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Pokey

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This vvvvvvvvvvvv is extremely narrow-minded. There's plenty of capable parents out there that can (AND DO) teach a trade.



I agree with @oks10 and many parents today not taking their primary vocation seriously... being a parent and raising well-rounded, young adults that contribute to good of society and their communities.

Your premise that very little to no parents can teach a trade is narrow-minded. There's plenty of parents (farmers, ranchers, butchers, taxidermists, leathersmiths, cobblers, clocksmiths, contractors, etc, etc, etc) that train and hand down family owned trade businesses.

Hell, I could teach pretty much any secondary ed science course with my alternative certification. I'm just not crazy enough to leave a six figure income to teach in public ed.
Odd thing is I've had numerous carpenters send their kids to me for training, credentials, and on the job training. It's time consuming trying to keep up with the latest trends, tools, and techniques when you are in the field working everyday. Most everyone who went to school believes they could successfully teach, and everyone that owns a hammer is a carpenter. Lol
 

Deere Poke

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You are really doggedly corrupt. You imagine that your contributions to society are of more value than persons who intentionally devote their lives to helping kids contribute positively to society. You couldn't hack it in the classroom and felt like a chump for working so cheap. So you've become like an ex- smoker complaining and denegrating anyone who was so ignorant as to continue to smoke or teach in this case. You truly enjoy spreading your peculiar hatred with demeaning comments and ludicrous statements regarding public education as though you honestly believe every public school teacher is politically corrupt and spewing socialism to a captured audience. You are obtuse to the truth and couldn't be further from it. I taught carpentry you idiot! If you believe I spent my time indoctrinating students to anything but the workforce and construction you are retarded. You owe me and every other teacher an apology, but don't expect one, for you in your deluded little mind honestly believe only you are able to discern truth, only you determine others worth, only you can read others hearts and intentions. You arrogant self-indulgent prick, spreader of lies, worshipper of money and power, who knows the price of everything but can't conceive the cost. Congratulations you've got @Deere Poke in your corner painting turd brown paint on public education, but to you I say with a clear conscience: Fuh Q. Now call the monitors snowflake and further limit the forum to one lopside.
Nope college professors have finally put me over the top now that I'm having to deal with their BS. When my kids were in HS the politics were there but not nearly as bad. For you to pretend it doesn't go on or is some kind of rare exception is nothing short of being willingly blind, or like I said participating.
 

Pokey

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Nope college professors have finally put me over the top now that I'm having to deal with their BS. When my kids were in HS the politics were there but not nearly as bad. For you to pretend it doesn't go on or is some kind of rare exception is nothing short of being willingly blind, or like I said participating.
Sorry to disappoint, but I couldn't reliably tell you which party any of our teachers were at Career Tech(vo-tech). Had mainly highschool kids but had a few adults every year. Have been in school in one way or another all my life and never experienced what many of you claim to be the norm. Sure some of us went round and round occasionally in the workroom but never in class. I don't care whether you believe it or not.
 

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I dunno. I did private. Little rich shits made it extremely difficult for us non rich kids had such an impact on me that I didn’t want to be rich. I was afraid me and mine would end up like those families I watched for 14 years. Now, we are blessed. We could’ve done private but I wanted them in public schools. So we moved to a pretty good Texas school district. Yup, there’s indoctrination but it’s equal here. A child can go left or right or they smarten up and stay in the middle lane. It’s been exhausting as we still had to teach them the real world after classes. I think the exposure to the luntaism (my new word) early in life has greatly helped them to question everything and the motives behind those questions. I don’t know how single parents do it because it’s a full time job keeping kids interested in their own lives and in the world they share with others.
Classic case of class envy followed by a confirmation of public educator bias, My early childhood education was facilitated by a dad in college getting his PHD who hauled garbage from 3am to 6:30am five days a week before he went to his full time job. Your envious characterization of kids in private school is pure shit. You're better than that.
 

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Sorry to disappoint, but I couldn't reliably tell you which party any of our teachers were at Career Tech(vo-tech). Had mainly highschool kids but had a few adults every year. Have been in school in one way or another all my life and never experienced what many of you claim to be the norm. Sure some of us went round and round occasionally in the workroom but never in class. I don't care whether you believe it or not.
If you have managed to avoid pushing your politics on students then major kudos to you, I applaud that. However if you really believe that it isn't happening, that means that you really don't or can't see it, which of course means you may be doing it and not even realizing it.
 

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If you have managed to avoid pushing your politics on students then major kudos to you, I applaud that. However if you really believe that it isn't happening, that means that you really don't or can't see it, which of course means you may be doing it and not even realizing it.
Believe what you will. Taught hands on class in two three hour blocks. We built on campus and off campus. 2 year course. Extensive curriculum. Have students working all over the state. Believe it or not. I retired 7 years ago and I'll make no apologies for speaking my mind now.
 
