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Should Trump be pardon?

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Lab Rat

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Raiding the President's lawyers office, home and hotel room... basically violating the client/atty privilege. Holy crap, this society is being ripped apart by the dark state and socialists that allowed it.
Aha!!! That's it!! Jeb "Low Energy" Bush is the source of the dark state! Using that information, I was able to reconstruct the entire dark state scheme:

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steross

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Deep state and dark state are both old news.

On the ball conspiracists have moved on to the deep, dark state. Much deeper, and darker, than before.
 

Okieleaks

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Excuse me ratman, I intended to say deep state.
He’s not ratman, he’s a damned good man and likely one of the 5-10 smartest people on this forum. More importantly he’s one of the only people (there are a few others I trust as well) on this forum you can confide in and not have to worry that he’s going to break confidence, if I need help I know he will help, you can think that about a lot of people but you don't know, I know. He’s got opinions just like any person with a spine does and he’s not afraid to share just because some simple minded dolts will get their feelings hurt. It’s never a personal attack like it is with so many others on this board (yours in this case but you are far from being the only one).
He doesn’t need nor ask for my defense but I’m providing it anyway.
 

Lab Rat

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Excuse me ratman, I intended to say deep state.
Oh my!!! Now I understand!!! Deep State Impurities are to blame!!!

Take note that the message below contains the letters Au, Cu, Mn, Cr, Fe. Obviously, when we rearrange those letters, we get "U FRAME NUNC." NUNC of course is the Latin word for NOW. This cryptic message is directed from the Deep State Impurities to Mueller to frame Michael Cohen.
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MindAflame

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He’s not ratman, he’s a damned good man and likely one of the 5-10 smartest people on this forum. More importantly he’s one of the only people (there are a few others I trust as well) on this forum you can confide in and not have to worry that he’s going to break confidence, if I need help I know he will help, you can think that about a lot of people but you don't know, I know. He’s got opinions just like any person with a spine does and he’s not afraid to share just because some simple minded dolts will get their feelings hurt. It’s never a personal attack like it is with so many others on this board (yours in this case but you are far from being the only one).
He doesn’t need nor ask for my defense but I’m providing it anyway.
Weird.
 

Okieleaks

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I do, he’s a damned good man and likely one of the 5-10 smartest people on this forum. More importantly he’s one of the only people (there are a few others I trust as well) on this forum you can confide in and not have to worry that he’s going to break confidence, if I need help I know he will help, you can think that about a lot of people but you don't know, I know. He’s got opinions just like any person with a spine does and he’s not afraid to share just because some simple minded dolts will get their feelings hurt. It’s never a personal attack like it is with so many others on this board (yours in this case but you are far from being the only one). He doesn’t need nor ask for my defense but I’m providing it anyway.
 
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Cowboy2U

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Oh my!!! Now I understand!!! Deep State Impurities are to blame!!!

Take note that the message below contains the letters Au, Cu, Mn, Cr, Fe. Obviously, when we rearrange those letters, we get "U FRAME NUNC." NUNC of course is the Latin word for NOW. This cryptic message is directed from the Deep State Impurities to Mueller to frame Michael Cohen.
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They are to blame, Mueller is scum as are Rosenstein and Wray. You gotta be an idiot not to see these scumbags for what they are but by all means...heil deep state.
 

Cowboy2U

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He’s not ratman, he’s a damned good man and likely one of the 5-10 smartest people on this forum. More importantly he’s one of the only people (there are a few others I trust as well) on this forum you can confide in and not have to worry that he’s going to break confidence, if I need help I know he will help, you can think that about a lot of people but you don't know, I know. He’s got opinions just like any person with a spine does and he’s not afraid to share just because some simple minded dolts will get their feelings hurt. It’s never a personal attack like it is with so many others on this board (yours in this case but you are far from being the only one).
He doesn’t need nor ask for my defense but I’m providing it anyway.
You know...ok, now I really feel stupid. Ratman is a trust factor... simple minded dolts...apparently you are in the same arena as the Clintons, Obamas and Hitler...no mirrors in your world.Thanks for providing your defense, it means so much.
 

