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Won 10 of last 12.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
40 for 163 (0.245) against P5 teams with a winning record at the end of the season
3 for 21 (0.143) against final Top 10 teams
15 for 50 (0.300) against Final Top 25 teams
2 for 14 (0.125) against our "rivals"
1 conference championship in 16 years
Gundy can "coach" us to a bunch of victories against Girl Scout Troop 137, Savannah State, and wet toilet paper. And apparently that gets a lot of our fans excited :-(
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Won 10 of last 12.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
40 for 163 (0.245) against P5 teams with a winning record at the end of the season
3 for 21 (0.143) against final Top 10 teams
15 for 50 (0.300) against Final Top 25 teams
2 for 14 (0.125) against our "rivals"
1 conference championship in 16 years
Gundy can "coach" us to a bunch of victories against Girl Scout Troop 137, Savannah State, and wet toilet paper.
Gundy is 135-66. How could he possibly have lost 123 games against P5 opponents?
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You said he was 40 for 163 v P5 opponents.
He has not lost 68 games against P5 opponents, per your revised numbers.
His career record is 135-66. And there are a few losses against non-P5 opponents.
Math must be a challenge for you. So dont post any more of your numbers. Provide links.
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He has not lost 68 games against P5 opponents, per your revised numbers.
His career record is 135-66. And there are a few losses against non-P5 opponents.
Math must be a challenge for you. So dont post any more of your numbers. Provide links.
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Found some bugs in my spreadsheet. Final #'s are below.
All games = 136 for 202 (0.673)
Versus Winning Record (All teams) = 59 for 120 (0.492)
Versus P5 Teams (All) = 100 for 163 (0.613)
Versus P5 Teams with Winning Record = 41 for 99 (0.414)
Versus Final Top 25 = 16 for 50 (0.320)
Versus Final Top 10 = 3 for 21 (0.143)
Versus our "rival" = 2 for 16 (0.125)
All games = 136 for 202 (0.673)
Versus Winning Record (All teams) = 59 for 120 (0.492)
Versus P5 Teams (All) = 100 for 163 (0.613)
Versus P5 Teams with Winning Record = 41 for 99 (0.414)
Versus Final Top 25 = 16 for 50 (0.320)
Versus Final Top 10 = 3 for 21 (0.143)
Versus our "rival" = 2 for 16 (0.125)
I disagree. Many teams are ranked WAY too high to start the season (Texas), and we may beat them early in the season, even though they finish with a horrible overall record. Maybe if there was a way to do a true stat analysis with a deviation from initial to final rankings or something, then it may be more accurate. I'm not good enough with actual stats to know how to do that.
I think final rankings are actually the best measure of how "good" a team actually is after all games have been played. It's certainly not a strawman IMO.
You honestly think that Texas beat the 6th best team in the country when they beat us this season, and should get credit for a Top 10 win?
I think final rankings are actually the best measure of how "good" a team actually is after all games have been played. It's certainly not a strawman IMO.
You honestly think that Texas beat the 6th best team in the country when they beat us this season, and should get credit for a Top 10 win?
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Oklahoma State has been very good against the spread under Coach Gundy. They're ranked 3rd in the country over the past decade against the spread. I know that lines are set in an attempt to get equal money on both sides, but this shows that we've been underrated for a long time.
However, since 2017 we've lost 11 games we were favored to win and only won 4 games that we were favored to lose. So it seems that things are starting to head in the wrong direction.
However, since 2017 we've lost 11 games we were favored to win and only won 4 games that we were favored to lose. So it seems that things are starting to head in the wrong direction.
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Won 10 of last 12.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
40 for 163 (0.245) against P5 teams with a winning record at the end of the season
3 for 21 (0.143) against final Top 10 teams
15 for 50 (0.300) against Final Top 25 teams
2 for 14 (0.125) against our "rivals"
1 conference championship in 16 years
Gundy can "coach" us to a bunch of victories against Girl Scout Troop 137, Savannah State, and wet toilet paper.
Gundy is 135-66. How could he possibly have lost 123 games against P5 opponents?
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Won 10 of last 12.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
But, Gundy still can't coach.
40 for 163 (0.245) against P5 teams with a winning record at the end of the season
3 for 21 (0.143) against final Top 10 teams
15 for 50 (0.300) against Final Top 25 teams
2 for 14 (0.125) against our "rivals"
1 conference championship in 16 years
Gundy can "coach" us to a bunch of victories against Girl Scout Troop 137, Savannah State, and wet toilet paper.
Gundy is 135-66. How could he possibly have lost 123 games against P5 opponents?
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Your P5 calc indicates a worse record than mine, but it's not off by much. Not sure where your #'s came from, either.
I think the most telling stats are how we fare against the best teams, and it's not good.
16-34 against Final Top 25
41-58 against Winning P5 teams
3-18 against Final Top 10
2-16 against our "rival"
1 conference championship in 16 years
Gundy beats up on weaklings, and it's about to be a decade since his only conference championship. We can do better than this.
I think the most telling stats are how we fare against the best teams, and it's not good.
16-34 against Final Top 25
41-58 against Winning P5 teams
3-18 against Final Top 10
2-16 against our "rival"
1 conference championship in 16 years
Gundy beats up on weaklings, and it's about to be a decade since his only conference championship. We can do better than this.
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They absolutely deserve to be credited with a top 10 win. We were ranked 6 whether we deserve it or not. If a team beats a top 10 team in a bowl game, do they not "deserve credit" for a top 10 win, when that team drops?
Final rankings are NOT the best indicator if how good a team is. Many things happen over the course of a season that change the dynamic of a team. A late season injury to a key contributor gives no indication of how "good" a team was when the game was played.
When talking about accomplishments and doing analytics, experts never talk about " victories against final rankings" but they always indicate top 25 victories.
Final rankings are NOT the best indicator if how good a team is. Many things happen over the course of a season that change the dynamic of a team. A late season injury to a key contributor gives no indication of how "good" a team was when the game was played.
When talking about accomplishments and doing analytics, experts never talk about " victories against final rankings" but they always indicate top 25 victories.
Current rankings aren't the foolproof method you're making them to be. We will be lucky to finish in the top 25 this season, which I think is fair considering how we've played. Texas can brag about a "top 10" win all they want, but that doesn't mean they beat the 6th best team in the country that day. Not even close.
Personally, I don't even think rankings should be published or counted until conference championships have been played. The intermediate rankings are meaningless IMO, and only used for TV ratings.
Personally, I don't even think rankings should be published or counted until conference championships have been played. The intermediate rankings are meaningless IMO, and only used for TV ratings.