VOTE! Election thread

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What will be the results of todays vote?

  • Trump wins big

    Votes: 11 15.1%
  • Trump wins small

    Votes: 12 16.4%
  • No decision by tomorrow morning

    Votes: 27 37.0%
  • Biden wins small

    Votes: 16 21.9%
  • Biden wins big

    Votes: 7 9.6%

  • Total voters
    73

Rack

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well evidently "we" are not alone in thinking someone is to blame for how poorly it was handled...
It wasn't handled poorly...estimates where 2.2 to 2.5 million American Deaths...any is to many...but the fact is that he haven't handled Covid poorly...we have handled it differently all over the country based on the needs of that community. We have tested more than any other nation (unless you believe china) and have inspired companies to build ventilators, then to develop treatments and vaccines...we have operation warp speed that is speeding up the vaccine process...we will have a vaccine soon and therapeutics soon. We haven't, as a nation, handled this poorly...our medical practitioners have also done a wonderful job saving lives.
https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Re...his-week-in-operation-warp-speed-oct-16-2020/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1028731/covid19-tests-select-countries-worldwide/
 

Rack

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7 hospitalized after Trump Rally in Omaha. Trump left rally at 9PM on Air Force One. However, a lack of buses to move the people led to 1000's being left out in freezing temps for 3+ hours

Personal responsibility is a thing...IF you are elderly and know it's cold you dress for it and make damn sure you have transportation...even with that, IMHO, elderly people shouldn't be out in the cold in the time of covid...however, have we moved so far in the direction of wussification that we/media/lawyers ALWAYS blame someone else every time we/the public makes a poor personal choice. Peoples choices are theirs to own, not the event, nor the person they are going to see, nor the concert band, nor the government. Lability however, can and does, sometimes fall on the event organizer for gross neglect. So when you put on events you also take that risk and need to cover your bases. Still, if I choose to go to a concert, a lake party, a Trump rally, a tractor pull, a rodeo, or on even a simple vacation in a time of covid, especially if I'm elderly or immune compromised...I'm taking a risk upon myself and am at least partly responsible for my decision to go, and that's on me. Bottom line, I Thank God daily that we have the personal freedom to make our own choices...even stupid ones. However, we are moving hard toward a fully enforced nanny / safety Nazi state, and the crazy thing is many in our public are cheering that BS on. When we no longer have personal freedom to travel and to attend events and are forced to be locked in our homes in the name of "safety", it will be time to move.

 
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Binman4OSU

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I can't believe they actually listed it as an accomplishment LOL Trump's Mission Accomplished, ISIS is JV, or Red Line in the Sand moment?? Why do all our Recent POTUS have this exact same type of moment?

 

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It wasn't handled poorly...estimates where 2.2 to 2.5 million American Deaths...any is to many...but the fact is that he haven't handled Covid poorly...we have handled it differently all over the country based on the needs of that community. We have tested more than any other nation (unless you believe china) and have inspired companies to build ventilators, then to develop treatments and vaccines...we have operation warp speed that is speeding up the vaccine process...we will have a vaccine soon and therapeutics soon. We haven't, as a nation, handled this poorly...our medical practitioners have also done a wonderful job saving lives.
https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Re...his-week-in-operation-warp-speed-oct-16-2020/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1028731/covid19-tests-select-countries-worldwide/
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid Cult45ers...it's not a character flaw to admit your leader may have been wrong, nor is it a character flaw for the leader to admit that if done again, they would try to do it differently...in fact, more people would accept and respect this response instead of "it is what it is" and "we've done a phenomenal job"

Politifact: trump - “We saved 2 million people” from dying of COVID-19. = Mostly False
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
  • President Donald Trump keeps saying his efforts to lock down the country and implement restrictions for those traveling from China saved 2 million lives.
  • The number is taken from a model that predicted how many people would die if no mitigation measures were put in place and people continued their lives normally. Experts said it is unlikely that Americans would have taken no steps to protect themselves.
 

