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Binman4OSU

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and at the worst possible time for the 2nd wave to hit. With cold, Flu, pneumonia season. This is why we see many experts, including the CDC saying this Winter could be horrible
Not to mention how many people are dying from delaying treatments, waiting for transplants, afraid of going to the doctor, suicide, etc..
 

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Since they did things right and we did EVERYTHING wrong, what does this tell us? Is Europe become so relaxed that the virus is spreading out of control or is there something to the approach to stay open, take as many precautions as possible and weather the storm?
In the last few months there are have been massive protest in several different European countries demanding relaxing of the COVID restrictions. Many EU countries complied and begin to roll back restrictions such as opening bars, restaurants, etc etc
 

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https://twitter.com/MikeDelMoro/status/1318623378102718465
Since you posted this, please explain how the quoted tweet comes up with the 400000 deaths from Covid. I and other people must be understanding the data wrong if what he says is true. The numbers he is adding to the Covid death count are just "excess deaths" compared to previous years not excess Covid deaths to add to the number the CDC is claiming.
 
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Since they did things right and we did EVERYTHING wrong, what does this tell us? Is Europe become so relaxed that the virus is spreading out of control or is there something to the approach to stay open, take as many precautions as possible and weather the storm?
This is just weeks after the WHO says not to use lockdowns as a tool.
 

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Since you posted this, please explain how the quoted tweet comes up with the 400000 deaths from Covid. I and other people must be understanding the data wrong if what he says is true. The numbers he is adding to the Covid death count are just "excess deaths" compared to previous years not excess Covid deaths to add to the number the CDC is claiming.
https://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1318619136386355202
 

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I have read it. Have you?

Still waiting on your explanation on how this report adds 200000 deaths to Covid.

Summary
What is already known about this topic?

As of October 15, 216,025 deaths from COVID-19 have been reported in the United States; however, this might underestimate the total impact of the pandemic on mortality.

What is added by this report?

Overall, an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020, with 198,081 (66%) excess deaths attributed to COVID-19.
 
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Has any one on this board actually had Covid-19 before (I'm not reading 700 pages lol)? I'm currently recovering, and to be honest it has not been anywhere near as severe as the media has portrayed. I understand people react differently, but for me it felt like little more than a sinus infection. Based on my experience, continuing or reinstituting shut-downs is pretty difficult to stomach.
 

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I have read it. Have you?

Still waiting on your explanation on how this report adds 200000 deaths to Covid.
No one said it added 200,000 new deaths. The report says there may be 200,000 more deaths and the report suggest these may be attributed to COVID


From January 26, 2020, through October 3, 2020, an estimated 299,028 more persons than expected have died in the United States.** Excess deaths reached their highest points to date during the weeks ending April 11 (40.4% excess) and August 8, 2020 (23.5% excess) (Figure 1). Two thirds of excess deaths during the analysis period (66.2%; 198,081) were attributed to COVID-19 and the remaining third to other causes†† (Figure 1).

Based on NVSS data, excess deaths have occurred every week in the United States since March 2020. An estimated 299,028 more persons than expected have died since January 26, 2020; approximately two thirds of these deaths were attributed to COVID-19. A recent analysis of excess deaths from March through July reported very similar findings, but that study did not include more recent data through September (5).

estimates of excess deaths attributed to COVID-19 might underestimate the actual number directly attributable to COVID-19, because deaths from other causes might represent misclassified COVID-19–related deaths or deaths indirectly caused by the pandemic. Specifically, deaths from circulatory diseases, Alzheimer disease and dementia, and respiratory diseases have increased in 2020 relative to past years (7), and it is unclear to what extent these represent misclassified COVID-19 deaths or deaths indirectly related to the pandemic (e.g., because of disruptions in health care access or utilization).
 

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No one said it added 200,000 new deaths. The report says there may be 200,000 more deaths and the report suggest these may be attributed to COVID


From January 26, 2020, through October 3, 2020, an estimated 299,028 more persons than expected have died in the United States.** Excess deaths reached their highest points to date during the weeks ending April 11 (40.4% excess) and August 8, 2020 (23.5% excess) (Figure 1). Two thirds of excess deaths during the analysis period (66.2%; 198,081) were attributed to COVID-19 and the remaining third to other causes†† (Figure 1).

Based on NVSS data, excess deaths have occurred every week in the United States since March 2020. An estimated 299,028 more persons than expected have died since January 26, 2020; approximately two thirds of these deaths were attributed to COVID-19. A recent analysis of excess deaths from March through July reported very similar findings, but that study did not include more recent data through September (5).

estimates of excess deaths attributed to COVID-19 might underestimate the actual number directly attributable to COVID-19, because deaths from other causes might represent misclassified COVID-19–related deaths or deaths indirectly caused by the pandemic. Specifically, deaths from circulatory diseases, Alzheimer disease and dementia, and respiratory diseases have increased in 2020 relative to past years (7), and it is unclear to what extent these represent misclassified COVID-19 deaths or deaths indirectly related to the pandemic (e.g., because of disruptions in health care access or utilization).
You have quoted a tweet from the Washington Post guy several times saying the current total of Covid deaths could actually be near 400,000 based on this report. The report doesn't say this. Do you read the tweets you post?
 
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