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Of course there can, and there always has been and always will be. The golden rule, those with the gold, make the rules. You sound like a liberal if you think justice is ever going to or has ever been applied evenly. We can certainly strive for that, but regardless of where we end up on that score, the issue of prosecuting the losers of our elections for whatever offenses the opposition (those now in power) decide to pursue is bad precedent, and I am quite happy to let Clinton, Trump, or whoever else go off into the sunset without criminal prosecution to preserve our democratic integrity.
this has nothing to do with elections or winners going after the losers.... she was accused well before she ran for President... and if she took bribes as Secretary of State, then lock her up... just like Manafort being sent to Rikers for a crime he committed over a decade ago.

letting politicians break the law without consequence will not preserve anything.. much less preserve "democratic integrity".

good lord
 

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How about losing the sringhat. Seems like a pretty strong rebuke of the Clintons to me. I don't understand why all of these discussions devolve into "someone is going to prison". We should all be grateful and hopeful that the transfer of power in this country does not include jailing the losers. As much as I despise Trump, I sincerely hope he is not prosecuted for anything. Not to say any of them are above the law, but ave achieved this level have cut corners. The ability to abdicate peacefully is maybe the most important pillar of our country.
this has nothing to do with elections or winners going after the losers.... she was accused well before she ran for President... and if she took bribes as Secretary of State, then lock her up... just like Manafort being sent to Rikers for a crime he committed over a decade ago.

letting politicians break the law without consequence will not preserve anything.. much less preserve "democratic integrity".

good lord
Amen, freakin socialists. Hillary is a lying thief and was aided by the liar obama and both should be in prison.
 
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this has nothing to do with elections or winners going after the losers.... she was accused well before she ran for President... and if she took bribes as Secretary of State, then lock her up... just like Manafort being sent to Rikers for a crime he committed over a decade ago.

letting politicians break the law without consequence will not preserve anything.. much less preserve "democratic integrity".

good lord
And if Trump is guilty of tax evasion?? Lock him up?? I say no. Our institutions are above technicalities. Let the ballot box be the judge.
 

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How about losing the 2016 presidential election, to a nut like Trump on top of that. Seems like a pretty strong rebuke of the Clintons to me. I don't understand why all of these discussions devolve into "someone is going to prison". We should all be grateful and hopeful that the transfer of power in this country does not include jailing the losers. As much as I despise Trump, I sincerely hope he is not prosecuted for anything. Not to say any of them are above the law, but all of them that have achieved this level have cut corners. The ability to abdicate peacefully is maybe the most important pillar of our country.
You must be referring to Socialistic integrity...everyone of your scumbags has become a millionaire under Capitalism yet they want their "fair govt" to tell the masses where their money is best spent. F'n hypocrites.
 

Cowboy2U

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And if Trump is guilty of tax evasion?? Lock him up?? I say no. Our institutions are above technicalities. Let the ballot box be the judge.
Keep the argument to "while in office", everyone has a skeleton in some closet. Under those terms, hillary and barack can cohabitate a cell for the balance of their rotten lives. Bill would love it, he could turn little willie loose again.
 
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How about losing the 2016 presidential election, to a nut like Trump on top of that. Seems like a pretty strong rebuke of the Clintons to me. I don't understand why all of these discussions devolve into "someone is going to prison". We should all be grateful and hopeful that the transfer of power in this country does not include jailing the losers. As much as I despise Trump, I sincerely hope he is not prosecuted for anything. Not to say any of them are above the law, but all of them that have achieved this level have cut corners. The ability to abdicate peacefully is maybe the most important pillar of our country.
I didn’t get elected president in 2016 either. I must have committed some pretty heinous crimes. I’ll have to go back and check my schedules.
 
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And if Trump is guilty of tax evasion?? Lock him up?? I say no. Our institutions are above technicalities. Let the ballot box be the judge.
that is just plain stupidity.... he has CPA's and tax attorney's directing him.... misinterpreting the law or misapplying deductions can result in the filing being denied, taxes owed and possibly penalties applied, but to lock someone up for that is ridiculous (possible but not probable). They would have to show intentional fraud or some crap.

If he didn't properly pay his taxes then he should do so... same with Warren Buffet who has been in a tax dispute with the IRS for freaking ever. And Buffet has nothing to do with a ballot box.
 
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And if Trump is guilty of tax evasion?? Lock him up?? I say no. Our institutions are above technicalities. Let the ballot box be the judge.
People like this just don't get locked up over taxes....

When Warren Buffett penned that op-ed demanding he be taxed more, we assumed that meant he had actually paid his taxes. Not quite the case. Buffett's famed company, Berkshire Hathaway, owes taxes that are nearly a decade old.

[...] They promise they'll work it out with the IRS within the next year. Can't Buffett just take a little out of his piggy bank and pay up? For a man who so actively preaches honesty and integrity, we're a little baffled as to why Berkshire won't just fork over what it owes.
 

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People like this just don't get locked up over taxes....

When Warren Buffett penned that op-ed demanding he be taxed more, we assumed that meant he had actually paid his taxes. Not quite the case. Buffett's famed company, Berkshire Hathaway, owes taxes that are nearly a decade old.

[...] They promise they'll work it out with the IRS within the next year. Can't Buffett just take a little out of his piggy bank and pay up? For a man who so actively preaches honesty and integrity, we're a little baffled as to why Berkshire won't just fork over what it owes.
But he's just an old grampa eatin' an ice cream cone!
 

Cowboy2U

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People like this just don't get locked up over taxes....

When Warren Buffett penned that op-ed demanding he be taxed more, we assumed that meant he had actually paid his taxes. Not quite the case. Buffett's famed company, Berkshire Hathaway, owes taxes that are nearly a decade old.

[...] They promise they'll work it out with the IRS within the next year. Can't Buffett just take a little out of his piggy bank and pay up? For a man who so actively preaches honesty and integrity, we're a little baffled as to why Berkshire won't just fork over what it owes.
Careful...if your reply touches a liberal nerve he'll put you on ignore. Guys a buffoon.
 
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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/taxevasion.asp

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tax_avoidance.asp

Buffet is at the head of a publicly traded company. He is responsible to shareholders, so tax avoidance is not voluntary. Not that this is relevant to my point though.
that statement makes zero sense. If you have CPA's and tax attorney's putting their names on your returns, then it almost certainly would fall under the tax avoidance definition that you listed.

"Tax avoidance is not voluntary"? what the heck does that even mean? Not voluntary... heck that is THE GOAL.

everybody is "responsible to" somebody, doesn't matter if your publicly traded, a private company, or a non-profit. I do "tax avoidance, you do tax avoidance, everybody tries to take all the deductions that they can.

I don't know what your point was, except to suggest that some people should not ever be held accountable for their wrong doings if they held a public office at some point... I think that was your point.
 

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Nothing about the last 30 years has led me to believe that anyone associated with the Clintons will ever be held accountable for anything. I'd be happy to admit that I'm wrong.
How about losing the 2016 presidential election, to a nut like Trump on top of that. Seems like a pretty strong rebuke of the Clintons to me. I don't understand why all of these discussions devolve into "someone is going to prison". We should all be grateful and hopeful that the transfer of power in this country does not include jailing the losers. As much as I despise Trump, I sincerely hope he is not prosecuted for anything. Not to say any of them are above the law, but all of them that have achieved this level have cut corners. The ability to abdicate peacefully is maybe the most important pillar of our country.
This isn't about jailing Hillary because she lost. This is about jailing her because she broke the law, not just normally but in a treasonous manner

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