribution of wealth to the few that you have applauded. No doubt about it, you have consistently supported redistribution of wealth to less than 1% of the people. You started your redistribution of wealth applause beginning with the Reagan years trickle-down economic theories. A side note is that you should have been careful what you wished for. In Kansas, such policies have ruined Kansas. And then, since many of you live in Oklahoma, you then cheered on a trickle-down policy here in Oklahoma. As usual, it has been a complete disaster here in Oklahoma. So don't take aim at Bernie Sanders or any of us who want a tax code that favors millions of people over the few. You oppose what we advocate, and in doing so, look in the mirror, you prove over and over again that your socialist face is the face you see in your mirror.
Wow. Really, all I have....Wow.
 

CaliforniaCowboy

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So many of you use the word socialism to describe what you hate. Let's examine that word as it applies to politics in this country.

Those advocating more and more military spending are more often than not are Republicans. But you Republicans(or whatever the party has morphed into-which is far worse than what was the grand old party) who advocate for more military spending are definitely advocating for a form of what is commonly said to be socialism. That would be the fact that our military services are funded by taxes collected from all of us. A closer look at all the spending on the military reveals huge segments of that spending going to social programs(health care, retirement plans, etc., etc.). As a veteran myself I also conclude that there would be no Veterans Administration if there were no military spending to begin with. Thus, a whole other layer of social programs. Even though many of you Republicans who never served could care less about what happens to soldiers after they sacrifice for you and everyone else, you are supporting social programs through your advocacy for more and more military spending. So look in the mirror at your socialist face.

Let's talk about redistribution of wealth. People like me advocate for a tax code that is more favorable to millions of people instead of a tax code that favors the few. Almost all current Republicans cheered on the latest tax cuts. But that tax cut was just the latest redistribution of wealth to the few that you have applauded. No doubt about it, you have consistently supported redistribution of wealth to less than 1% of the people. You started your redistribution of wealth applause beginning with the Reagan years trickle-down economic theories. A side note is that you should have been careful what you wished for. In Kansas, such policies have ruined Kansas. And then, since many of you live in Oklahoma, you then cheered on a trickle-down policy here in Oklahoma. As usual, it has been a complete disaster here in Oklahoma. So don't take aim at Bernie Sanders or any of us who want a tax code that favors millions of people over the few. You oppose what we advocate, and in doing so, look in the mirror, you prove over and over again that your socialist face is the face you see in your mirror.
actually we use the word "socialism" to define what we oppose (i.e., tyranny and oppression), not what we hate. We oppose anything that unjustly infringes on our liberty and freedom.

We like a big military because it helps ensure our freedom and liberty (from communists and socialists)

Let's not talk about redistribution of wealth, let's implement measures to ensure that it never happens.

The VA programs are COMPENSATION... not "social programs". They earned it. It's part of what society owes to them for their sacrifice.

how can one person miss so badly on so many points?
 
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So many of you use the word socialism to describe what you hate. Let's examine that word as it applies to politics in this country.

Those advocating more and more military spending are more often than not are Republicans. But you Republicans(or whatever the party has morphed into-which is far worse than what was the grand old party) who advocate for more military spending are definitely advocating for a form of what is commonly said to be socialism. That would be the fact that our military services are funded by taxes collected from all of us. A closer look at all the spending on the military reveals huge segments of that spending going to social programs(health care, retirement plans, etc., etc.). As a veteran myself I also conclude that there would be no Veterans Administration if there were no military spending to begin with. Thus, a whole other layer of social programs. Even though many of you Republicans who never served could care less about what happens to soldiers after they sacrifice for you and everyone else, you are supporting social programs through your advocacy for more and more military spending. So look in the mirror at your socialist face.

