VOTE! Election thread

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What will be the results of todays vote?

  • Trump wins big

    Votes: 11 15.3%
  • Trump wins small

    Votes: 12 16.7%
  • No decision by tomorrow morning

    Votes: 27 37.5%
  • Biden wins small

    Votes: 15 20.8%
  • Biden wins big

    Votes: 7 9.7%

  • Total voters
    72
Feb 7, 2007
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https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1318229941071323137?s=21
So in 2017 what exactly would "bribing" Hunter Biden get you? The GOP held the senate, congress, and the White house. Joe Biden held no positions.

Could it be that Hunter was getting paid for legal advice because he was a well connected Yale Lawyer?

$1m seems like a lot but maybe the contract was valued up to that amount spread over several years. I mean that tweet doesn't exactly give ANY evidence and I doubt the guy tweeting it is sharing details on an honest basis. Also it never even mentions if it was signed. It could have just been an offer if it even actually exists.

Also one of my questions. Wouldn't it be illegal to simply start searching through the private emails and documents on somebody else's computer? Surely that violates a service contract.

Also why no DOJ charges? When Trump's people appeared to be breaking the law we saw 8 people get arrested and jailed. This is not getting any traction with law enforcement and I bet there is a good reason for that. (queue up the derp state... deep state)
 
Oct 30, 2007
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The entire laptop-gate seems very odd to me. The Biden camp says that this is fake news & Russian disinformation, but they refuse to deny that the laptop and emails exist. The FBI won't verify whether or not they received the hard drive back in 2019. They won't even tell the Senate whether or not they have the hard drive.

I'm not really a conspiracy theorist, but it feels like a lot of people don't want this story to see the light of day. Why not just verify that it isn't true if it's all fake?
 
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https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1318024722555326465?s=21
HAHA, Fox News didn't accept the story at face value. They let a smaller sibling company run with it so they didn't have to put their "credibility" on the line.

If Fox News wasn't convinced the most rational people wouldn't be either.

Also, even if the story is 100% true I am not convinced there are actual crimes commited. Just some conflicts of interest and light corruption. Or as Trump would call it Monday, Thrusday, Friday Night, next week, First wife, third bankruptcy, SIL's father, Campaign mananger, personal Lawyer, charity ban, etc.

The desperation to make this some big story is something to see. You dug yourself this hole by electing Trump. Enjoy all that dirt that falls on you as you try to throw rocks up the 100 ft deep chasm.
 
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The entire laptop-gate seems very odd to me. The Biden camp says that this is fake news & Russian disinformation, but they refuse to deny that the laptop and emails exist. The FBI won't verify whether or not they received the hard drive back in 2019. They won't even tell the Senate whether or not they have the hard drive.

I'm not really a conspiracy theorist, but it feels like a lot of people don't want this story to see the light of day. Why not just verify that it isn't true if it's all fake?
Maybe cause there is not actually a crime in any of it?
 
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Maybe cause there is not actually a crime in any of it?
So you think that all of this is true, but it doesn't reach the level of criminal activity? That's possible. Lying about meeting with a Burisma official isn't necessarily a crime, but it certainly looks bad considering the circumstances.
 
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So you think that all of this is true, but it doesn't reach the level of criminal activity?
I guess I am going off the emails with Ukraine. There is so much stuff being slung around I don't know which you are specifically speaking of.

No, I don't think Biden firing a prosecutor everyone agreed was corrupt to replace him with a different one everyone agreed was better is illegal. If that somehow got Hunter paid then there would be a conflict of interest but it all happened in Ukraine. US laws wouldn't be involved as long as Joe Biden was acting in the US's interest.

Kind of like Trump funneling PPP money to Kushner and Donald Jr. Except in that case these are US companies so US laws would apply.

Edit: Also know that 99% of elections in the past that conflict with Hunter would probably draw my attention and hold serious weight on my vote. In this case it doesn't really even move the scale.
 
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Sure.

We get it. Look one way and ignore the other. Unfortunately, too many people do that as well.
Right, I mean Biden used campaign funds to pay off a porn star and had his attorney take the fall. Oh, wait that happened and there are people in Jail.

Don't you even hint that these allegations are anywhere near the same as a convicted felon EIGHT TIMES OVER from the Trump 1st 4 years.

So sorry if I don't feel even a bit a shame after you guys ignored literal crimes and convictions and continue to do so. While at the same time I ignore some tweets and no charges from them.
 
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Right, I mean Biden used campaign funds to pay off a porn star and had his attorney take the fall. Oh, wait that happened and there are people in Jail.

Don't you even hint that these allegations are anywhere near the same as a convicted felon EIGHT TIMES OVER from the Trump 1st 4 years.

So sorry if I don't feel even a bit a shame after you guys ignored literal crimes and convictions and continue to do so. While at the same time I ignore some tweets and no charges from them.
“You guys”???

Look it is okay you ignore and are blind to your candidate faux pas and only view the other candidate as having real issues. Many do it. But few own it and admit it as much as you. Hats off.

https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY