Impeachment or...CIA Coup?

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What Rack says is truth. Just because you forcefully oppose and reject the deep state coup attempt doesn't mean you are a Trump lackey or even like him in particular...you just hate to see and will go to the proverbial mat to thwart the subversion of the republic.
I agree with what he said too. I prefer to keep political arguments in the realm of reality though. Deep State and Coup to me are like the Boogey Man.

I get it that there may be some perceived abuse of power by the Dems but that goes right back at the GOP too with the DOJ being a direct Trump plant who has actively been involved in white washing.

Let's use the laws the best we can and for the love of all things holly try to find some better politicians. Looking at the Dem field sucks pretty hard. I've always wondered if forcing the two parties to break into 3 separate parties each that are then are required on every ballot would do anything? Probably not.
 

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Crazy Loony Tooners for the gangster in the White House!
You folks are either stupid or more stupid!
Fact! Trump is a whoremonger. fact Trump is a terrible businessman he went broke in the casino business. And every other business he’s dabbled in. Fact! Trump dodged draft in 65. Fact! Trump has cheated on all of his wives.
But if he’s your hero? Then good for you. It just shows your personal moral character. If you support this guy you’re just like him.
Fact! Even if all of what you say is true, he was, and still is, a better option than Hillary. Fact! He is certainly not my hero but he is my president, duly elected, and as of yet not guilty of any crime that warrants removal from office. Fact! Even though I don't like him, I will defend him against attempts by the authoritarian left to subvert the will of the people.
 
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You don’t need to be a supporter of President Trump to be concerned about the efforts to remove him from office. Last week House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced impeachment proceedings against the President over a phone call made to the President of Ukraine. According to the White House record of the call, the President asked his Ukrainian counterpart to look into whether there is any evidence of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and then mentioned that a lot of people were talking about how former US Vice President Joe Biden stopped the prosecution of his son who was under investigation for corruption in Ukraine.

Democrats, who spent more than two years convinced that “Russiagate” would enable them to remove Trump from office only to have their hopes dashed by the Mueller Report, now believe they have their smoking gun in this phone call.

It this about politics? Yes. But there may be more to it than that.

It may appear that the Democratic Party, furious over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, is the driving force behind this ongoing attempt to remove Donald Trump from office, but at every turn we see the fingerprints of the CIA and its allies in the US deep state.

In August 2016, a former acting director of the CIA, Mike Morell, wrote an extraordinary article in the New York Times accusing Donald Trump of being an “agent of the Russian Federation.” Morell was clearly using his intelligence career as a way of bolstering his claim that Trump was a Russian spy – after all, the CIA should know such a thing! But the claim was a lie.

Former CIA director John Brennan accused President Trump of “treason” and of “being in the pocket of Putin” for meeting with the Russian president in Helsinki and accepting his word that Russia did not meddle in the US election. To this day there has yet to be any evidence presented that the Russian government did interfere. Brennan openly called on “patriotic” Republicans to act against this “traitor.”

Brennan and his deep state counterparts James Comey at the FBI and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper launched an operation, using what we now know is the fake Steele dossier, to spy on the Trump presidential campaign and even attempt to entrap Trump campaign employees.

Notice a pattern here?

Now we hear that the latest trigger for impeachment is a CIA officer assigned to the White House who filed a “whistleblower” complaint against the president over something he heard from someone else that the president said in the Ukraine phone call.

Shockingly, according to multiple press reports the rules for CIA whistleblowing were recently changed, dropping the requirement that the whistleblower have direct, first-hand knowledge of the wrongdoing. Just before this complaint was filed, the rule-change allowed hearsay or second-hand information to be accepted. That seems strange.

As it turns out, the CIA “whistleblower” lurking around the White House got the important things wrong, as there was no quid pro quo discussed and there was no actual request to investigate Biden or his son.

The Democrats have suddenly come out in praise of whistleblowers – well not exactly. Pelosi still wants to prosecute actual whistleblower Ed Snowden. But she’s singing the praises of this fake CIA “whistleblower.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer once warned Trump that if “you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” It’s hard not to ask whether this is a genuine impeachment effort…or a CIA coup!
Copyright 2019 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/september/30/impeachment-or-cia-coup/
And if you place your tooth underneath your pillow at night, and have been real good, the tooth fairy will leave you a quarter.
Ron Paul and many of you need to read and comprehend the Mueller report. AG Bill Barr lied! Don’t believe every OPINION piece when you to can read FACTS. This choice is a major factor in our country’s division. You can have your own opinion but you can’t change or deny the facts.
You’re right, you can’t deny facts. Problem is, you presented no facts.


