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RutherfordFan

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Birry, Chuba is coming back. Book it man!!

Chuba is late 3rd to mid 4th round guy this year. Now I think he could move up to early 3rd round if he runs well at combine but with deep RB class...It actually is smart to come back and move up to early 2nd round and get more money and show NFL guys more film. They wanna see it another year first. Quit ripping on people when you don't know what you are talking about.

Also most RBs have way more tread coming out that Chuba has so far. Chuba is in good shape carry wise in his career since he redshirted and then didn't start much or carry it much in 2018.
 

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My question is how does he improve upon last season in the eyes of scouts? Winning a heisman or other various awards doesnt necessarily make a player appealing. Say he comes back and and runs for 2k yards again, how does that make him more appealing than he is right now? From his perspective at least, just trying to see how or what else he has to prove to scouts. With such an incredible season behind him it'll be nearly impossible to be better than that and would be more likely to have less yards. I guess he could improve blocking and get a little bigger but he could do all that and still be ready for the 2020 nfl season. I guess my bottom line question is, if he's not a 1st rounder now after being the best rb in the country, what can possibly be done to make that difference? I suppose with the paydays based on draft position, even moving up a few spots would be worth lots of money
 
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Versatility. He's proven he can rack up a ton of yards but I would imagine NFL scouts need to see more out of him in the passing game, blocking, etc. An NFL back has to do a lot more than just run with the football.
 
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My question is how does he improve upon last season in the eyes of scouts? Winning a heisman or other various awards doesnt necessarily make a player appealing. Say he comes back and and runs for 2k yards again, how does that make him more appealing than he is right now? From his perspective at least, just trying to see how or what else he has to prove to scouts. With such an incredible season behind him it'll be nearly impossible to be better than that and would be more likely to have less yards. I guess he could improve blocking and get a little bigger but he could do all that and still be ready for the 2020 nfl season. I guess my bottom line question is, if he's not a 1st rounder now after being the best rb in the country, what can possibly be done to make that difference? I suppose with the paydays based on draft position, even moving up a few spots would be worth lots of money
Well, Big12 thought he was the best Rb (as judged by his POY award) but the rest of the football world... not so much. No Doake Walker, Heisman, etc. Rated #5 RB in this draft....

So guess he does need to do “something” to prove he’s 1st-2nd round talent. “Something” might just be one more strong year. And a bonus if vs a weaker draft class
 
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My question is how does he improve upon last season in the eyes of scouts? Winning a heisman or other various awards doesnt necessarily make a player appealing. Say he comes back and and runs for 2k yards again, how does that make him more appealing than he is right now? From his perspective at least, just trying to see how or what else he has to prove to scouts. With such an incredible season behind him it'll be nearly impossible to be better than that and would be more likely to have less yards. I guess he could improve blocking and get a little bigger but he could do all that and still be ready for the 2020 nfl season. I guess my bottom line question is, if he's not a 1st rounder now after being the best rb in the country, what can possibly be done to make that difference? I suppose with the paydays based on draft position, even moving up a few spots would be worth lots of money
Well IMO if he ran for 2K or close to it, it would prove he’s consistent.


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Well IMO if he ran for 2K or close to it, it would prove he’s consistent.


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Proving that he's consistent is not worth the extra 300+ carries he will get IMO. But.......I kinda think it will be a wash either way.
If he goes this year, he will be ranked somewhere between 5-7 at his position, and will get drafted in the 4th round or later. Not a great rookie contract, but at least he will get a chance at the NFL and prove himself on the field, probably while receiving great coaching and limited touches. Win-win for him. If he's good enough, he'll force his way into a lineup (re: Chris Carson).
If he goes next year, he *might* be ranked higher at the position, but not by much. There's no way he will keep up the pace he did this last season of nearly 330 carries and over 2k yards. If anything, it will be due to our QB playing better and a new OC. I could see him "regressing" in terms of stats, and teams then wondering if he's consistent now that he's had a dropoff - maybe even putting him back in the 5-7 range at his position and now with another 200+ carries on his body.
 
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If the team performs better next year with a better record and he has a decent season he will go higher. Let's not forget in college football it's a popularity contest for awards, bowls, draft, ect.
 

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If the team performs better next year with a better record and he has a decent season he will go higher. Let's not forget in college football it's a popularity contest for awards, bowls, draft, ect.
Its not just about "going higher", its about getting into the 1st or 2nd rounds. Looking at the last few years, it appears that only about 3-4 guys will get drafted in those first two rounds, so things would have to really fall into place with that draft class for him to get that high. After that, there's a substantial dropoff in salaries, so moving up from 4th to 3rd rounds is insignificant. There's a lot of economics at play, and risk factors. I just don't see the risk being worth the slim chance that he moves up enough to make a large financial difference for his career.

