Democrats, Media, and more Trump derangement

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Cimarron

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The president responded, “You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people, these are animals, and we’re taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that’s never happened before.”


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And Chuck Schumer's response to Trump?


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But a number of outlets glossed over the MS-13 context, stating that Trump was talking about all illegal immigrants. The New York Times tweeted that Trump “lashed out at undocumented immigrants….calling those trying to breach the country’s borders ‘animals.’” The Associated Press deleted a tweet that made a similar representation of his remarks.

“When all of our great-great-grandparents came to America they weren’t 'animals,' and these people aren’t either,” Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said, while House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said that “we are all God’s children.”



MS-13 is a violent gang known for its gruesome crimes that was started by Central American immigrants in the 1980s.

“Violence is a central tenet of MS-13, as evidenced by its core motto -- 'mata, viola, controla,' translated as, ‘kill, rape, control,’ the DOJ said in a 2016 release.

Figures from Immigration and Customs Enforcement document a surge in arrests related to MS-13 since Trump came into office. In fiscal 2017, there were 796 arrests of MS-13 members, compared with 432 in fiscal 2016 and 322 in fiscal 2015.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ment-dhs-secretary-says-dems-owe-apology.html


Sarah Sanders had to educate the press. Shouldn't they have learned this in college?
 
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Tucker Exposes Guest Who Holds Murderers To Different Standards Based On Race

Mike Brest


9:44 PM 05/17/2018




A Univision News anchor ran smack up against a wall on Fox News Thursday night when he attempted to draw a difference between infamous murderer Charles Manson and the murderous gang MS-13.
Appearing on “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” Enrique Acevedo tried to shame President Donald Trump for using the term “animals” to describe MS-13.
Carlson was having none of it.





When Carlson asked Acevedo if he would be offended by labeling the murderous cult leader Charles Manson an animal, Acevedo responded, “Of course not.”
The Daily Caller co-founder then pointed out that Acevedo only had a problem with the president labeling immigrant criminals as “animals,” but not a white sadist. (RELATED: Sarah Sanders Doubles Down On Trump’s MS-13 ‘Animals’ Comment)
The Univision host later said, “I think it would be a major mistake to defend any criminal.”
Then Carlson’s responded, “But you do. Thank you, great to see you tonight. Even when he admitted that President Trump was talking about MS-13, he couldn’t stop himself from defending MS-13.”

The Fox News host closed the segment out by asking Acevedo if he could “please convince the Democrats to run in defense of MS-13.”
 

Cimarron

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I’m not sure how any sane person doesn’t see MS 13 as animals? Pure evil!

To suggest Trump was wrong on this and appear to be supportive of MS 13 turns most Americans stomachs! How does the left not see that?
 

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I’m not sure how any sane person doesn’t see MS 13 as animals? Pure evil!

To suggest Trump was wrong on this and appear to be supportive of MS 13 turns most Americans stomachs! How does the left not see that?
Would Jesus see them as animals or as flawed humans deserving of his grace?
 
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Would Jesus see them as animals or as flawed humans deserving of his grace?

Animals rarely kill just for killing sake. Serial killers like BTK Manson clan and Ted Bundy for example are worse than animals so calling them animals is being kind. If Jesus forgives them that is his business but I will not.
 

Cimarron

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Ever wonder why the media just outright lies to you?

Recent headlines that were outright lies by mainstream media.

“During Roundtable, Trump Calls Some Unauthorized Immigrants ‘Animals’” (NPR)

“Trump Calls Some Unauthorized Immigrants ‘Animals’ in Rant” (New York Times)

“Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: ‘These aren’t people. These are animals.’” (USA Today)


So what is their motive to lie to the American public about the President of the United States?
 

kaboy42

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Would Jesus see them as animals or as flawed humans deserving of his grace?
Ahhhh the old WWJD argument.