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You don’t need to be a supporter of President Trump to be concerned about the efforts to remove him from office. Last week House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced impeachment proceedings against the President over a phone call made to the President of Ukraine. According to the White House record of the call, the President asked his Ukrainian counterpart to look into whether there is any evidence of Ukrainian meddling in the 2016 election and then mentioned that a lot of people were talking about how former US Vice President Joe Biden stopped the prosecution of his son who was under investigation for corruption in Ukraine.

Democrats, who spent more than two years convinced that “Russiagate” would enable them to remove Trump from office only to have their hopes dashed by the Mueller Report, now believe they have their smoking gun in this phone call.

It this about politics? Yes. But there may be more to it than that.

It may appear that the Democratic Party, furious over Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss, is the driving force behind this ongoing attempt to remove Donald Trump from office, but at every turn we see the fingerprints of the CIA and its allies in the US deep state.

In August 2016, a former acting director of the CIA, Mike Morell, wrote an extraordinary article in the New York Times accusing Donald Trump of being an “agent of the Russian Federation.” Morell was clearly using his intelligence career as a way of bolstering his claim that Trump was a Russian spy – after all, the CIA should know such a thing! But the claim was a lie.

Former CIA director John Brennan accused President Trump of “treason” and of “being in the pocket of Putin” for meeting with the Russian president in Helsinki and accepting his word that Russia did not meddle in the US election. To this day there has yet to be any evidence presented that the Russian government did interfere. Brennan openly called on “patriotic” Republicans to act against this “traitor.”

Brennan and his deep state counterparts James Comey at the FBI and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper launched an operation, using what we now know is the fake Steele dossier, to spy on the Trump presidential campaign and even attempt to entrap Trump campaign employees.

Notice a pattern here?

Now we hear that the latest trigger for impeachment is a CIA officer assigned to the White House who filed a “whistleblower” complaint against the president over something he heard from someone else that the president said in the Ukraine phone call.

Shockingly, according to multiple press reports the rules for CIA whistleblowing were recently changed, dropping the requirement that the whistleblower have direct, first-hand knowledge of the wrongdoing. Just before this complaint was filed, the rule-change allowed hearsay or second-hand information to be accepted. That seems strange.

As it turns out, the CIA “whistleblower” lurking around the White House got the important things wrong, as there was no quid pro quo discussed and there was no actual request to investigate Biden or his son.

The Democrats have suddenly come out in praise of whistleblowers – well not exactly. Pelosi still wants to prosecute actual whistleblower Ed Snowden. But she’s singing the praises of this fake CIA “whistleblower.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer once warned Trump that if “you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.” It’s hard not to ask whether this is a genuine impeachment effort…or a CIA coup!
Copyright 2019 by RonPaul Institute. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit and a live link are given.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2019/september/30/impeachment-or-cia-coup/
And if you place your tooth underneath your pillow at night, and have been real good, the tooth fairy will leave you a quarter.
Ron Paul and many of you need to read and comprehend the Mueller report. AG Bill Barr lied! Don’t believe every OPINION piece when you to can read FACTS. This choice is a major factor in our country’s division. You can have your own opinion but you can’t change or deny the facts.
You’re right, you can’t deny facts. Problem is, you presented no facts.


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llcoolw

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You’re right, you can’t deny facts. Problem is, you presented no facts.