Here's an article for 2016 for reference.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-draft-contract-values-2017-4
 
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Chuba should have left the team after the Oregon State game, the QB’s @ Clemson and LSU should skip the Championship game, all the five star recruits should forgo college football get personal trainers and insurance policies, no travel by air or auto without police escort. play it save young men.
 
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If you were an NFL scout, would you go with a player who racked up a ton of yards in one season or one who proved to he could produce at an elite level for multiple seasons (e.g. Jonathan Taylor).

I'm not knocking Chuba. If he wants to go for the money I completely understand and wish him the best. I'm just saying I can see why there would be some healthy skepticism about him being a one-hit wonder.

I can't think of another RB that was drafted in the first three rounds after just one full college season.
 
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If you were an NFL scout, would you go with a player who racked up a ton of yards in one season or one who proved to he could produce at an elite level for multiple seasons (e.g. Jonathan Taylor).

I'm not knocking Chuba. If he wants to go for the money I completely understand and wish him the best. I'm just saying I can see why there would be some healthy skepticism about him being a one-hit wonder.

I can't think of another RB that was drafted in the first three rounds after just one full college season.
Depending on how you define it, that Derrick Henry guy everyone keeps citing got over 300 carries his junior season and less than 200 the year before. Thus, only one season as the feature back. Drafted in the second round. Mark Ingram essentially got drafted off of his true sophomore season (he was limited due to injuries his junior year). Both guys went after their third year on campus. Josh Jacobs, the only first round RB last year also only played one full season. It's extremely common, especially since your elite backs are often on campus for only three years and then go early to the draft.
 

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Well, Big12 thought he was the best Rb (as judged by his POY award) but the rest of the football world... not so much. No Doake Walker, Heisman, etc. Rated #5 RB in this draft....

So guess he does need to do “something” to prove he’s 1st-2nd round talent. “Something” might just be one more strong year. And a bonus if vs a weaker draft class
Indeed but awards only matter in college and to college people Nfl people dont care about any of that when they evaluate a prospect because awards dont win you games. I see it like this, if he's run for 2000 yards and still isnt a top 5 back, i dont know if another 2000 yards changes anything. It's another year to have fun in college I suppose but I dont see any reason a highly draftable player needs to come unless he stands to move up in the draft order and make big money. especially at rb, it's already unheralded as it is in the nfl anymore. He stands to lose draft stock if he doesnt produce like he did in 2019, that's a risk. But it could work
 
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Indeed but awards only matter in college and to college people Nfl people dont care about any of that when they evaluate a prospect because awards dont win you games. I see it like this, if he's run for 2000 yards and still isnt a top 5 back, i dont know if another 2000 yards changes anything. It's another year to have fun in college I suppose but I dont see any reason a highly draftable player needs to come unless he stands to move up in the draft order and make big money. especially at rb, it's already unheralded as it is in the nfl anymore. He stands to lose draft stock if he doesnt produce like he did in 2019, that's a risk. But it could work
Be honest, did you think Rodney Anderson should of left OU after that amazing Rose Bowl performance? I truly thought he would go pro. Everyone said “he only had one good year” and I stand by what I said then, that’s not a bad thing. Next year he goes down in one of OU’s first games with a knee injury.
 

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Be honest, did you think Rodney Anderson should of left OU after that amazing Rose Bowl performance? I truly thought he would go pro. Everyone said “he only had one good year” and I stand by what I said then, that’s not a bad thing. Next year he goes down in one of OU’s first games with a knee injury.
I thought he had a high draft potential after that game but also thought with his injury history nfl teams would like to see him go a whole season healthy. He could have raised his draft profile with a 1500 yard type season which he was really capable of. Especially at skill positions once you get to the point where you area 1st or 2nd day pick you are ready to go unless you can improve your draft stock. But the risk of injury is high so you have to weigh that, that's why so many do leave early even if they could have had a better season.
 
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Depending on how you define it, that Derrick Henry guy everyone keeps citing got over 300 carries his junior season and less than 200 the year before. Thus, only one season as the feature back. Drafted in the second round. Mark Ingram essentially got drafted off of his true sophomore season (he was limited due to injuries his junior year). Both guys went after their third year on campus. Josh Jacobs, the only first round RB last year also only played one full season. It's extremely common, especially since your elite backs are often on campus for only three years and then go early to the draft.
Good comparisons. If Chuba is comfortable with Day 2 money then he should go for it as long as he's a lock for Day 2. There's no guarantee that another college season will move him up to Day 1 status. Unless he wins a Heisman, of course!