He fought in World War II. He died in 2014. And he just registered to vote in Va.

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#WhatVoterFraud? From WashPo:

He fought in World War II. He died in 2014. And he just registered to vote in Va.

By Laura Vozzella
September 29, 2016

RICHMOND — The FBI and local police are investigating how at least 19 dead Virginians were recently re-registered to vote in this critical swing state.

One case came to light after relatives of a deceased man received a note congratulating him for registering, Rockingham County Commonwealth’s Attorney Marsha Garst said Thursday.

“His family members were very distraught,” said Garst, who confirmed the existence of the FBI and police investigation but said she could provide few details because the case is ongoing.

All 19 were initially registered as voters in the Shenandoah Valley city of Harrisonburg, although a clerk double-checking the entries later raised questions about one. She recognized the name of Richard Allen Claybrook Sr., who died in 2014 at age 87, because his son is a well-known local judge. She happened to recall that the judge’s father had died.

“He was a retired Fairfax County elementary school principal and had fought in World War II,” said his son, retired Harrisonburg General District Court Judge Richard Allen Claybrook Jr. “So our family is very disgusted that they would pick his name, because he was such a law-abiding citizen devoted to public service.”

All of the forms had been submitted by a private group that was working to register voters on the campus of James Madison University, according to the Harrisonburg registrar’s office. The group was not identified. No charges have been filed.

Republicans in the state House of Delegates, who in recent years have supported tighter voter ID laws, held a conference call with reporters to call attention to the investigation.

“Oftentimes we hear our Democratic colleagues suggest that voter fraud doesn’t exist in Virginia, or it’s a myth,” House Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford) said. “This is proof that voter fraud not only exists but is ongoing and is a threat to the integrity of our elections.”

House Minority Leader David J. Toscano (D-Charlottesville) said the case was not proof of voter fraud because no one had actually managed to cast a vote in the names of the dead.

“First of all, there was no voter fraud — they caught him,” Toscano said. “Nobody cast a vote. .?.?. There’s still no evidence of that going on in the state. But there is evidence every time you turn around that the Republicans are trying to make it more difficult for citizens to vote in elections.”

Laura Vozzella covers Virginia politics for The Washington Post. Before joining The Post, she was a political columnist and food writer at the Baltimore Sun, and she has also worked for the Associated Press, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and the Hartford Courant.
 

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They registered as R's right!!???!!?!!
not likely, if you look at the quotes from the article.... the Republican is upset, and the Democrat is making excuses...

House Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford) said. “This is proof that voter fraud not only exists but is ongoing and is a threat to the integrity of our elections.”

House Minority Leader David J. Toscano (D-Charlottesville) said the case was not proof of voter fraud because no one had actually managed to cast a vote in the names of the dead.
 
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not likely, if you look at the quotes from the article.... the Republican is upset, and the Democrat is making excuses...

House Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford) said. “This is proof that voter fraud not only exists but is ongoing and is a threat to the integrity of our elections.”

House Minority Leader David J. Toscano (D-Charlottesville) said the case was not proof of voter fraud because no one had actually managed to cast a vote in the names of the dead.
You would think that even registering a dead person would be considered fraud without casting a vote.
 

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How many documented cases of voter fraud, where an actual voter in multiple elections happen in 2016?

I'll gladly venmo $5 to the first person with a correct answer.
There are some in every election. The problem is not the documented ones, because we prosecute those. The problem is the undocumented ones. Pretending they don't exist doesn't mean they don't exist. It's like atoms, because we can't see them doesn't mean we aren't made of them.
 

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There are some in every election. The problem is not the documented ones, because we prosecute those. The problem is the undocumented ones. Pretending they don't exist doesn't mean they don't exist. It's like atoms, because we can't see them doesn't mean we aren't made of them.
using that logic of absence of proof/evidence-based findings.

What was your opinion of Dr. Ford's testimony about Kavanaugh's character? :)
 

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There are some in every election. The problem is not the documented ones, because we prosecute those. The problem is the undocumented ones. Pretending they don't exist doesn't mean they don't exist. It's like atoms, because we can't see them doesn't mean we aren't made of them.
Problem is, study after study shows impersonation fraud is extremely rare.

https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

Even organizations that believe voter fraud is rampant and believe changes need to be made have a database with only 1145 instances over the last 17 years.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

That's 67 cases of voter fraud a year. And this database includes stuff that isn't impersonation fraud which means the numbers are even lower.
 

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Problem is, study after study shows impersonation fraud is extremely rare.

https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/debunking-voter-fraud-myth

Even organizations that believe voter fraud is rampant and believe changes need to be made have a database with only 1145 instances over the last 17 years.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

That's 67 cases of voter fraud a year. And this database includes stuff that isn't impersonation fraud which means the numbers are even lower.
Most of the iceberg is under water, bro...
 

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How many documented cases of voter fraud, where an actual voter in multiple elections happen in 2016?

I'll gladly venmo $5 to the first person with a correct answer.
Brilliant! $5 to anybody that can prove the impossible to prove.

How many do they know about... how about that, I can probably come up with that number, and it's not zero
 

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using that logic of absence of proof/evidence-based findings.

What was your opinion of Dr. Ford's testimony about Kavanaugh's character? :)
actually, it is documented to be happening... it is a fact... how bad is it we cannot know, BECAUSE THEY WON'T PREVENT IT.

Talk about faulty logic

and... Dr. Ford has been proven to be a liar, and perjured herself in the hearings. So, why should I care what her opinion of Judge Kavanaugh might be?