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Like I said MORE stupid. Lord have mercy! Have you trumpsters have no conscience?
This is all from the mouth of Ron Paul. As an American who has no dog in the fight, as an American who sat with mouth agape for the last 30, I find all of this unfathomable. The left just can’t believe the most investigated man in US history hasn’t done anything worthy of impeachment. How many times have the rules been changed in those 30 years, in order to get what “they” want and run around what you want? Bernie won the dnc just as Hillary before only to have a corporation step in and say no to Hillary in favor of Obama and Hillary instead of Bernie. And hard line followers fall over themselves to allow this in their own party. And the republicans, Jesus, you let a lifelong Democrat hijack your party. And support him regardless of how many anti republican stances he takes. Then throw all the alphabet folks at him. The greatest country in history with the greatest technology can’t catch him breaking the law on tape. Are you kidding me? Let’s say he does get busted for something. By the time a judge issued final statement, DJT will long be dead. As an American watching all of this, all I can do is just laugh. I’ve tried at every hope down the drain moment to point out the system did it to us. I’ve tried to influence it with cash. Volunteerism. I’ve tried shouting it in the streets and I’ve said it on a bungload of forums. I’ve tried joining each party and changing it from the inside. I’ve tried 3rd, 4th and 5th parties. Tried starting my own. So just know, I’m laughing, and trying my best to keep me and mine on a separate path that was laid out for us by some freakishly great ancestors 250 years ago. I will not disown my American compatriots for their words but their actions, I have no choice but to watch and learn.
 
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This is all from the mouth of Ron Paul. As an American who has no dog in the fight, as an American who sat with mouth agape for the last 30, I find all of this unfathomable. The left just can’t believe the most investigated man in US history hasn’t done anything worthy of impeachment. How many times have the rules been changed in those 30 years, in order to get what “they” want and run around what you want? Bernie won the dnc just as Hillary before only to have a corporation step in and say no to Hillary in favor of Obama and Hillary instead of Bernie. And hard line followers fall over themselves to allow this in their own party. And the republicans, Jesus, you let a lifelong Democrat hijack your party. And support him regardless of how many anti republican stances he takes. Then throw all the alphabet folks at him. The greatest country in history with the greatest technology can’t catch him breaking the law on tape. Are you kidding me? Let’s say he does get busted for something. By the time a judge issued final statement, DJT will long be dead. As an American watching all of this, all I can do is just laugh. I’ve tried at every hope down the drain moment to point out the system did it to us. I’ve tried to influence it with cash. Volunteerism. I’ve tried shouting it in the streets and I’ve said it on a bungload of forums. I’ve tried joining each party and changing it from the inside. I’ve tried 3rd, 4th and 5th parties. Tried starting my own. So just know, I’m laughing, and trying my best to keep me and mine on a separate path that was laid out for us by some freakishly great ancestors 250 years ago. I will not disown my American compatriots for their words but their actions, I have no choice but to watch and learn.
How about you try paragraphs?

My eyes hurt.
 

John C

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Crazy Loony Tooners for the former gangster in the White House!
You folks are either stupid or more stupid!
Fact! Clinton is a whoremonger. Fact! Clinton dodged draft. Fact! Clinton has cheated on his wife.
But if he’s your hero? Then good for you. It just shows your personal moral character. If you support this guy you’re just like him.
FIFY.
 
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Crazy Loony Tooners for the gangster in the White House!
You folks are either stupid or more stupid!
Fact! Trump is a whoremonger. fact Trump is a terrible businessman he went broke in the casino business. And every other business he’s dabbled in. Fact! Trump dodged draft in 65. Fact! Trump has cheated on all of his wives.
But if he’s your hero? Then good for you. It just shows your personal moral character. If you support this guy you’re just like him.
You seem to be talking about Trump but you are giving Clinton's resume.
 

llcoolw

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What Rack says is truth. Just because you forcefully oppose and reject the deep state coup attempt doesn't mean you are a Trump lackey or even like him in particular...you just hate to see and will go to the proverbial mat to thwart the subversion of the republic.
WINNER. That's the point. Every rule change has been weaponized. Even the IRS, FBI and CIA have been weaponized. When will we wake up? Just because your certain group gains favor from it, I can assure you, it's temporary.
 

RxCowboy

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People, all people, need to quit throwing around the word "treason" for political disagreements. It has a very specific definition in the Constitution and we are not at war. Even with Russia, Iran, and China, we have tense diplomatic relations, but we have do have diplomatic relations and are not at war with any of them.
 
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People, all people, need to quit throwing around the word "treason" for political disagreements. It has a very specific definition in the Constitution and we are not at war. Even with Russia, Iran, and China, we have tense diplomatic relations, but we have do have diplomatic relations and are not at war with any of them.
Yeah, maybe lecture the POTUS and his supporters about this and not the guy on a message board saying it sarcastically because it has been getting thrown around by the POTUS in a ridiculous manner.