House expected to Impeach Trump ??..announcement at 3pm CST

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CocoCincinnati

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So we both sold them weapons in return for a favor and at the same time we withheld selling them weapons in return for a favor. That's damned impressive negotiating skills by president Trump.
 
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If you’re quoting government numbers from say BLS and not looking at numbers accumulated by private firms with sound data definitions then you have no clue what the real trends show. Companies got around a lot of overhead by taking 3 FT jobs with benefits and converting them to 4 less than FT or contract jobs without benefits. But the government would look at hours worked and call that a +1 in FT jobs. It’s a scam like everything else.
So does that scam hold regardless of who is in office?
 
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I still don't understand what people hope to find in his taxes.
I know it’s a bit disjointed but I wanted to respond and say I was using the term taxes and should have been more clear. They are asking for his taxes and basically everything financial from his Accountants Mazars and from allegedly the only bank that would lend him $ Deutsche Bank. So it’s not just his taxes.

There is a 3rd case from the Manhattan DA asking for same from Mazars. That case has been kicked to Federal system as well. From my understanding of the Manhattan DA case is that if the DA wins and gets the records they cannot hand over the info to Congress unless an indictment happens which we all know DoJ guidelines say can’t happen.
 
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I still don't understand what people hope to find in his taxes.
I know it’s a bit disjointed but I wanted to respond and say I was using the term taxes and should have been more clear. They are asking for his taxes and basically everything financial from his Accountants Mazars and from allegedly the only bank that would lend him $ Deutsche Bank. So it’s not just his taxes.

There is a 3rd case from the Manhattan DA asking for same from Mazars. That case has been kicked to Federal system as well. From my understanding of the Manhattan DA case is that if the DA wins and gets the records they cannot hand over the info to Congress unless an indictment happens which we all know DoJ guidelines say can’t happen.
I assure you with over 500 real estate partnerships, his limited partnerships have outstanding borrowings from more than one bank - Deutsche Bank.


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Giuliani's clients who Giuliani named himself as working with him on Ukraine who were arrested today on FEC violations. Here is the report

1. Through its election laws, Congress prohibits
foreign nationals from making contributions, donations, and
certain expenditures in connection with federal, State, and local
elections, and prohibits anyone from making contributions in the
name of another; Congress further requires public reporting
through the Federal Election Commission (the of the sources
and amounts of contributions and expenditures made in connection
with federal elections. A purpose of these laws, taken together,
is to protect the United States electoral system from illegal
foreign financial influence, and to further inform.all candidates,
their campaign committees, federal regulators, and the public of

the true sources of contributions to candidates for federal
office; and {ii} any effort by foreign nationals to influence
federal, State, or local electiOns with foreign money.

2. LEV PARNAS, IGOR FRUMAN, DAVID CDRREIA, and ANDREY
KUKUSHKIN, the defendants, conspired to c?rcumvent the federal
laws against foreign influence by engaging in a scheme to funnel
foreign money to candidates for federal and State office so that
the defendants could. buy' potential influence ?with candidates,
campaigns, and the candidates' governments. The defendants
concealed. the scheme from the candidates, campaigns, federal
regulators, and the public by entering into secret agreements,
laundering foreign money through bank accounts in the names of
limited_liability corporations, and.through the use of straw donors
(also known as ?conduits" or ?straw contributors?) who purported
to make legal campaign contributions in their own names, rather
than in the name of the true source of the funds.

3. PARNAS and IGOR FRUMHN, the defendants, made
additional contributions to federal candidates, joint fundraising
committees, and independent expenditure committees that either
were intentionally funneled through, and made in the name of, a
limited liability corporation to conceal that PARNAS and FRUMAN
were the true source of contributions and skirt the federal
reporting requirements: or (ii) were reported in name but

were funded by FRUMAN, which allowed FRUMAN to exceed limits on
contributions to candidates or committees to whom he had previously
contributed. The defendants further concealed this aspect of the
conspiracy by, among other things, making and causing others to
make false statements to the FEC.
 

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B. LEV PARNAS, the defendant, is 21 businessman and
United States citizen who was born in Ukraine.

9. IGOR FRUMAN, the defendant, is a businessman and
United States citizen who was born in Belarus.

10. DAVID CORREIA, the defendant, is a businessman and
United States citizen who was born in the United States.

ll. ANDREY KUKUSHKIN, the defendant, is a businessman
and United States citizen who was born in Ukraine.

12. Foreign National?l is a foreign national Russian
citizen and businessman who, at all relevant times, was not a
citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States.

THE STRAW DONOR SCHEME



13. Beginning in or about March 2018, LEV PARNAS and
IGOR FRUMAN, the defendants, began attending political fundraising
events in connection with federal elections and making substantial
contributions to candidates, joint fundraising committees, and
independent expenditure committees with the purpose of enhancing
their influence in political circles and gaining access to
politicians. BARNES and EEUMAN, who had no significant prior
history of political donations, sought to advance their personal
financial interests and the political interests of at least one

Ukrainian government official with whom they were working. In
order to conceal from third parties, including creditors, their
sources of funding and capital, PARNAS and FRUMAN created a limited
liability corporation, Global Energy Producers and then
intentionally caused certain large contributions to be reported.in
the name of GEP instead of in their own names.

14. Specifically, in or about May 2018, to obtain
access to exclusive political events and gain. influence with
politicians, LEV PARNAS and IGOR FRUMAN, the defendants, made a
$325,000 contribution. to an independent expenditure committee
(?Committee?1?) and a $15,000 contribution to a second independent
expenditure committee Despite the fact that the
FEC forms for these contributions required PARNAS and FRUMAN to
disclose the true donor of the funds, they falsely reported that
the contributions came from.GEP, a purported liquefied natural gas
import?export business that was incorporated by FRUMAN and
PARNAS around the time the contributions were made.