Hey President Trump... we have a volunteer that just graciously volunteered his home and his family’s well-being to host any MS-13 gang member instead of you being a racist bassturd and kicking them off American soil.

God Bless you @Okieleaks! Your sacrifices are incredibly noble and so very Christ-like. :derp::derp::derp:
 

cowboyethics344

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I’m not sure how any sane person doesn’t see MS 13 as animals? Pure evil!

To suggest Trump was wrong on this and appear to be supportive of MS 13 turns most Americans stomachs! How does the left not see that?
I wouldn’t put it past any democrat to support MS 13. They are in support of massive genocide through their abortion campaigns. The left is full of evil animals.
 

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Ahhhh the old WWJD argument.


Hey President Trump... we have a volunteer that just graciously volunteered his home and his family’s well-being to host any MS-13 gang member instead of you being a racist bassturd and kicking them off American soil.

God Bless you @Okieleaks! Your sacrifices are incredibly noble and so very Christ-like. :derp::derp::derp:
 

kaboy42

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I love your sense of humor and your wit. But I’d really love to see you (and the “millions” of ILLEGAL immigrant supporters) put your “money where your mouth is.”

I’m a Christian. I truly do challenge myself to be a gracious person every day. But I’m also not a blithering idiot.

The left states that one life lost to gun violence is one too many... but an American life lost to a violent ILLEGAL immigrant (MS-13 member) is, or should be, “forgivable”?

Seriously, I’d love to see a grass roots movement of ILLEGAL immigrant supporters that opened their doors, used their family homes, housed/fed/supported ILLEGAL immigrants coming across the borders.
 

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I love your sense of humor and your wit. But I’d really love to see you (and the “millions” of ILLEGAL immigrant supporters) put your “money where your mouth is.”

I’m a Christian. I truly do challenge myself to be a gracious person every day. But I’m also not a blithering idiot.

The left states that one life lost to gun violence is one too many... but an American life lost to a violent ILLEGAL immigrant (MS-13 member) is, or should be, “forgivable”?

Seriously, I’d love to see a grass roots movement of ILLEGAL immigrant supporters that opened their doors, used their family homes, housed/fed/supported ILLEGAL immigrants coming across the borders.
The left doesn’t care how illegal immigrants destroy our society through increase healthcare cost, increases crime rate and taxes being unpaid.

The left cares about guns but doesn’t care about abortion or MS13.

The hypocrisy of the left is hilarious and they have no retort for the facts.
 

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Nobody should be surprised by this. Taking a part of what a politician says and twisting it to mean something completely different is a tactic that is and has been used by both sides for a long time. But I've never seen it used to this extent by the mainstream media before. The crazy thing is that they can be this blatant about it and still have so many people defending them. :confused:
 

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Ahhhh the old WWJD argument.


Hey President Trump... we have a volunteer that just graciously volunteered his home and his family’s well-being to host any MS-13 gang member instead of you being a racist bassturd and kicking them off American soil.

God Bless you @Okieleaks! Your sacrifices are incredibly noble and so very Christ-like. :derp::derp::derp:
No one "deserves" Jesus' grace. None. That's what makes it grace.
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Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
 

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Dan Gainor: Terrorists, gang-bangers and porn star get good media coverage -- Proof of journalism's decline

By Dan Gainor| Fox News
The American media gave sympathetic coverage this past week to the terrorist group Hamas, the gang bangers of MS-13 and a porn star – while continuing relentless attacks on the president of the United States.

And you thought “journalism” couldn’t get any worse.

The week began with another signature achievement for President Trump – the opening of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Relocating the embassy from Tel Aviv was a promise that dated back to the 1992 presidential campaign of Bill Clinton.

Clinton went on to ignore the promise, as did both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama after him, despite a 1995 law that required the embassy move unless it endangered U.S. national security.
Candidate Trump promised to move the embassy and has now done what he promised.
Hamas organized weeks of riots at the border fence separating Israel and Gaza to mark the 70th anniversary of the creation of Israel – an event the Palestinians call Al Nakba (the Catastrophe) – and coinciding with the embassy opening.

First daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner – both advisers to the president – attended the opening. The media made huge sport out of a photo of Ivanka Trump smiling at the celebration of the embassy opening.
Then an interesting thing happened. Hamas admitted that 50 of the 62 people who were killed were members of its terrorist organization.​
The New York Daily News ran with a cover photo of Ivanka Trump and an inset photo of Palestinians carrying off a wounded rioter in Gaza many miles away. It featured the headline: “DADDY'S LITTLE GHOUL." Daily News Editor-in-Chief Jim Rich used to be the HuffPost executive editor. So that level of professionalism shouldn’t surprise people.
Sixty-two Palestinians were reportedly killed in Gaza in the past week and media outlets rushed to slam Israel, which was defending its border fence against rioters and terrorists trying to breach the defensive barrier. Some admitted in interviews that they wanted to launch attacks inside Israel.
“With 60 Killed In Gaza, U.N. Rights Commissioner Criticizes Israel,” NPR reported. “Today” co-host Hoda Kotb blamed the new embassy opening for the violence. “The opening of the new U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem fueling outrage, with more protests planned today,” she alleged. Because somehow Palestinian violence is a new thing.

CBS News correspondent Holly Williams reported on “CBS This Morning” that Palestinians were “furious after the U.S. Embassy was moved to Jerusalem,” as if they had not been rioting for weeks.
ABC’s “World News Tonight” Chief Foreign Correspondent Terry Moran linked the two events. He noted that, as Ivanka Trump and her husband left, “they also left behind this: More clashes throughout Gaza and the West Bank.”

Moran went on to repeat what is now considered a wildly questionable claim, that a Palestinian baby had been killed by tear gas. (Who brings their baby to a violent riot?) “A baby suffocated by tear gas laid to rest. They draped their flag on the little body,” he reported. The Washington Post went through several edits on its online story, gradually downplaying the certainty of how the baby died.

Then an interesting thing happened. Hamas admitted that 50 of the 62 people who were killed were members of its terrorist organization. The Times of Israel also added that “the Iran-backed Palestinian Islamic Jihad had said on Tuesday that three members of its Saraya al-Quds military wing were killed by Israeli forces in Khan Younis.” That means 85 percent of those killed belonged to terrorist groups.

That was too much truth. ABC, CBS and NBC dropped the story like a hot potato. The Washington Post ran a front-page story the next day that seemed entirely ignorant of the news. Instead, it blamed Israel “for its alleged use of excessive force” and added that Israel “is facing questions about why protests by mostly unarmed Palestinians ended in horrific bloodshed.”
No wonder when President Trump tweeted out about his poll numbers this week, he said:“Much of the Media may be corrupt, but the People truly get it!”

