Egocentric CNN POS Jim Acosta loses his press pass......finally

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I will ask again for the third time. What is the difference?

You have eyes. Think for yourself. The side by side is posted above. Tell me what is different from the videos?
This altered video claim may be one of the silliest arguments used for distraction I have read about in a long while.
The dude has been working in video editing/production for 30 years. He went through the two clips frame by frame. The clip Sanders tweeted out they froze several frames before Acosta's infant-strength karate chop then sped up the footage to make it seem worse. Yeah, it's hard to tell side by side but to me the fact someone went to the effort says a lot. But then again I also factor in the pattern of lies and deceit that come from this WH like their editing of official transcripts.

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/02/white-house-trump-transcript-reporter-860406

Or the lie about Trump having nothing to do with the hush money payments to porn star and model.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...-stormy-daniels-and-karen-mcdougal-1541786601

Or the lie about not knowing the acting Attorney General he just appointed to try to shut down the Mueller investigation. Those last two are just from today, I could keep going but we all know Trump has little concern for truth and we all know his supporters don't care.
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1060939260612755456
 
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The dude has been working in video editing/production for 30 years. He went through the two clips frame by frame. The clip Sanders tweeted out they froze several frames before Acosta's infant-strength karate chop then sped up the footage to make it seem worse. Yeah, it's hard to tell side by side but to me the fact someone went to the effort says a lot. But then again I also factor in the pattern of lies and deceit that come from this WH like their editing of official transcripts.

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/02/white-house-trump-transcript-reporter-860406

Or the lie about Trump having nothing to do with the hush money payments to porn star and model.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...-stormy-daniels-and-karen-mcdougal-1541786601

Or the lie about not knowing the acting Attorney General he just appointed to try to shut down the Mueller investigation. Those last two are just from today, I could keep going but we all know Trump has little concern for truth and we all know his supporters don't care.
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1060939260612755456
So to attempt to prove your point you
1) admit you can’t tell a difference between the two videos even when side-by-side
2) you ignore other experts saying the video was not doctored except for being zoomed in
3) you don’t trust your own eyes
4) attempt to justify your reasoning by attempting to correlate two mutually exclusive items

Well done. I score you a “10” for mental gymnastics.
 
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The dude has been working in video editing/production for 30 years. He went through the two clips frame by frame. The clip Sanders tweeted out they froze several frames before Acosta's infant-strength karate chop then sped up the footage to make it seem worse. Yeah, it's hard to tell side by side but to me the fact someone went to the effort says a lot. But then again I also factor in the pattern of lies and deceit that come from this WH like their editing of official transcripts.

https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/02/white-house-trump-transcript-reporter-860406

Or the lie about Trump having nothing to do with the hush money payments to porn star and model.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...-stormy-daniels-and-karen-mcdougal-1541786601

Or the lie about not knowing the acting Attorney General he just appointed to try to shut down the Mueller investigation. Those last two are just from today, I could keep going but we all know Trump has little concern for truth and we all know his supporters don't care.
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1060939260612755456

In other words, you got nuthin'.
 

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I guess everyone saw the part where infowars admitted to speeding up the film in question. Which should bring up the question of why the heck the White House would be using infowars film clips??
 

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Don't you think Obama is a narcissist as well?...Maybe he has an uncanny ability to talk 'you' out of believing it? AKA, a narcissist with a high IQ? Which is more dangerous...the narcissist you know is one or the arrogant bastard who can convenience you he isn't?
No.

What did you see Obama do that would meet those criteria? https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1519417-overview

And, there is no "talking out of" narcissism. That isn't how it works.
 

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No.

What did you see Obama do that would meet those criteria? https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1519417-overview

And, there is no "talking out of" narcissism. That isn't how it works.
I think he met nearly all those, but in a more covert way than Trump... My point is that most on the left seem to be blind to it. I could give tons of examples by things that he's said, but why? In fact, I believe many if not most of our recent presidents exhibit narcissistic behaviors. It's about "me" for most of them and they talk about themselves and their contribution all the time. They rarely give credit to the people but take it upon themselves, it's very distasteful. They make assumptions about "who we are" (based on their own vision of what they think we should be) as a people and they brag constantly that they know and are the answers to our problems. They think they are the most special/interesting person in the room wherever they go.

Eloquence doesn't hide arrogance from those who disagree with it in principle. It's the main problem I have with Trump AND Obama and many presidents before them (Clinton was particularity bad). Maybe it's not all classical defined narcissism...but arrogance, greed, and power. It's a defining factor for many driven egotistical type A's as well. IMHO, as our society continues to move away from a Judaeo Christian ethic we will likely see more and more of this behavior out of our leaders.
 
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I think he met nearly all those, but in a more covert way than Trump...nearly exactly. My point is that most on the left seem to be blind to it. I could give tons of examples by things that he's said, but why? In fact, I believe many if not most of our recent presidents exhibit narcissistic behaviors. It's about "me" for most of them and they talk about themselves and their contribution all the time they rarely give credit to the people but take credit upon themselves, it's very distasteful. They make assumptions about "who we are" as a people and they brag constantly that they know and are the answers to our problems. They think they are the most special/interesting person in the room wherever they go.

