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What will be the results of todays vote?

  • Trump wins big

    Votes: 11 15.1%
  • Trump wins small

    Votes: 12 16.4%
  • No decision by tomorrow morning

    Votes: 27 37.0%
  • Biden wins small

    Votes: 16 21.9%
  • Biden wins big

    Votes: 7 9.6%

  • Total voters
    73

Binman4OSU

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WH saying vaccines will be widely available by the end of the year. CDC director testifying today saying that it will be mid 2021 before most Americans will have access to vaccine.

Who is telling the truth ?

https://twitter.com/kfor/status/1306311474562899979
 

UrbanCowboy1

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he is saying that because he also said

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1306304535309279232
Do these guys know something I don't? I've seen so many articles on vaccine distribution the past couple of weeks with dates for distribution... but there have been zero approved vaccines and the latest from Pfizer shows some mild-moderate side-effects. Everyone is acting like this is a guarantee and we have to stick to the dates set months ago. Are we at a point we can say that? Or have we just decided that no matter the efficacy, we're releasing vaccines into the general public in three weeks?
 

Binman4OSU

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Or have we just decided that no matter the efficacy, we're releasing vaccines into the general public in three weeks?
Trump needs to claim he had the vaccine up and running before the election. He has been pushing that angle for a few weeks. In reality it isn't feasible at this time. Trump is playing politics with the vaccine. Everyone who ISN'T up for election is saying early next year when a reliable vaccine will be ready and mass immunizations mid 2021.

There is about 0 chance of going from an approval out of 100's of candidates...mass production of said approved vaccine, distribution of vaccine and mass public vaccinations in the next 3 weeks. Now, that doesn't mean that Trump won't push something through and people will be taking shots, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the person taking what ever will be in that vial.
 

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WH saying vaccines will be widely available by the end of the year. CDC director testifying today saying that it will be mid 2021 before most Americans will have access to vaccine.

Who is telling the truth ?

https://twitter.com/kfor/status/1306311474562899979
Both can be true. The vaccine will be widely available within the next month or so to the most vulnerable, while the rest of us will get it throughout next year.
 
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Trump pushed the Big 10 to play a few weeks back, and nothing happened until now. He didn't continue pushing, nor did he even take credit for getting them to play which is very un-Trump like. If he had anything to do with it, we would not hear the end of him trying to take credit for it.

But hey, don't let me ruin your narrative, no matter how far from the truth it is.
Have you seen their CoVid requirements? Any one testing positive has to quarantine for 21days. In order to play a team has to be below 5% positivity. That’s what 5-7 players. Unless they took the LSU approach to have every player lick an infected doorknob I don’t see how this happens for the next 12 weeks for them.
 
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Do these guys know something I don't? I've seen so many articles on vaccine distribution the past couple of weeks with dates for distribution... but there have been zero approved vaccines and the latest from Pfizer shows some mild-moderate side-effects. Everyone is acting like this is a guarantee and we have to stick to the dates set months ago. Are we at a point we can say that? Or have we just decided that no matter the efficacy, we're releasing vaccines into the general public in three weeks?
Meanwhile Trump Doral is set to host an antivaxer conference in October.
 

UrbanCowboy1

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Is this a serious ?. I get the China part but is there so much TGS going on that we think we should work w Russia? Let’s start w religious persecution. Then move on to the fact there are no freedoms in country. No free press. The govt oppresses it’s own people and even murders it’s own citizens especially opposition. Then let’s look at them internationally and their active involvement in taking down democracies not to mention their support of murderous regimes. Iran✅Syria✅NoKo✅
If Trump wins who thinks NATO survives. Then what happens to the rest of Ukraine not to mention Eastern Europe.

This is what I mean when I criticize your pro life stance. It has to be every life. Not just babies in the womb. But sure let’s work w a guy who kills his own people and persecutes our fellow brothers and sisters.
None of those are good enough reasons to not ease up on them. We partner with countries that do all of those things to an even worse degree than Russia. Alliances are based on one thing, and that's common mutual interest.

