MBB: Big12 Zebras Defeat the Cowboys 70-78 (OSU was down 2 with 30sec to BU) Next up KSU on Tuesday

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Nov 14, 2010
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Disagree completely. I thought it was a foul on the defender. And at that crucial point in the game, you can't call that a foul. It was blatantly wrong to do so. But.......I'll agree to disagree.
The good thing about the way you post is that you call a Spade a Spade in terms of how you see things.

If something deserves criticism it gets it.

On the Vice Versa...if it deserves praise it gets that too

If you agree you say why and defend it

If you disagree you say why and defend that too.

That's a healthy way to view something we're all passionate about because it creates a balanced view on things because you dont enter with pre concieved ideas...
 

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Had the roles been reversed on the ice play guarantee you it’s an and 1 or no call for Baylor. Not to mention there’s was a lot of contract as he was backing his was down to the basket. Which when Baylor did that any contact by osu was instantly whistled. Proof being the 21 fouls called in the second half on osu alone.


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Post from Baylor Message Board.
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1:38a, 2/9/20


Seemed to me the officials were hesitant to call anything on OSU but very eager to call fouls on the Bears. This allowed OSU to score many easy shots while the Bears struggled to play physical defense. Meanwhile, the OSU defense got away with many hacks and no calls when the Bears were on offense or going for rebounds. I can't believe the OSU coach got angry with the officiating and was subsequently ejected. In reality, the officiating was the primary reason this game was close.
 
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My take watching it in real time was probably no call. There was some body contact by Baylor, but end of game, no call. Then the whistle blew and I thought, damn, we get a 3 pt play. Silly me. I should know by now that Baylor will never suffer any consequence, no matter what they do.
 
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RedBear05
1:38a, 2/9/20


Seemed to me the officials were hesitant to call anything on OSU but very eager to call fouls on the Bears. This allowed OSU to score many easy shots while the Bears struggled to play physical defense. Meanwhile, the OSU defense got away with many hacks and no calls when the Bears were on offense or going for rebounds. I can't believe the OSU coach got angry with the officiating and was subsequently ejected. In reality, the officiating was the primary reason this game was close.
Talk about green glasses. OSU had 4 foul out and the officials were hesitant to call anything on OSU. Stupid is as stupid does.
 

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Post from Baylor Message Board.
RedBear05
1:38a, 2/9/20


Seemed to me the officials were hesitant to call anything on OSU but very eager to call fouls on the Bears. This allowed OSU to score many easy shots while the Bears struggled to play physical defense. Meanwhile, the OSU defense got away with many hacks and no calls when the Bears were on offense or going for rebounds. I can't believe the OSU coach got angry with the officiating and was subsequently ejected. In reality, the officiating was the primary reason this game was close.
Lololololololololol..... Did he somehow look at the box score and get the fouls mixed up?

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Lololololololololol..... Did he somehow look at the box score and get the fouls mixed up?

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Wasn’t the game in Stillwater close too?!

Hard to imagine how this one was suddenly close because we got so much favoritism from the officials in their gym. The call on ice and the phantom foul on the rebound are beyond unexplainable even for the most green or orange Kool-Aid drinkers. Watch the tape. It’s simple.

There were certainly some questionable calls in our favor as well. But for any fan of an undisputed number one team to come out and cry about refs being against them is beyond laughable. It’s like when the OU and Texas football fans bitch about refs, or KU basketball fans.
 

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I think the bias is more sub-concious than conscious. Refs are influenced by the crowd. they are human. They enter a game knowing who the better team is. It is not a conspiracy, but just human nature. We are all biased.
I actually tend to agree with you for the most part. I seriously doubt there's anything overtly unethical (payments, etc...) but definitely believe there was a lot of weirdness in that game. Again...I think a lot of it is just poor officiating across all of college hoops.
 
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I think the bias is more sub-concious than conscious. Refs are influenced by the crowd. they are human. They enter a game knowing who the better team is. It is not a conspiracy, but just human nature. We are all biased.
There are three kinds of officials in the world

1. The official that is going to ignore the crowd and do their job
2. The official that is going to placate the home crowd so they can be cheered
3. The official that is going to make a majority of calls against the home team to show they are hard nosed.

I have officiated and I have been on crews with all three types. The most annoying is the third type of official because they are normally asshats anyway. The one that placates and needs to be loved is more dangerous, as was witnessed yesterday because they need that extra love from the crowd. As Belicheck would say, "Do your job." We didn't see that Saturday.

I do realize there is the 4th kind of official, the incompetent idiot that does not know the rules. Since these guys are actually calling the game at the college level we should assume they have been competent at one time or another.
 

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There are three kinds of officials in the world

1. The official that is going to ignore the crowd and do their job
2. The official that is going to placate the home crowd so they can be cheered
3. The official that is going to make a majority of calls against the home team to show they are hard nosed.

I have officiated and I have been on crews with all three types. The most annoying is the third type of official because they are normally asshats anyway. The one that placates and needs to be loved is more dangerous, as was witnessed yesterday because they need that extra love from the crowd. As Belicheck would say, "Do your job." We didn't see that Saturday.

I do realize there is the 4th kind of official, the incompetent idiot that does not know the rules. Since these guys are actually calling the game at the college level we should assume they have been competent at one time or another.
That last statement may be up for debate i.e. Central Michigan debacle.:)
 
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From Frank Bonner II: OSU coach Mike Boynton and senior Thomas Dziagwa bond over books to create a relationship deeper than basketball

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