Eloquence doesn't hide arrogance from those who disagree with it (arrogance) in principle. It's the main problem I have with Trump AND Obama and most Presidents before them (Clinton was particularity bad).
Well, the why is because you are saying something that makes no sense to me. You are saying that someone is a covert narcissist. That is sort of like saying that someone is much too talkative and outgoing but nobody notices because it is hidden by their introversion.

Obviously, someone that has attained the position of president is going to have a sense of self-importance and entitlement that goes along with that position in society. That isn't narcissism as a disorder. But, honestly look at President Trump's activities such as his overwhelming need to defend himself with Twitter, the way he has manipulated people of less power in business dealings, his constant use of "we are going to have THE BEST" healthcare/military/infrastructure etc. His lack of empathy in making fun of the disabled, John McCain etc.

Anyone that goes through the gauntlet to become president certainly is going to have some narcissistic tendencies. You know I was not a fan of President Obama as a president. But, Obama certainly does not appear to me to actually have narcissism. Trump does.
 

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So we moved from “I can’t believe my own eyes” to just making up stuff?
Not trying to make anything up, try looking around a little before you dismiss something. A simple google search brings up quite a few articles about it. The video released by the White House is identical to only one other place and that is infowars.
 
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I think he met nearly all those, but in a more covert way than Trump... My point is that most on the left seem to be blind to it. I could give tons of examples by things that he's said, but why? In fact, I believe many if not most of our recent presidents exhibit narcissistic behaviors. It's about "me" for most of them and they talk about themselves and their contribution all the time. They rarely give credit to the people but take it upon themselves, it's very distasteful. They make assumptions about "who we are" as a people and they brag constantly that they know and are the answers to our problems. They think they are the most special/interesting person in the room wherever they go.

Eloquence doesn't hide arrogance from those who disagree with it in principle. It's the main problem I have with Trump AND Obama and many presidents before them (Clinton was particularity bad). Maybe it's not all classical defined narcissism...but arrogance, greed, and power. It's a defining factor for many driven egotistical type A's as well. IMHO, as our society continues to move away from a Judaeo Christian ethic we will likely see more and more of this behavior out of our leaders.
Of course Barry is a narcissist. Just watch any of his speeches. He says "I" hundreds of times. Trump rarely does. He says "we". Obama thought he was god 'cause he followers treated him like a god. He was the most corrupt president of my lifetime, including LBJ.
 

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Well, the why is because you are saying something that makes no sense to me. You are saying that someone is a covert narcissist. That is sort of like saying that someone is much too talkative and outgoing but nobody notices because it is hidden by their introversion.

Obviously, someone that has attained the position of president is going to have a sense of self-importance and entitlement that goes along with that position in society. That isn't narcissism as a disorder. But, honestly look at President Trump's activities such as his overwhelming need to defend himself with Twitter, the way he has manipulated people of less power in business dealings, his constant use of "we are going to have THE BEST" healthcare/military/infrastructure etc. His lack of empathy in making fun of the disabled, John McCain etc.

Anyone that goes through the gauntlet to become president certainly is going to have some narcissistic tendencies. You know I was not a fan of President Obama as a president. But, Obama certainly does not appear to me to actually have narcissism. Trump does.
It's not just me who thinks this about Obama...as well as Trump and other Presidents.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...t-barack-obama-narcissist-says-ex-aide-steve/



https://www.newsmax.com/jamesagagliano/moynihan-presidency-psychology/2017/07/25/id/803698/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/01/barack-obama-donald-trump-narcissistic-mistakes/
https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/opinion/20170202/letter-narcissism-diagnosis-applies-to-obama
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/opinion/the-narcissist-in-chief.html
https://www.researchgate.net/public...hobiography_of_President_Barack_Hussein_Obama

100's, likely 1,000's, of these articles and papers exist talking about Obama being a narcissist in both negative and positive spinning ways.
 
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Not trying to make anything up, try looking around a little before you dismiss something. A simple google search brings up quite a few articles about it. The video released by the White House is identical to only one other place and that is infowars.
Oh I looked. I also found the satire article that Infowars about the Acosta video being edited, if you read it ..it is obviously satire. And the video when clicked includes Star Wars clips.
But according to you that is InfoWars admitting they doctored the video? Wow. As Yoda might say, Critical thinking is you not.
 

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The Telegraph article is an aide saying that David Cameron, the conservative British PM, thought Obama was a narcissist as a scapegoat for Syria for which Cameron got a lot of heat. Yeah, sure, sounds like an honest assessment.
The National Review (biased against a liberal) was talking about Trump's narcissism and how the narcissistic things Obama did should be a warning.
Metrowest is a letter to the editor so I didn't bother to even read- Are you serious?
The NY Times article is about Trump! Obama is only mentioned to say "No data"

Finally, the last one is a thesis by a grad student. If that isn't laughable enough, he goes on to say that Freud states that everyone has some narcissism and that it can provide positive outcomes. And that Obama doesn't have narcissistic personality disorder but is a humble narcissist. This is basically what I said in my post.

Sure, look to google with its billions of responses and you are going to find things being said about any celebrity. There are 7,300,000 hits for Trump/pedophile. So, does that make Trump a pedophile?

If you are going to link articles, you should at least review them to show that they actually agree with your point, But, you did a great job making mine!