Military Favors Ron Paul Over McCain

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kaje

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Military Favors Ron Paul Over McCain

The US Department of Elections has released the Selected Presidential Reports for the 2007 July Quarterly, and there are a few surprises. No surprise, of course, is that people in the armed services and veterans overwhelmingly support the Republican Party. However, after digging through individual candidates’ contributions by employers, we find an elating (or disturbing, if you’re rooting for Rudy McRomney) trend. The breakdown? Here you go.



This table expresses in dollars the total campaign contributions that each candidate has received from individuals who marked “Air Force,” “US Marines,” “USMC,” “Army,” “Navy,” or some other such permutation of letters as their employer that gives the appearance that they are a member of the armed services. The “veteran” column was derived by looking for “retired ______,” “______ retired,” or anything containing the word veteran, with the exception of Veterans’ Affairs (or the like).

What conclusions can be drawn from this surprising, exciting information? One might jump to the conclusion that the troops are tired and demoralized and angry to be fighting in the desert sand, and willing to leap on the only Republican candidate who wants an immediate end to the war. But that’s an insufficient explanation, since veterans favor Ron Paul as well.

Our military forces have a strong tradition of valorization and an implicit belief that they have served to protect the freedom of private citizens in the United States. So profound is this belief that it ranks as the #1 reason that veterans and active duty say they joined (even though education ranks as the #1 reason prior to enlistment).

This culture of pride in service particularly to safeguard American liberties and freedoms — regardless of whether it is true or not — disinclines those in service to contribute to candidates like Romney and Giuliani who want to expand Executive power and increase spying on Americans. This is why Ron Paul and John McCain are the clearest front-runners in terms of contributions. Well, that and the fact that McCain was a Captain in the Navy and Ron Paul was a flight surgeon.

Or … (one final thought) … does it run in the other direction? Does the military favor Paul and McCain because they were military, or do Ron Paul and John McCain have a favorable set of values for military servicemen and women because they themselves have served?

:) Look for more analysis of these contribution schedules in the upcoming days!
 

okstateguy987

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Military Favors Ron Paul Over McCain

The US Department of Elections has released the Selected Presidential Reports for the 2007 July Quarterly, and there are a few surprises. No surprise, of course, is that people in the armed services and veterans overwhelmingly support the Republican Party. However, after digging through individual candidates’ contributions by employers, we find an elating (or disturbing, if you’re rooting for Rudy McRomney) trend. The breakdown? Here you go.



This table expresses in dollars the total campaign contributions that each candidate has received from individuals who marked “Air Force,” “US Marines,” “USMC,” “Army,” “Navy,” or some other such permutation of letters as their employer that gives the appearance that they are a member of the armed services. The “veteran” column was derived by looking for “retired ______,” “______ retired,” or anything containing the word veteran, with the exception of Veterans’ Affairs (or the like).

What conclusions can be drawn from this surprising, exciting information? One might jump to the conclusion that the troops are tired and demoralized and angry to be fighting in the desert sand, and willing to leap on the only Republican candidate who wants an immediate end to the war. But that’s an insufficient explanation, since veterans favor Ron Paul as well.

Our military forces have a strong tradition of valorization and an implicit belief that they have served to protect the freedom of private citizens in the United States. So profound is this belief that it ranks as the #1 reason that veterans and active duty say they joined (even though education ranks as the #1 reason prior to enlistment).

This culture of pride in service particularly to safeguard American liberties and freedoms — regardless of whether it is true or not — disinclines those in service to contribute to candidates like Romney and Giuliani who want to expand Executive power and increase spying on Americans. This is why Ron Paul and John McCain are the clearest front-runners in terms of contributions. Well, that and the fact that McCain was a Captain in the Navy and Ron Paul was a flight surgeon.

Or … (one final thought) … does it run in the other direction? Does the military favor Paul and McCain because they were military, or do Ron Paul and John McCain have a favorable set of values for military servicemen and women because they themselves have served?

:) Look for more analysis of these contribution schedules in the upcoming days!
This culture of pride in service particularly to safeguard American liberties and freedoms — regardless of whether it is true or not
I'm not sure why anyone would even question that

About the only constructive statement was the last paragraph. It's almost nothing to talk about either. Of course the military supports them because they are former servicemen. Whoever wrote this piece is trying to be a psychologist to the military, and obviously trying to impose their anti-Bush administration feelings on them.
 
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It should read Military Favors Ron Paul Over Every Other Candidate. And this isn't in votes, it's in dollars. This is huge news.
 
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Amount of dollars the Republican candidates took in during Q2.


Romney - over 20 mil

Rudy - over 17 mil

McCain - over 11 mil

Paul - about 2.5 mil (two point five mil)


If Paul is gonna have much of a chance at the nomination, he'll need plenty more than that. He did get more than the other Republican candidates, like Huckabee, Brownback, etc.
 
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Amount of dollars the Republican candidates took in during Q2.


Romney - over 20 mil

Rudy - over 17 mil

McCain - over 11 mil

Paul - about 2.5 mil (two point five mil)


If Paul is gonna have much of a chance at the nomination, he'll need plenty more than that. He did get more than the other Republican candidates, like Huckabee, Brownback, etc.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those gross cumulative figures that you posted, not just donations in the 2nd quarter? Because I believe Paul actually drew more donations than McCain for the quarter.

And I also believe it was reported that McCain's campaign is running a deficit thus far as well. I'd like to see some net figures.

But considering that someone like Ron Paul who many people continue to marginalize and say is a joke, for him to pull in $2.5 mill (almost every dollar rolling in post-GOP debates) with very little to no mainstream exposure speaks volumes.

And surely all of the warhawks on this board would have some reaction to the soldiers and vets who are overwhelmingly financially supporting Ron Paul?
 
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Those numbers are from the website posted in this thread ... supposed to be for Q2 ... you can also get the starting cash going into Q2.

Big picture money-wise, here's what's happening. Hillary and Obama are pulling in more than anyone else. Romney and Rudy are doing well on the Republican side. McCain is struggling, just let a bunch of staffers go. Hard to get the total percentage he cut, but it's way up there, maybe as much as half the staff. Thompson is yet to make numbers public as he's not officially declared. But he has to report numbers to IRS in a couple weeks. Edwards is solid third for Dems in fund raising.

Paul has done pretty well, given expectations. But he's not close to McCain in fund raising and McCain is fairly close to seeing his campaign mostly finished ... never say never in politics ... see Nixon after losing California governor's race in 62. Paul is getting some press, editorial in WSJ the other day discussing him and libertarian view of national security (mostly about the latter). Good read.