15. In truth and in fact, the donations to Committee?1
and Committee?2 did not come from funds. Rather, the funds
came from a private lending transaction between FRUMAN and third
parties, and never passed through a GEE account. Indeed, PARNAS
and. FRUMAN incorporated GEE at and around the time of the
contributions to and Committee?2, and deliberately

made the contributions in name, in order to evade the
reporting requirements under the Election Act and to conceal that
they were the true source of the contributions. At that time, GEP
had not engaged. in. the business, and. had. no income or
significant assets.

16. PARNAS and IGOR FRUMAN, the defendants,
intentionally reported that the contributions came from GEE to
hide from creditors the fact that they had access to funding, and
to conceal from the public and the FEC their involvement in making
these contributions. Indeed, when media reports about the
contributions first surfaced, an individual working with PARNAS
remarked, ?[t]his is what happens when you become visible the
buzzards descend,? to which PARNAS responded, ?[tJhat?s why we
need to stay under the

17. In addition to the contributions made and falsely
reported iJ1 the name GEP, LEV PARNAS and IGOR ERUMAN, the
defendants, caused illegal contributions to be made in
name that, in fact, were f?nded by ERUMAN, in order to evade
federal contribution. limits. Much. as with. the contributions
described above, these contributions were made for the purpose of
gaining influence with politicians an) as to advance their own
personal financial interests and the political interests of
Ukrainian government officials, including at least one Ukrainian

government official with whom.they were working. For example, in
or about May and June 2018, PARNAS and FRUMAN committed to raise
$20,000 or more for a then-sitting 0.3. Congressman (?Congressman-
who had also been the beneficiary of approximately $3 million
in independent expenditures by Committee?1 during the 2018
election cycle. PARNAS and FRUMAN had met Congressmanel at an
event sponsored by an independent expenditure committee to which
FRUMAN had recently made a substantial contribution.1 During the
2018 election cycle, Congressman?1 had been the beneficiary of
approximately $3 million in independent expenditures by Committee?
1. At and around the same time PARNAS and FRUMAN committed to
raising those funds for Congressman?1, BARNES met with
Congressman~l and sought Congressmanel?s assistance in causing the
0.3. Government to remove or recall the then~U.S. Ambassador to
Ukraine (the ?Ambassador?). PARNAS's efforts to remove the
Ambassador were conducted, at least in part, at the request of one
or more Ukrainian government officials. Moreover, in an effort
to reach their contribution commitment to Congressman?l and
further their political goals, in or about June 2018, after FRUMAN

had already made a maximum $2,700 contribution to Congressman-l,
 

CocoCincinnati

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But you are ok w Trump spending tax payer $ to send Barr & Pompeo all over the world to disprove the fact that Pompeo’s CIA, the Special Counsel, and the R led Senate Intelligence Committee concluded Russia was involved in the 2016 election?
WOLF!!!! WOLF!!!!

As a general rule, I don't approve of anything that goes on in DC but I'm sick of the circus. If the Dems have reason to impeach then please for the love of God do it and stop talking about.
 

CocoCincinnati

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Anyone with a tax return as big and as. complex as Trumps can be reviewed by top accounting firms who will disagree each other. The whole purpose of the Democrats is to suggest that Trump cheated on. his return.
Yeah but the IRS signed off on these returns. If he cheated on those returns, then the IRS needs to be investigated.
 
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Anyone with a tax return as big and as. complex as Trumps can be reviewed by top accounting firms who will disagree each other. The whole purpose of the Democrats is to suggest that Trump cheated on. his return.
Or to see if he was getting loans from countries with a conflict of interest? Or to see if he wrote off illegal campaign expenses(Stormy)? Or to see how much he is profiting off of funneling friendly politicians to his own businesses? Or investigate his charity(recently folded) funneling money to his businesses?
 
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Yeah but the IRS signed off on these returns. If he cheated on those returns, then the IRS needs to be investigated.
I don't think it is the job of the IRS to find conflicts of interest or campaign finance violations or emolument violations. Once you know a crime like that has been committed (Cohen in prison) though you can go look at the paper trail and put things together. Which I believe is what is trying to be done. The stonewalling leads some to think there may be something there.
 

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Per NBC News...the unnamed Congressman -1 in the Arrest report for the two business associates of Rudy G who were arrested this morning is former House Rep Pete Sessions from Texas

according to the report and charges. Congressman -1 (Sessions) was involved in an effort to oust the US Ambassador to the Ukraine while he served in the House as the House Rules Committee chairman

Per the indictment the two arrested had committed to raise $20,000 for Congressman 1 while he was in office. Federal Authorities in the indictment say in exchange Congressman 1 would provide assistance in causing the US Govt to remove or recall Marie Yavanovitch the US Ambassador to the Ukraine at the time

Sessions had told WSJ in the past he had made efforts to remove the US Ambassador to the Ukraine...at the time he said it was because the Trump admin wasn't moving fast enough to put new ambassadors in place.

The indictment also states that Sessions was also the beneficiary of $3 million in donations from the official Trump Super PAC during his re-election bid which he lost....during which Rudy G headlined a fundraiser on his behalf

Sessions is now running for Congress in a different district than he last in his last election 90 miles South of Dallas and his spokespeople decline to make any comments on today's developments.

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/1...tes-indictment/amp/?__twitter_impression=true