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Politifact: trump - “We saved 2 million people” from dying of COVID-19. = Mostly False
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
  • President Donald Trump keeps saying his efforts to lock down the country and implement restrictions for those traveling from China saved 2 million lives.
  • The number is taken from a model that predicted how many people would die if no mitigation measures were put in place and people continued their lives normally. Experts said it is unlikely that Americans would have taken no steps to protect themselves.
The same study put the number at 1.1 million deaths if mitigation steps were taken...everybody seems to forget that part...we're not at the end of this thing yet.
 

Rack

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Keep drinking the Kool-Aid Cult45ers...it's not a character flaw to admit your leader may have been wrong, nor is it a character flaw for the leader to admit that if done again, they would try to do it differently...in fact, more people would accept and respect this response instead of "it is what it is" and "we've done a phenomenal job"

Politifact: trump - “We saved 2 million people” from dying of COVID-19. = Mostly False
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
  • President Donald Trump keeps saying his efforts to lock down the country and implement restrictions for those traveling from China saved 2 million lives.
  • The number is taken from a model that predicted how many people would die if no mitigation measures were put in place and people continued their lives normally. Experts said it is unlikely that Americans would have taken no steps to protect themselves.
Well we did kind of do a good job. But not a great job due to having any deaths from it. IT IS MOSTLY China's fault NOT our governments fault that we even had to deal with it. I don't care if Biden/Obama was POTUS I would say same. Also negativity and fear are VERY POOR ways to run a country...POTUS runs on hope and positivity. Is he an arrogant a-hole? Absolutely, and I'd MUCH rather have the VP as POTUS in a heart beat over the POTUS...but compared to the alternative candidates of Covid/Climate/Race/Riots and gloom and doom socialism and free stuff party he's a bright shining figure on a hill. It's a simple and easy choice and I'm in NO WAY a Cult45er...wouldn't attend a rally when it was in Tulsa, did prayer walk in Greenwood and around the rally for unity and forgiveness...I am afraid to tell anyone who I will vote for except for at church(where nearly everyone agrees) and on this message board(because of anonymity)...won't put a sign near my yard for fear of neighbors and wanting unity rather than strife in my family and at work. So I guess I'm one of the millions of underground supporters who happen to think both candidates are awful but one is less so and at least wants freedom and state run / not federal responses to things like the virus...PLUS for an added bonus the Press absolutely hates him and that actually keeps him from doing too much....This is a MAJOR issue for smaller federal control people like myself. Gridlock is Good...worst thing we can do is elect an effective governance that try's to do to many things Federally that should be left for state and locals.

So, easy choice...and yes the virus could have been FAR FAR worse than it has been so far. I counting on people choosing freedom over fear...at least in this national election...but I honestly will just go on with life either way. It is what it is...a weird and freaking crazy time filled with covid and riots and impeachments and cry babies.
 
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PF5

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I am afraid to tell anyone who I will vote for
I still don't understand why people are afraid, ashamed, scared, etc. to say they are voting for Trump, especially when you are such an adamant supporter of him. People that I am around, especially in this state, give Biden supporters a much harder time than a Trump supporter. I have no problem telling my friends and family I am voting Biden, and the majority of them have no problem telling me they are voting Trump.
 
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I am afraid to tell anyone who I will vote for
I still don't understand why people are afraid, ashamed, scared, etc. to say they are voting for Trump, especially when you are such an adamant supporter of him. People that I am around, especially in this state, give Biden supporters a much harder time than a Trump supporter. I have no problem telling my friends and family I am voting Biden, and the majority of them have no problem telling me they are voting Trump.
#1 rule of MAGA is be the victim.
 

Rack

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#1 rule of MAGA is be the victim.
I’m not a victim...I’m not hiding in my home...come on man...:)

Hope over Hysteria
Rights over Riots
Law over Lawlessness
Freedom over Fear
Facts over Fiction
Low taxes over high taxes
Strength over Weakness

This is easy...I’m surprised everyone doesn’t get it. But if you want to be locked up again in your home like the Germans just did go vote Joe. It is what it is...we are a free country...I want us to remain so. Plus I really want to see the media massive melt down again until they figure out they do NOT represent the people of this nation and that they need to remove the massive biases from their polling.
 
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