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Believe what you will. Taught hands on class in two three hour blocks. We built on campus and off campus. 2 year course. Extensive curriculum. Have students working all over the state. Believe it or not. I retired 7 years ago and I'll make no apologies for speaking my mind now.
You're being willfully ignorant here if you can't acknowledge that there's maybe just a tad bit of difference in a hands-on CareerTech environment & other classrooms. I spent 3 years at 2 different CareerTechs less than a decade ago, btw. Years before, it was 5 years at OSU. There's a difference, end of story.
 

Pokey

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You're being willfully ignorant here if you can't acknowledge that there's maybe just a tad bit of difference in a hands-on CareerTech environment & other classrooms. I spent 3 years at 2 different CareerTechs less than a decade ago, btw. Years before, it was 5 years at OSU. There's a difference, end of story.
Classic case

It's not me striving to put a square peg in a round hole.
 

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Classic case of class envy followed by a confirmation of public educator bias, My early childhood education was facilitated by a dad in college getting his PHD who hauled garbage from 3am to 6:30am five days a week before he went to his full time job. Your envious characterization of kids in private school is pure shit. You're better than that.
I am now that I see their point of view. It wasn’t envy all the time. Just the part of not being able to afford doing sports or going on the big vacations with friends. The part i wanted nothing to do with was all the divorce and suicides that come with fortunes coming and going and the total devotion to chasing the all mighty dollar. This just wasn’t a private school, it was THE private school. I appreciate the sacrifice my parents went through but to this day I know I had no business being there and the students and administration there made sure I knew it everyday.
As for educator bias, I’m not sure what that is. These teachers were the best. I’m friends with more of those teachers than students today. Even when I was down and out they still got me to learn and I extremely grateful to them for it.
 

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If you have managed to avoid pushing your politics on students then major kudos to you, I applaud that. However if you really believe that it isn't happening, that means that you really don't or can't see it, which of course means you may be doing it and not even realizing it.
Believe what you will. Taught hands on class in two three hour blocks. We built on campus and off campus. 2 year course. Extensive curriculum. Have students working all over the state. Believe it or not. I retired 7 years ago and I'll make no apologies for speaking my mind now.
You don't really seem to be who this was all talking about to begin with. College professors. Then it branched to public education teachers in school districts. Career tech was never mentioned.

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Deere Poke

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Sorry to disappoint, but I couldn't reliably tell you which party any of our teachers were at Career Tech(vo-tech). Had mainly highschool kids but had a few adults every year. Have been in school in one way or another all my life and never experienced what many of you claim to be the norm. Sure some of us went round and round occasionally in the workroom but never in class. I don't care whether you believe it or not.
I'd believe that coming from a tech teacher. My kids have both taken classes at tech while in HS and I never saw the issue there. A career training school would go out of business in a heartbeat if they were pumping politics instead of training kids to do the skill they are there to learn.

College on the other hand has turned into a political cesspool and HS is starting to bend that way. The meaningless biology class my son has to take is a perfect example. WTF does he need biology for a business degree. Therefore what difference does it make how the teacher teaches the class. The teacher has turned it into a class to create environmental activist rather than teach biology.
 

Pokey

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You don't really seem to be who this was all talking about to begin with. College professors. Then it branched to public education teachers in school districts. Career tech was never mentioned.

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Selective reading might also allow a person to ignore attacks on public ed and those who chose to teach. Fact is I'm a democrat in a forum dominated by more than a few rabid republicans and the divisions between us are frequently on clear display. I don't spend a lot of time in hear but fully understand that many are desirous of a constant echo atta boy chamber.
 

Pokey

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I'd believe that coming from a tech teacher. My kids have both taken classes at tech while in HS and I never saw the issue there. A career training school would go out of business in a heartbeat if they were pumping politics instead of training kids to do the skill they are there to learn.

College on the other hand has turned into a political cesspool and HS is starting to bend that way. The meaningless biology class my son has to take is a perfect example. WTF does he need biology for a business degree. Therefore what difference does it make how the teacher teaches the class. The teacher has turned it into a class to create environmental activist rather than teach biology.
Sorry to hear that but have Masters plus 30 and retired with 35 years in classroom and what you all seem to proclaim I've never experienced.
 

wrenhal

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You don't really seem to be who this was all talking about to begin with. College professors. Then it branched to public education teachers in school districts. Career tech was never mentioned.

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Selective reading might also allow a person to ignore attacks on public ed and those who chose to teach. Fact is I'm a democrat in a forum dominated by more than a few rabid republicans and the divisions between us are frequently on clear display. I don't spend a lot of time in hear but fully understand that many are desirous of a constant echo atta boy chamber.
I don't care about it being an echo chamber. I care that even though you were a teacher, you are not what was being talked about. Just look at the crap degrees being made up on college campuses to support stupid ideologies that are useless. Look at the people who teach. In college. Like 90% I believe it was, are liberal. And his biology teacher is a perfect example. Even in the late 80's, early 90's I knew that there were teachers at swosu that you basically let their liberal rants go in one ear and out the other and laugh with everyone on the way out of class. You then read the book and had study groups to actually learn the material for the course. Rather than teaching their courses, they are using their courses to get political anyway they can and force their ideology on the kids. That, had become more important to them than teaching the material. If you can't see it, then you aren't paying attention.

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