Let's talk about redistribution of wealth. People like me advocate for a tax code that is more favorable to millions of people instead of a tax code that favors the few. Almost all current Republicans cheered on the latest tax cuts. But that tax cut was just the latest redistribution of wealth to the few that you have applauded. No doubt about it, you have consistently supported redistribution of wealth to less than 1% of the people. You started your redistribution of wealth applause beginning with the Reagan years trickle-down economic theories. A side note is that you should have been careful what you wished for. In Kansas, such policies have ruined Kansas. And then, since many of you live in Oklahoma, you then cheered on a trickle-down policy here in Oklahoma. As usual, it has been a complete disaster here in Oklahoma. So don't take aim at Bernie Sanders or any of us who want a tax code that favors millions of people over the few. You oppose what we advocate, and in doing so, look in the mirror, you prove over and over again that your socialist face is the face you see in your mirror.
actually we use the word "socialism" to define what we oppose (i.e., tyranny and oppression), not what we hate. We oppose anything that unjustly infringes on our liberty and freedom.

We like a big military because it helps ensure our freedom and liberty (from communists and socialists)

Let's not talk about redistribution of wealth, let's implement measures to ensure that it never happens.

The VA programs are COMPENSATION... not "social programs". They earned it. It's part of what society owes to them for their sacrifice.

how can one person miss so badly on so many points?
Opinions vary.
 

StillwaterTownie

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Let's not talk about redistribution of wealth, let's implement measures to ensure that it never happens.
Let's do. Like it or not, in a civilized society some means for redistribution of wealth must be done to help the poor, the disabled or those wiped out by disaster. Once again, the never ending debate over that issue revolves around the government doing it through welfare programs or leave it totally up to private charity as leaders from an earlier time have suggested. In our society both ways are used to redistribute the wealth.
 

CaliforniaCowboy

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Let's do. Like it or not, in a civilized society some means for redistribution of wealth must be done to help the poor, the disabled or those wiped out by disaster. Once again, the never ending debate over that issue revolves around the government doing it through welfare programs or leave it totally up to private charity as leaders from an earlier time have suggested. In our society both ways are used to redistribute the wealth.
No. In a free republic NO wealth redistribution is needed or required.

Nobody has an obligation to help anybody else. That is a religious belief. "Do unto others"

Charity is NOT wealth redistribution. It is charity. It is kinship to humankind.

wealth redistribution is taking my money and giving it to others that do not need it or deserve it.

Wealth redistribution is a marxist concept, nothing more.

I should be the only person that decides what is done with my money.

Besides --- like I've said to you 100 times already, the discussion is about HOW to do it, not whether it should be done. It should be done with free market approaches, not government management (mismanagement)

Let's talk
 

oks10

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So "BBALL64" comes in with 3 raging rants, sh*tting on conservatives then just bails and doesn't respond to a single comment? Yeah, I think it's safe to say someone's just trying to stir up sock drama. We should just let these threads die...
 
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So "BBALL64" comes in with 3 raging rants, sh*tting on conservatives then just bails and doesn't respond to a single comment?
It is the way of the Angry Buddhist. All bark, no bite. We saw this tactic on the other board from him all the time. A tip...... If he brings up Karl Rove or Dick Cheney (his personal favorite anti-christs) you know he's ready to blow.
 
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kaboy42

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So "BBALL64" comes in with 3 raging rants, sh*tting on conservatives then just bails and doesn't respond to a single comment? Yeah, I think it's safe to say someone's just trying to stir up sock drama. We should just let these threads die...
But... but... butt... butter. :(


 

pokes16

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Every time I get paid, part of my wealth gets redistributed from me to others. The more I get paid, the more gets redistributed. I pay for idiots in the government who admit to trying to stop the duly elected President of the US. I pay for those already on SS and for those on Medicare and Medicaid. I pay for midnight basketball, and for grants for professors who study inane ideas to prove things that any sane person either already knows or does not care about. I even pay for the electricity, and the salaries of senators who read HS yearbooks and discuss flatulence. And If I refuse to have my wealth distributed, then I can have all my assets taken away or I can go to jail.

So YES. anyone who makes a certain amount of income already suffers from the ravages of wealth redistribution. And those who make the most suffer the worst of it.
 
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