Cowboy2U

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Deep state and dark state are both old news.

On the ball conspiracists have moved on to the deep, dark state. Much deeper, and darker, than before.
Deep state and dark state are exactly the same, both are framed to dump our Constitutional rights in favor of a few Socialist/Communist/Nazi scum trying to dominate a free Democratic society.
 

Cimarron

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I would feel 9000% more comfortable with Pence running the show right now
I'm curious exactly what it is you disagree with Trump on as President?

Yes we know about his approach to things, twitter, etc. But let's look at the picture that really matters....

Is it how he handled North Korea?
Is it how he handled China?
Is it because multiple countries are now going to review unfair trade practices?
Is it because ISIS is basically gone? When was the last time you heard anything about ISIS?
Is it because the economy is doing well?
Is it because more people are employed?
Is it because business is expanding in this country?
Is it because he's rolled back rules and regulations?
Is it because minorities are experencing record levels of employment?

I'm just curious why it is that you would rather have Pence than Trump? Perhaps it's because you believe Pence would be less upsetting to the establishment and deep state and things could go back to they way they were?




By the way has everyone forgotten how the Clintons demonized Kenn Starr and the liberals do to this very day? It was wicked mean attacks on that man. Trump has been much kinder to Muellar than the Clintons were to Kenn Starr.
 

Binman4OSU

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I'm curious exactly what it is you disagree with Trump on as President?

Yes we know about his approach to things, twitter, etc. But let's look at the picture that really matters....

Is it how he handled North Korea?
Is it how he handled China?
Is it because multiple countries are now going to review unfair trade practices?
Is it because ISIS is basically gone? When was the last time you heard anything about ISIS?
Is it because the economy is doing well?
Is it because more people are employed?
Is it because business is expanding in this country?
Is it because he's rolled back rules and regulations?
Is it because minorities are experencing record levels of employment?

I'm just curious why it is that you would rather have Pence than Trump? Perhaps it's because you believe Pence would be less upsetting to the establishment and deep state and things could go back to they way they were?




By the way has everyone forgotten how the Clintons demonized Kenn Starr and the liberals do to this very day? It was wicked mean attacks on that man. Trump has been much kinder to Muellar than the Clintons were to Kenn Starr.
The fact that he signed the Omnibus spending bill at spending levels even higher than Obama wanted. Even with GOP control of the WH, Senate, and House

His inability to keep his mouth shut and get out of the US economy's way and let it grow

His willingness as POTUS to go directly after and attack private US business on a regular basis

The fact he knows that his tariffs and possible trade war will hurt US farmers, but actually said US farmers will understand

His inability to put the right people in the right positions in his Admin that have been truly vetted correctly and huge turn over rate in his Admin that leads to inability to craft direction or gain traction to actually accomplish anything...his admin has had wife beaters and convicted pedophiles serving in WH positions

His complete lack of accepting any leadership role in Repealing Obamacare...which is still with us.

Utilizing the US Military to try to enforce immigration laws or as Construction workers.

His complete lack of knowledge of enforcing his own words...Like labeling Qatar a state sponsor of terror 8-10 months ago and then inviting the leader of Qatar to the WH this week

The fact that back in the Day he told Playboy in an interview that he said he never felt the need to ask for God's forgiveness (which tells me a lot about this man and his complete disregard for faith)

His complete embrace of impulse and reactionary actions instead of strategic and planned actions. His leadership style creates chaos even in the smallest of events in which none is needed.

And a HUGE thing for me is his inability to craft a strong and detailed message which sends a clear and consistent message....like yesterday tweeting that Missiles were coming, and today tweeting they may never go. How does the US take a leadership position in the world when the US leader sends two very different messages to the world less than 24 hrs from each other.....boy that cried wolf.