China is the biggest threat to the planet since the Soviet Union and we need all the help we can get when it comes to isolating them. Nixon split them back in the 70's, maybe it's time to try it the other way. I don't want to fight a war... we just need to contain, isolate, repeat. It becomes infinitely more doable working with the Russians that it will be working against them.
 
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He’s not wrong it’s just his way of saying they can “explode,” when he should just say they are highly combustible. He might not have that one in his vocabulary. He’s from Queen’s NY after all...give him a break.

He’s also not an environmentalist. But if we reduce the fuel then we reduce the fire. This is just truth. Over the past 150 years we haven’t managed the forest properly. We didn’t let smaller natural fires burn so that forest would be different ages. When forest are different ages they are more resistant to bugs. Bugs have killed a huge percentage of forest that sit dead. When they sit dead and finally fall no one is cleaning that up they should be harvested while standing. When they fall they are already very dry. Have you been to wolf creek pass over the past decade? The high altitude spruce and fir forest was old and mature, we didn’t get the very very cold winters (warming is real) and the bugs Flourished. Without the trees being different ages due to over fire management...we had a mass die off from the bugs eating old unfit trees. This is a combination effect...much like our politics the truth is ideally in-between the two extremes.
Anyone that understands forest fires will tell you Trump is dead on with this one.
 

UrbanCowboy1

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Trump needs to claim he had the vaccine up and running before the election. He has been pushing that angle for a few weeks. In reality it isn't feasible at this time. Trump is playing politics with the vaccine. Everyone who ISN'T up for election is saying early next year when a reliable vaccine will be ready and mass immunizations mid 2021.

There is about 0 chance of going from an approval out of 100's of candidates...mass production of said approved vaccine, distribution of vaccine and mass public vaccinations in the next 3 weeks. Now, that doesn't mean that Trump won't push something through and people will be taking shots, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the person taking what ever will be in that vial.
This isn't just Trump saying this. It's the CDC and the private institutions themselves. The only difference is when the distribution will happen, not the vaccine itself. They all seem to tacitly agree that it will be approved in weeks.
 
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You mean the same CDC whose head just testified to the Senate and said things that are contradictory to what they have on their own website? that guy?

Follow Alex. He has been dead right on a lot of this stuff for MONTHS.
That dude is a great follow to get a non-hysterical look at Covid. As time goes on his views get proven more and more correct.
 
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Well Oklahoma made National News

https://twitter.com/KTULNews/status/1306317590122373121
Love how the article finally admits that there is not a known number of cases linked to the rally. But the article omits a HUGE data point. The spike in cases began the three weeks before the Trump rally, not after the Trump rally.
 

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Is this a serious ?. I get the China part but is there so much TGS going on that we think we should work w Russia? Let’s start w religious persecution. Then move on to the fact there are no freedoms in country. No free press. The govt oppresses it’s own people and even murders it’s own citizens especially opposition. Then let’s look at them internationally and their active involvement in taking down democracies not to mention their support of murderous regimes. Iran✅Syria✅NoKo✅
If Trump wins who thinks NATO survives. Then what happens to the rest of Ukraine not to mention Eastern Europe.

This is what I mean when I criticize your pro life stance. It has to be every life. Not just babies in the womb. But sure let’s work w a guy who kills his own people and persecutes our fellow brothers and sisters.
HacklemanPoke - it was a simple question to which you gave a scalding answer. Yep, I'm serious that once Putin is gone Russia has potential because they are now a semi capitalist nation...certainly I don't disagree with you pointing out the bad things they have done over the past decade but they aren't the Soviet Union no matter how much Putin wants that to return completely. Once again, we don't disagree overall, it was just a question.

Btw, Trump wanting to make peace with Russia isn't bad...it's just unrealistic until Putin is gone....and NO I don't think they are buddies since Trump has done this...
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-actions-against-russia-sanctions-2018-3