2. Media Outright Lie About Trump MS-13 Comment: There’s media bias and then there’s how the media handled the president’s comment about the violent gang MS-13. They just made it up and bombarded the public with a lie.
The president was asked a question about MS-13 and he responded with appropriate tough talk: “You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are. These aren’t people. These are animals.”
White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended the president with a great putdown: “if the media and liberals want to defend MS-13, they're more than welcome to.”​
The news media went nuts. Outlet after outlet misreported the story. It was like ABC’s Brian Ross had suddenly become a global news editor. The Associated Press, the New York Times‏, the New York Daily News, the networks and many other news organizations joined in – all pretending President Trump had bashed immigrants, not gangs.
The Times tweeted: “Trump lashed out at undocumented immigrants during a White House meeting, calling those trying to breach the country’s borders ‘animals.’”
The Daily News went with a bizarre version of the story, making it about all immigrants, not just illegals. “Trump Hurls Hate at Immigrants,” it said.
Snopes, the supposed fact-checkers, got it wrong, too. It claimed, “Trump referred to some people who cross the border illegally as ‘animals.’” That’s only true if you admit those “some” are murderous gang members.
A parade of media lefties rose to attack Trump for the comment. CNBC Editor-at-Large John Harwood defended the humanity of MS-13 members. “However repugnant their actions, MS-13 gang members are human beings IMHO.”
Over at CNN, Contributor Ana Navarro compared Trump to “Nazis” and “slave owners,” saying “he doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt.” “I’m a lot more concerned of why he does things like call immigrants animals – when we start dehumanizing people.”
MSNBC’s Chris Hayes claimed: “This MS-13 nonsense has precisely the same structure as the racist drug war rhetoric of the crack years.”
Even Planned Parenthood got into the act, tweeting: “Immigrants are people. They are our neighbors, our friends, and members of the Planned Parenthood family.” Is MS-13 part of the Planned Parenthood family? I wouldn’t be surprised.
Then came the fallout. AP admitted it had been wrong and deleted its initial tweet “because it wasn’t made clear that he was speaking after a comment about gang members.”
CNN anchor Jake Tapper helped out and‏ gave “context” to the president’s remarks, noting accurately that they “came as a sheriff was complaining about restrictions placed on ICE databases, and MS-13 gang members.”
And, ironically, New York Times White House Reporter Julie Davis got the story right and her employer even tweeted that out with the same account. “Trump invokes fear of dangerous criminals clamoring to breach the border at WH immigration roundtable today; saying, ‘These aren’t people, these are animals.’”
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders defended the president with a great putdown: “If the media and liberals want to defend MS-13, they're more than welcome to.”

3. Porn-Friendly TV: The play “Avenue Q” has a song exclaiming “the Internet is for porn.” That was before Stormy Daniels and her lawyer hit the scene. The Internet has been replaced by TV news.
Forget the has-been porn star and focus on her TV star lawyer Michael Avenatti. He’s been on broadcast and cable news 147 times in just 10 weeks – all to bash President Trump. That’s the only reason he gets any air time. He actually appeared seven times on one single day.
Thank CNN for most of this travesty – 74 of the appearances. That isn’t too surprising, since he’s been partying with CNN anchor Don Lemon and others out at Sag Harbor. The wife of CNN Political Commentator Errol Louis tweeted about it and then deleted it. She even made her Twitter account private. Too late.
When Avenatti wasn’t partying with the media, he was threatening to sue them. Two different publications felt his legal wrath. Avenatti also had a dustup with the Hollywood Reporter and allegedly called a reporter there an obscene name. He’s also being investigated by the State Bar of California for allegedly unpaid taxes.

If it sounds like a TV show plot, others might agree. Mediaite reported: “A ‘Crossfire-style’ television show for 2018 is being pitched to CNN and MSNBC, starring none other than Anthony Scaramucci and Michael Avenatti.”

Avenatti responded to reports of getting a TV show with a tweet, saying: “Lol. I have no interest in television right now.”
 
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By gleefully joining in on the 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' the media is doing more harm to their own cause than good.
All they have to do is exactly what they are supposed to do and they would be able to disarm much of what fuels Trump and his base.

"Fake News" couldn't have ever become what it is if it was completely one-sided and made up by Trump. It seems like every week there are countless stories printed and on tv that are complete rushes just to get something Trump related out there before normal journalistic standards are applied. It's that frequency of corrections that fuels distrust of even real news. Yet, the media just keeps falling in the same trap over and over because they want a gotcha story. There are always a thousand excuses as to why, instead of correcting the issue. It always turns out to be Trump's fault why they completely messed up instead of owning up to it. Repeat the cycle every new story.

They talk of Trump's 'War on the media,' but instead of being on the up and up with journalistic standards covering him they just went, Ok, well, we'll go to war with you! It's a self fulfilling prophecy. He attacks them, so they attack him, so he attacks back and they cry war